Kenevo SL Official 2022 Kenevo SL (KSL) Megathread!

[AdmChr]

interesting that we are getting polar opposite results. I'm running tubeless, but hard to say how much difference this will make. I've been running 24/24 PSI - frt/rear. I've run Maxxis for years and the Butchers seem to grab better, but I've only run Maxxis on analog bikes.

I did set them up tubeless before my ride today and while they did seem to feel better, I was showing a new rider a local trail system (and it was his first singletrack ride). So needless to say there were no sending jumps or smashing berms, we were going at a snail's pace lol. But he had a great ride. I haven't pulled them off yet, so I give them a few more proper rides.

For the data bits: Rowdy riding style, I'm 275 lbs and run normally 23F/26R but had 24F/28R in these when I had the tubes in since I was worried about pinch flats, not a huge difference.

 

[KSL]

I think until components become lighter it will be impossible to drop the weight for a proper enduro bike, the frame weighs the same as the motor. Battery tech will remain the same but with more juice, motor tech will just add more power for the same weight. I think 18kg to 19kg is perfect weight for an ebike.

 

[CjP]

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[bepcav82]

Push 11.6 imminent!
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what model of coil shox is it?

 

[#lazy]

It’s still a 2021 bike ! I was born in 1973 but don’t like odd numbers so I’m a 1974 model !
Get over it ??

 

[Stevejdw]

Doesn't the Rockshox fit if you get the reservoir swapped to the smaller one? DVO Jade X fits too.
Push 11.6 coming.

EXT Storia V3 fits with 2mm of clearance

 

[bepcav82]

EXT Storia V3 fits with 2mm of clearance

I’m waiting for ext e-storia ?

 

[Garry73]

Hi, I've recently purchased a KSL S-Works and will be taking it to the Cairngorms in a couple of weeks. I'm wandering what people are getting range wise with the extender? I'm going to be riding some big days 55km with 1200+ meters of climbing, as I've not fully tested the range yet I'm wondering if I should carry a 2nd extender in my backpack?

I have swapped the standard tyres to Schwalbe Magic Mary 2.6 Super Trail front and Big Betty 2.4 Super Gravity rear, both with cushcore inserts

 

[CjP]

Hi, I've recently purchased a KSL S-Works and will be taking it to the Cairngorms in a couple of weeks. I'm wandering what people are getting range wise with the extender? I'm going to be riding some big days 55km with 1200+ meters of climbing, as I've not fully tested the range yet I'm wondering if I should carry a 2nd extender in my backpack?

I have swapped the standard tyres to Schwalbe Magic Mary 2.6 Super Trail front and Big Betty 2.4 Super Gravity rear, both with cushcore inserts

You wont need the second range extender. The battery consumption with one extender is comparable to a Levo/Kenevo 700 w/h battery. The other day I got 67km/1100 elevation, bike weighs 20kg and I weigh 85kg.
If your turbo only and lazy cadence, maybe take the second extender so you don’t get any range anxiety.

 

[Garry73]

You wont need the second range extender. The battery consumption with one extender is comparable to a Levo/Kenevo 700 w/h battery. The other day I got 67km/1100 elevation, bike weighs 20kg and I weigh 85kg.
If your turbo only and lazy cadence, maybe take the second extender so you don’t get any range anxiety.

Thanks, seems that we are the same weights. No happy to peddle as my other bike is a Santa Cruz Nomad, just needed the KSL for longer days out. I normal ride in Eco / Trail with the occasional turbo on steep hills, my tune is set to Eco 15/35, Trail 35/70, Turbo 70/100.

 

[CjP]

Thanks, seems that we are the same weights. No happy to peddle as my other bike is a Santa Cruz Nomad, just needed the KSL for longer days out. I normal ride in Eco / Trail with the occasional turbo on steep hills, my tune is set to Eco 15/35, Trail 35/70, Turbo 70/100.

Yeah in that case you will barely need an extender at all.
I have gotten 35km/1100 elevation with 9% battery(main only) remaining on just turbo. There were 2 or 3 nasty climbs in that one.
My settings are factory
35/35
60/60
100/100

I have yet to find a ride I need the second extender. My legs, ass and back are usually done before then.

 

[jcmonty]

EXT Storia V3 fits with 2mm of clearance

Nice - any pics? I am debating converting mine to fit the KSL. It would run $450 for the swap.. or I sell it and buy a new one.

 

[jcmonty]

I’m looking at building one up, hoping someone can give me some of their experiences on sizing.
I’’m 189cm/6’2”, 87kg, currently on a 2020 Enduro S4 and Levo SL XL (Mullet, cascade link, 170mm fork). Looking for something more stable than my Levo SL.
Torn between S4 and S5. My riding is mainly fast-ish technical downhill, my thinking was since this is an e-mtb, I could size up without too much penalty. Just checked out the geo charts, the wheelbase of the S4 KSL is longer than that of the Enduro.

Has anyone my size and style had this same dilemma and were they happy/unhappy with their decision?

