I’m going to test ride one for sure, but I think the Siryon will suit me better. I’m trying to arrange a Rise test ride from Surge Bikes and possibly a Levo SL as well.
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I’m going to test ride one for sure, but I think the Siryon will suit me better. I’m trying to arrange a Rise test ride from Surge Bikes and possibly a Levo SL as well.
It's not like you to point out the obvious but incorrectly.
Orbea will probably come out with a different bike to this ... in the future .. as Specialized will probably come out with a different bike to this ... in the future ..Thanks for the help there. I'm sure a lot of people aren't sure about their own tastes and decisions so it helps to have your guiding wisdom as to what's nice or not.
Again, I'm surprised. I thought the man who doesn't like any bike, design, manufacturer, supplier, shop, colour would definitely have given this the thumbs up.
Sorry mods. Please delete my off topic pointless drivel.
That’s because a certain EMBN presenter local to the area has been out on one for the last month or so. Not exactly ‘hiding’ it away.
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It’s a very very good capable bike. I think the Gen 3 Levo is just such an outstanding bike and almost as capable downhill. They made the Gen3 so good with it’s longer slacker and adjustable Geometry and although they feel quite different to handle I think that you can do more with the Levo.
I really enjoy climbing on the Levo; you can challenge yourself to ridiculous things on it. Not so much on the KSL, climbing became a means to an end for me on it.
What about a full fat KSL though ???
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To add, I ride 100% of my time socially with others on full fat ebikes. Hardly ever ride on my own and if I do it’s a 1 hour power lap of my local woods.
The FF bikes can make this power lap more interesting as I can blast around the flats on full turbo. It can make a boring trail quite interesting!
The FF bikes can make this power lap more interesting as I can blast around the flats on full turbo. It can make a boring trail quite interesting!
Sums up my thoughts really.
Times limited. Fitness isn’t what it could be. I’m sure there’s a lot of satisfaction from riding a pure mtb, but I like the speed of a full fat and tbh when I see super fit guys going quite slow on climbs and flats... I just think to myself where’s the fun in that....
DH maybe different but a FF bike doesn’t go slow there either.
Sure the feel is different but overall I think you get more from the FF bikes which are just getting better all the time
The SL is for lots of people, but I’d buy the bullit over that for similar riding but more motor
@Rob Rides EMTB For some the higher prices will mean a quiver killer bike is a more realistic purchase. £/mile/smiles ridden. I do wonder what the 2019 Comp Carbon would retail at these days? mine is still going strong but it’s had an “easy paper round” life in the hills of Wiltshire ?
It’s great to have choices. The Kenevo SL is a beautiful bike and will no doubt be a monster down hill!
Yep, my thoughts too as a reasonably fit person that can get round Pitch Hill/Winterfold and then go back for more without much of an issue. I mean there was a time when I couldn't get up some of the steeps there
Still, Its not fun going up some of the hills and I don't really gas out these days, its just slow going so I really want something like an SL to try get it out the way faster
My problem is, I think the SL motor is for me. I just wince at £9k.
I might convince myself the S works frame is a good idea so I can put my GX stuff on it..... Got my eye on that. £6k I can sort of deal with, plus a fork
Also got my eye on any 27.5 conversions....or Mullets.
The main problem with Frame sets for the foreseeable future is being stuck with a frame and not being able to acquire the parts to complete the build....
fine if you are swapping over.
but the shortage of parts is surely why specialised are now doing framesets. to keep frame sales moving as they struggle to build complete bikes.
The only sense you have ever spoken
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It’s a BIG bike. Could have ridden either S4 or S5
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I’m very interested in the Siryon too. This Bafang system especially - knowing that my “95Nm” Bafang motor felt weedy compared to Brose and Bosch, I hope their 60Nm Eon Drive feels true to what you’d expect it to feel.
Now I’ve had time to digest I could see myself taking one of these to BPW with 1 or 2 range extenders and having a great day.
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Yep, would be great there. This bike really makes sense for anyone that wants no weight compromise to get in the way and the best, most playful handling on the downs.
If I hadn’t just got the Bullet, I think I’d be homeless if I came home with another £9k bike this month ?
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Just remembered a point. I remember on a YouTube public live stream we did, Marco from Specialized was talking about modular motor upgrades being something they were looking at.
Given that the SL motor first came out July 2019 I have been wondering on the life cycle of that motor and how it fits in with the typical 3 year life cycle of frames.
Assuming this KSL frame will be around from model year 2021-2023... will we still see the 2019 SL 1.1 motor in a 2023 SL?
I’d not be surprised if we see a new uprated Mahle motor at some point in the future and I really hope that it can be retrofit into the current SL type bikes.
Same can be said with the Brose on the Gen 3 Levo...
Given that the SL motor first came out July 2019 I have been wondering on the life cycle of that motor and how it fits in with the typical 3 year life cycle of frames.
Assuming this KSL frame will be around from model year 2021-2023... will we still see the 2019 SL 1.1 motor in a 2023 SL?
I’d not be surprised if we see a new uprated Mahle motor at some point in the future and I really hope that it can be retrofit into the current SL type bikes.
Same can be said with the Brose on the Gen 3 Levo...
fodmtb
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Cant wait to receive my KSL in a few weeks, two years previously on the Kenny Expert, currently on the LSL .
