Kenevo SL Official 2022 Kenevo SL (KSL) Megathread!

[R3Z3N]

^Correct. I recommend the RWC kit for the front mount

 

[HarzEnduro]

I'm going with Huber Bushings. Thanks.

oh and full ext.

 

[StilPhone]

Anyone found a lower bash guard for the chainring? Playing around with the wife's KSL this morning and managed to catch the chainring on a log..

 

[rod9301]

Do these make sense for a haibike nduro with trunnion mount?

 

[HarzEnduro]

 

[R3Z3N]

So with that, we want to see some huck to flat from 6ft+ drops!

I have noticed especially from slo motion footage that the rear end on this bike is quite flexy torsionally, which actually may be a good thing for traction as how MotoGP tunes their frames. My Hightower rear triangle is quite stiff in comparison torsionally.

 

[Doomanic]

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I need a replacement crown, do you have special rates for forum members?

 

[HarzEnduro]

I need a replacement crown, do you have special rates for forum members?

I bought it just like everybody else with a little YouTube rebate. You need a replacement crown for the ERA? What happened?

 

[HarzEnduro]

Just waiting for the Trickstuff Maxima to replace the Direttissima and then there's nothing that could actually be better on this bike (except for the carbon cranks I don't really want after that PB video). All in so to say...

I couldn't be bothered to clean the bike as I'm off to the first ride with the E-Storia.

 

[HarzEnduro]

By the way. I didn't have to file down the spacers when mounting the shock. What I did though was push the Fox shock in from the rear wheel side to get the spacers to sit correctly. This way the EXT slid in perfectly. I measured the eyelets to be the same width so it would've been too curious to have to file down anything.

Riding wise I would highly recommend this shock over the stock Float X, my Comp model came with. Even with the lok lever closed (which I accidentally did riding the first downhill). The performance is so much better and I haven't even chosen a correct setup yet. It's so subtle, you can push the bike down with one finger on the saddle.

 

[MM5K]

So I just got my KSL last month and have been logging almost every ride in an Excel spreadsheet to compile all of the data I could possibly want to look at - average battery usage, speed, elevation gain, etc. - all categorized according to which mode I was using. Or course, these numbers will only get more and more accurate as I log more rides, but the battery usage between modes seems to check out, even in the early stages.

A potential buyer over in the Pinkbike forums asked a question about range, so I figured I'd share my data here too, in case anyone's interested. For reference, I weigh ~143 lbs naked, and my climbs are a pretty even mix of smooth and technical (rocky/rooty) trails.

And here's my longest ride on it so far. I did the whole thing in a custom Eco mode set at 20/100, and I had 16% left with the RE.

For most rides, I've been running my support levels set at 25 / 45 / 100%, and peak power always set to 100%.

 

[R3Z3N]

So here are my measurements with 210mm OneUp 31.6mm diameter (though to be fair I don't think this frame has a reamed seat tube preventing more insertion):
OneUp 210 31.6mm
Seat Rail to top tube dropped no cable 15mm
Seat Rail to BB dropped: 562mm
Seat Rail to BB dropped: 763mm

I checked with and without cable, no cable lowers stack height ~5mm, but my cable end is cut 1/2 off

At 94cm inseam and 190cm tall, the 210mm OneUp will not work. IE:
Xfusion 170mm at my riding setup:
Seat Rail to BB dropped 575mm
Seat Rail to BB raised 738mm
Seat Rail to BB: 555mm (slammed in seat tube not setup for me riding)

Therefore for me the OneUp 210 is:
25mm too tall (for me) when raised and slammed in seat post (shimming down to a 190mm does NOT lower the stack 20mm due to the seat tube angle)
13mm lower when slammed in seat post (for me)
7mm taller stack when slammed than the 170mm slammed

Therefore for me the 210 is a no go as I need more butt clearance already, and am still compromised for climbed seating. I will go with the 180 one up to gain more overall drop with good seating for climbing.

