How important is it? If you can buy a spare part.I am so glad it does not have UDH, that is why I choose it.
How important is it? If you can buy a spare part.I am so glad it does not have UDH, that is why I choose it.
Can u pls test the range with your battery capacity.I will not use the battery in the frame. Which is easier to charge the battery or the bike?. Also do not forget that the CEF50 is lighter by 500g LCE930. CEF50 BB Height is higher.
The past is currently the future.My money is on 20 years ago
Yes. That can be a problem when traveling and/or no dedicated space in the home.I will not use the battery in the frame. Which is easier to charge the battery or the bike?. Also do not forget that the CEF50 is lighter by 500g LCE930. CEF50 BB Height is higher.
I'll be able to check it out next weekend. Considering that 10ah was enough for me for 30km. 15ach should be enough for 45km.Can u pls test the range with your battery capacity.
Please educate me.I am so glad it does not have UDH, that is why I choose it.
I'm assuming that was a rhetorical question.How important is it? If you can buy a spare part.
It comes OE on the CEF50 frame. A "conventional" hanger spare can be purchased from Linda. It is $5 USD. I also posted this about 6 weeks ago on this thread. Got to keep up man.I'm assuming that was a rhetorical question.
How common is this hanger? Can I buy it from anywhere? lbs, ebay, aliex
It's described as a "standard" hanger. How would I even look it up to find?
I can't speak for Mike, but the UDH and UDH-T (for the new AXS) certainly is beefy, high tech, and packed with digital accuracy goodies. But damn, I thought my "old" AXS GX was pricey, the new stuff is mind-blowingly NOT cheap.Please educate me.
edit: I'm not trying to be combative. I'm seriously interested in your opinion.
See it's already 35% cheaper for the upgrade kit.I'm also glad it is not UDH, so I still can user cheaper RD
UDH is totally backwards compatible, so i really don't understand what kind of advantage is to have some non universal solution?I'm also glad it is not UDH, so I still can user cheaper RD
If E10 is UDH, then it is very difficult to bend it. You can break the switch or the frame.UDH is totally backwards compatible, so i really don't understand what kind of advantage is to have some non universal solution?
It doesn't matter to me, I can buy 10 pieces with a bike. It is important to me that now at the moment I can buy and enjoy the ride. UDH does not affect the quality of the frame and the pleasure of riding in any way. For me, the weight of the frame and the strength are important.The only 'standard' derailleur hanger is the UDH and it works perfectly with all derailleurs, is cheap and available everywhere.
Not having a UDH is a major turnoff as I already have a high end '18 bike where the derailleur hangers, just aren't really available any longer.
There seems to be some confusion by some that UDH is only for Transmission. In actuality one must remove the UDH to run Eagle Transmission and this needs the exact cut out and spacing that UDH requires.
Yep. That's my understanding as well. But apparently the CEF50 is not a UDH compatible frame. It uses a conventional hanger.UDH is totally backwards compatible, so i really don't understand what kind of advantage is to have some non universal solution?
that's the point. most of us build this lightweight DIY for less budget.As always, the file and the hammer are our best friend I can't imagine that someone would install a $1000 switch on an $800 frame.
SO I give up a cheap replaceable derailleur hanger that breaks if I get into a crash for one that rips off my whole chain/seat stays in a crash.Please educate me.
edit: I'm not trying to be combative. I'm seriously interested in your opinion.
Yep. That's my understanding as well. But apparently the CEF50 is not a UDH compatible frame. It uses a conventional hanger.
So, with a UDH I can run my old AXS GX on a UDH but not on the new SRAM AXS-T ("T" for transmission). So, yes backward compatible for UDH but no UDH-T type.
Nor will the old school conventional hanger be compatible on UDH frame. Again, that is NOT backward compatible with the new AXS-T rear mech either. Technically, the UDH itself on a UDH frame is completely replaced with the T-type for the new AXS-T transmission.
See the current article below...it's short a quick and clear.
Note, I did re-word my earlier response and just edited it.
SRAM UDH explained | Everything you need to know about SRAM’s Universal Derailleur Hanger
One derailleur hanger to rule them all, one standard to bind them?www.bikeradar.com
Sorry NOT confused.You are still confused.
UDH works with all derailleurs, but you can only run Transmission if the bike came with UDH. That is all.
The other stuff you are saying is gibberish (not trying to be rude).
Anyways, in this frame price range no UDH isn't a big deal and I have no intention of ever running Transmission on any bike. However, just as a matter of convenience and resale value I'd never buy a new high end MTB that didn't use UDH.
Transmission doesn't use a derailleur hanger at all in large part because many derailleur hangers flex and AXS has been flexing lesser hangers and causing shifting issues on some bikes, for years.
Also, the UDH is plastic and when it fails it mostly strips out and rotates. I carry a spare (without the bolt as the bolt doesn't fail) in my SWAT box and it only weighs 14 grams anyways.
Damn dude. Need some caffeine to calm down.There is no such thing as a 'new UDH-T AXS'.
You simply remove the UDH, and install the new Eagle Transmission in it's place. Transmission does not use a hanger at all, but does need the exact spacing left by the removal of the UDH to fit a frame correctly.
Sorry, my Asperger's demands a quest for clarity and accuracy to the point of annoying others at times. Apologies!Damn dude. Need some caffeine to calm down.
Yep. As I said, and you said, remove UDH in order to use the direct mount T-type "hanger". So, correct no hanger at all.
Yes, guilty. I used the term "UDH-T AXS" to attempt to clarify that the new AXS only works with "T" for transmission. I didn't work for you. You got me. Let's move on.
So agreed! the new Eagle has no hanger...it's direct mount that uses the UDH frame.
Correct? Less gibberish for you? 🫡
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