Time for change and maintaining the grin factor. Will reserve opinion until i've spent time on the bike.
Keep innovating Spesh
Time for change and maintaining the grin factor. Will reserve opinion until i've spent time on the bike.
Keep innovating Spesh
Love the look of this but for someone who has a levo sl for trail riding and a kenevo expert for steep stuff it dont fit my bill. Like rob most my riding is in group rides, i have my sl for riding with normal bike mates and solo, and the kenevo for group FF rides and parks Think my current set up is the perfect balance.
maramouse
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this bike is 19kg ( expert ) with undersized tires and air shock, if we fitted two reinforced tires, such as maxxis dd or schwalbe sg and a spring shock, we will add about 1.5kg ....
the bullit of a dear friend of mine, in xt coil version in size m, weighed by me, with feedback scale, is 21,7 kg with dd tires and spring shock absorber, therefore, with the same set-up, we would probably be very close, as weights, but with the difference that the santacruz has a full power ep8 and a removable 630 wh battery and costs less ...
the bullit of a dear friend of mine, in xt coil version in size m, weighed by me, with feedback scale, is 21,7 kg with dd tires and spring shock absorber, therefore, with the same set-up, we would probably be very close, as weights, but with the difference that the santacruz has a full power ep8 and a removable 630 wh battery and costs less ...
Aesthetically it's very nice, but I think Specialized are brave. I don't know from you if these light bikes are sold, but in Italy No. The Orbe Rise with 60Nm engine is sold much more. As in the whole world, here too there are few bikes in this period, instead the shops no longer know how to give (-30% discount) these Levo SL and I am afraid that it will end the same with these Kenevo SL, perhaps a slightly more powerful 35Nm engine was the way ...
For example:
www.peruffo.com
For example:
Promo Specialized Turbo Levo SL - E-MTB Turbo Levo SL - E-Bike
Non perdere l'occasione di possedere una Specialized Turbo Levo SL. Contattaci ora!
www.peruffo.com
jcmonty
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Interesting - @Specialized Rider Care is claiming it will be a Fox Float X (meh) - though every media announcement AND their own pictures on the website show a Fox X2. Fingers crossed they didn't change spec after the first few went out.
Yes because they are! Lazy cheaters! ?Soon, all low powered emtb riders: "FF riders are cheating!..."
Light ebike is best of both worlds is that so hard to understand?! ?
I think you are confusing the current booming in demands with standard ebikes’ demand. Currently a lot of non bikers are rushing to EMTB cause COVID, and the new (temporary) paradigm... Those people will go for full fat ebike, for sure. Light ebikes a are niche for now at least. That is why you see more stocks for SL than Levo or other ebikes... This will balance out at some point.Aesthetically it's very nice, but I think Specialized are brave. I don't know from you if these light bikes are sold, but in Italy No. The Orbe Rise with 60Nm engine is sold much more. As in the whole world, here too there are few bikes in this period, instead the shops no longer know how to give (-30% discount) these Levo SL and I am afraid that it will end the same with these Kenevo SL, perhaps a slightly more powerful 35Nm engine was the way ...
For example:
Promo Specialized Turbo Levo SL - E-MTB Turbo Levo SL - E-Bike
Non perdere l'occasione di possedere una Specialized Turbo Levo SL. Contattaci ora!
Finally, as regard with the rise, sure it is a good competitor being more powerful, it is also heavier, more backcountryish,it has poorer lbs support/service, and the brand resale value is clearly below... Also if the rise sale well at launch it is because, well it is a brand new bike...
Stripped naked on a bed ...
A perspective for what its worth...
Bike looks great.
Not happy with the full 29 Wheelset...one of the best attributes of the original kenevo was the 27.5 Wheelset. They should have at least made it a mullet set up.
1.1 motor is underpowered to say the least.
Pretty good spec but hard to see a true value for the cost.
Specialized had a real opportunity to close the door on all other 'light e-mtb's" with the new Kenevo- but they blew it.
By not AT LEAST matching Orbea's EP8 RS 60NM torque Shimano motor they did all consumers a huge disservice.
It's not say the new KENEVO isn't a nice bike... but it could have been soooo much better. Having a hard time with a shuttle bike that you have to walk up the hills after the third lap... no thanks. Look at all the reviews so far...Downhill is its strength. Horrible uphill. Not a technical climber. Might as well buy the enduro...
Bike looks great.
Not happy with the full 29 Wheelset...one of the best attributes of the original kenevo was the 27.5 Wheelset. They should have at least made it a mullet set up.
1.1 motor is underpowered to say the least.
Pretty good spec but hard to see a true value for the cost.
Specialized had a real opportunity to close the door on all other 'light e-mtb's" with the new Kenevo- but they blew it.
By not AT LEAST matching Orbea's EP8 RS 60NM torque Shimano motor they did all consumers a huge disservice.
It's not say the new KENEVO isn't a nice bike... but it could have been soooo much better. Having a hard time with a shuttle bike that you have to walk up the hills after the third lap... no thanks. Look at all the reviews so far...Downhill is its strength. Horrible uphill. Not a technical climber. Might as well buy the enduro...
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