I am 6"1 and coming from an XL Levo SL. I am on the S4 KSL and find it fits well to a tad long in some of the geo modes. It's a big bike. Personally, unless you are intent on smashing DH laps only on the bike, it's so stable that you may be fine on the S4 if you like your S4 Enduro

 

[Lightme]

I am 6"1 and coming from an XL Levo SL. I am on the S4 KSL and find it fits well to a tad long in some of the geo modes. It's a big bike. Personally, unless you are intent on smashing DH laps only on the bike, it's so stable that you may be fine on the S4 if you like your S4 Enduro

Thanks mate! That’s a big help.

 

[AdmChr]

So I've got to ask, is anyone else on the preorder list for the EXT e-STORIA?

I'll admit, I'm a huge fan of AVALANCHE and worked with him a lot over the years (very stoked with the AVA-Bomber CR on my Gen2 Kenevo) but I'm anxious to see what EXT does for me and my riding style. This Fox X2 has to go, not going to work for me at all.

 

[bepcav82]

So I've got to ask, is anyone else on the preorder list for the EXT e-STORIA?

I'll admit, I'm a huge fan of AVALANCHE and worked with him a lot over the years (very stoked with the AVA-Bomber CR on my Gen2 Kenevo) but I'm anxious to see what EXT does for me and my riding style. This Fox X2 has to go, not going to work for me at all.

I had EXT on my previous bike, simply the top for me...
Now I am waiting for the KSL and I have ordered EXT e-storia, the new model optimized for e-bikes.
I'll let you know how it goes. But I'm sure it works perfectly.
In the attached photo I made a photo montage with ext e-storia mounted... the look is good

 

[Dave_B]

what is the max insertion depth on the S3 seat tube? I have an AXS 170mm dropper and I'm wondering if it will slam all the way down?

 

[AdmChr]

what is the max insertion depth on the S3 seat tube? I have an AXS 170mm dropper and I'm wondering if it will slam all the way down?

It will not. I haven't measured, but I'm guessing it's about 190mm max insertion depth. My AXS 150mm fully inserted still has about 35mm to the collar. You'll have at least 55mm before the collar.

 

[CjP]

what is the max insertion depth on the S3 seat tube? I have an AXS 170mm dropper and I'm wondering if it will slam all the way down?

It will not. I haven't measured, but I'm guessing it's about 190mm max insertion depth. My AXS 150mm fully inserted still has about 35mm to the collar. You'll have at least 55mm before the collar.

Spot on 58mm to the collar and I’ve lifted the post up a tad from touching the seat tube. At 5’10 it juuuuuust works for me. On climbs I have it fully extended. Cruising about 10mm down.

 

[Dave_B]

thanks, with 170mm post, does the saddle feel completely out of the way when dropped?

 

[CjP]

thanks, with 170mm post, does the saddle feel completely out of the way when dropped?

I wouldn’t say completely but at the same time I haven’t snagged on it yet. Still ample room to move around the bike on DH.

 

[Dave_B]

Has anyone mulleted the Kenevo SL?

 

[KSL]

Has anyone mulleted the Kenevo SL?

 

[Lightme]

I had EXT on my previous bike, simply the top for me...
Now I am waiting for the KSL and I have ordered EXT e-storia, the new model optimized for e-bikes.
I'll let you know how it goes. But I'm sure it works perfectly.
In the attached photo I made a photo montage with ext e-storia mounted... the look is good

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The Storia is a great shock, I have one on my Enduro. I’d say you really don’t need the eStoria. There’s no yoke etc to compound the forces through the shaft as in the Levo. Storia would be more than fine, shaft is 14mm diameter, quite a bit more than any of the competition I’ve seen.

 

[AdmChr]

The Storia is a great shock, I have one on my Enduro. I’d say you really don’t need the eStoria. There’s no yoke etc to compound the forces through the shaft as in the Levo. Storia would be more than fine, shaft is 14mm diameter, quite a bit more than any of the competition I’ve seen.

I'm 275lbs of 100% pure beefcake that gets rowdy... there will be some forces alright, and I'll take all the help I can get!

 

[soso79]

Nice - any pics? I am debating converting mine to fit the KSL. It would run $450 for the swap.. or I sell it and buy a new one.

works Fine

 

[ebikerider]

works Fine



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What spring rate and weight are you?

 

[bepcav82]

What spring rate and weight are you?

EXT provides a very accurate excel sheet for spring calculation: SPRING CALCULATOR - Extreme Racing Shox

 

[bepcav82]

The Storia is a great shock, I have one on my Enduro. I’d say you really don’t need the eStoria. There’s no yoke etc to compound the forces through the shaft as in the Levo. Storia would be more than fine, shaft is 14mm diameter, quite a bit more than any of the competition I’ve seen.

It's good news that EXT story fits!
Unfortunately in my case I have to buy it new. For the small price difference I prefer to buy e-storia because it is optimized for e-bikes.

 

[ebikerider]

EXT provides a very accurate excel sheet for spring calculation: SPRING CALCULATOR - Extreme Racing Shox

Yeah I am aware of that calculator. Nothing like real world experience though. For example that EXT calculator had me on a spring that was 50-75lbs lighter than I needed on another bike.