 

[Snowdude]

2) On my fourth or fifth ride, the bike started making constant noise from the crank area whenever I pedal with the motor off. It's usually a high-pitched whine but sometimes shifts to a mid-pitch howl. The sound immediately stops whenever the power comes on. I can see that the spider rotates around a motor-driven shaft, and that shaft stays still when the power is off. I'm sure the sound is coming from some kind of rubbing in the interface between these two parts. This being an SL bike and all, there are a lot of times and places where there's just no need to turn on the power at all. I haven't had the chance to pull the spider yet since I couldn't figure out how to remove the retaining ring straight away. I'm having the dealer look at it since it's already in for the headset cover issue, but they're already trying to give me the excuse that that's normal. I called BS on that since it was perfectly quiet for the first few rides. Has anyone found a suitable lubricant to keep it quiet?

I had the same issue from the brand new KSL. High pitched whining noise from the spindle when you pedal. It is more pronounced with the motor off obviously since motor noise is gone. My dealer said it was within "normal operations." I talked to the Specialized directly and they had the local dealer give me a new motor. Now, It is quiet. No noise whatsoever. When I turn motor off and pedal, there is absolutely no noise whatsoever. You need to get a new motor.

 

[Gyre]

I had the same issue from the brand new KSL. High pitched whining noise from the spindle when you pedal. It is more pronounced with the motor off obviously since motor noise is gone. My dealer said it was within "normal operations." I talked to the Specialized directly and they had the local dealer give me a new motor. Now, It is quiet. No noise whatsoever. When I turn motor off and pedal, there is absolutely no noise whatsoever. You need to get a new motor.

Got the new motor. So far so good - fingers crossed that it will stay that way. How many miles do you have on the replacement motor so far?

 

[Blownoutrides]

So I just got my KSL last month and have been logging almost every ride in an Excel spreadsheet to compile all of the data I could possibly want to look at - average battery usage, speed, elevation gain, etc. - all categorized according to which mode I was using. Or course, these numbers will only get more and more accurate as I log more rides, but the battery usage between modes seems to check out, even in the early stages.

A potential buyer over in the Pinkbike forums asked a question about range, so I figured I'd share my data here too, in case anyone's interested. For reference, I weigh ~143 lbs naked, and my climbs are a pretty even mix of smooth and technical (rocky/rooty) trails.

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And here's my longest ride on it so far. I did the whole thing in a custom Eco mode set at 20/100, and I had 16% left with the RE.

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For most rides, I've been running my support levels set at 25 / 45 / 100%, and peak power always set to 100%.

Love the detail in this. Pretty surprised to see you’re at ~3,500’ at 145lbs in turbo. I’m 230lbs and get about ~3,000’ in turbo. I was guessing lighter folks would be getting proportionately more elevation but it seems like there’s not a 1:1 penalty for weight which is pretty nice!

 

[HarzEnduro]

I've just cleaned my bike and weighed it as I was curious where it came out at.

18.9kgs without range extender, 20kgs with it.

Pretty light for such a sturdy build (Rimpact Pro front/read, EXT E-Storia)

 

[George_KSL]

That's ridiculously light-weight if it includes rimpacts & pedals. What wheelset do you have (its weight)? Any chance you weighted the stock comp wheelset?
Any milk in tires at all :- ) ?

Maybe feel free to write up full specs ;- ) When time.

I need to resist urge to waste money on shit like casette and such. Gave all my light-weight gear (XTR, Carbon wheelset) to wife, built more bullet-proof freeride setup and still numbers bring up my inner worst.

 

[AdmChr]

I've just cleaned my bike and weighed it as I was curious where it came out at.

18.9kgs without range extender, 20kgs with it.

Pretty light for such a sturdy build (Rimpact Pro front/read, EXT E-Storia)

Whoa… that’s very light. I didn’t go for a WW build on my S-Works by any means but damn… it’s more than 3 lbs heavier than yours. I guess it might be the difference in wheels and tires (I don’t run inserts either).
Build list is on VitalMTB

 

[HarzEnduro]

EXT fork is not too light. The E-Storia neither.
It’s the Pi-Rope Advanced wheels at 1440gr. I’ll post full spec once I’m on a computer.

 

[George_KSL]

EXT fork is not too light. The E-Storia neither.
It’s the Pi-Rope Advanced wheels at 1440gr. I’ll post full spec once I’m on a computer.

Right, the E-Storia is about 150 grams heavier than X2 at this length only, EXT Fork is identical in weight to ZEB, slightly lighter than Float 38. So that's wash..

But holy shit, 1440 grams trail wheels :- ). This one ? With textile spokes? PI ROPE Wheelset 29" RL Advanced A.30 Carbon FADE, 2.049,00 € (r2-bike.com)

Looking forward to the full spec.

 

[HarzEnduro]

Looking forward to the full spec.

Here's the Bike-Check. I'm actually surprised by the weight of @AdmChr KSL. I don't have too many parts that are different (I even run a 170mm dropper). I double checked with another scale and came out at the same weights.

The only things that should be lighter are the bars, wheels, tires (maybe not with Rimpact Pro installed), stem, cassette and brakes.

@George_yt There's 100ml sealant in each tire.

Edit: The ERA V2 came in at 2230gr with axle and uncut steerer. I guess it's at 2200 now with the steerer cut to 170mm and the star nut.

 

[George_KSL]

No the weight does make sense with such wheels. Fully believe it's correct.

Mine is 19.9 KG :- ) S3, but I intentionally put burlier parts (Deity DH alum bar, SQ-Lab Infinergy in 15cm, T-Mac pedals, Cush-Core Pro in rear tyre, XC in front).

And how to get to 20,5+ is also easy. You swap 1KG tires to 1.3+ tyres (Dual-ply like DD).

BTW, I knew you would have Beast bars without even zooming into that part of picture :- ).

Very German build, smartly done too!

 

[HarzEnduro]

Very German build, smartly done too!

Thanks.

The first version had the Vecnum Nivo installed. It was 200gr. lighter than the AXS but I had to set it to 178mm to properly work with the cable actuation as there's only very little space in the seat tube. I figured that only 8mm wasn't worth the cable and at 95kg I'm not such a light build either.

When it comes to Pro Core I figured I would do my Carbon rims some good as I got faster immediately with this bike. I was afraid of breaking them on one of my downhills. I have to admit though that I don't know if there's any benefit. I have not had any snakebite on previous rides either.

Once the Maxima arrives, it'll be slightly heavier too.

A fully lightweight but functional build would get me to 18.2 - 18.00 kg but I wanted some parts over other more lightweight parts.

 

[roQer]

EXT fork is not too light. The E-Storia neither.
It’s the Pi-Rope Advanced wheels at 1440gr. I’ll post full spec once I’m on a computer.

How do you like the Pi-Rope wheels? Certainly a interesting option to shed significant amount of weight from the bike. Do you think they will stand the abuse of hard enduro riding and bike parks?

 

[HarzEnduro]

How do you like the Pi-Rope wheels? Certainly a interesting option to shed significant amount of weight from the bike. Do you think they will stand the abuse of hard enduro riding and bike parks?

They have already as I’ve ridden them on my old bike too. I’m not a lightweight rider either.

Not in English but this is one of my lighter hometrails. Riding starts at 1:42

 

[George_KSL]

It's the jump casing I would be stressed about. I am still getting used to the added weight of e-bike and casing everything left and right :- )

 

[Blownoutrides]

It's the jump casing I would be stressed about. I am still getting used to the added weight of e-bike and casing everything left and right :- )

We can split the attorney fees

 

[scooby82r]

I seem to have a small amount of play in my cranks (side to side across the bike)
Not noticed it before.
Anyone else have this or do they need tightening. If so any idea of how?

Many thanks

 

[HarzEnduro]

I seem to have a small amount of play in my cranks (side to side across the bike)
Not noticed it before.
Anyone else have this or do they need tightening. If so any idea of how?

Many thanks

Same question. It makes noises too if I crank very hard.

 

[Doomanic]

I had a new motor a week ago because of crank play.