I've often wondered why more bikes don't offer this option either on the bike or charger. It seems like it wouldn't take much to add it at this point.it also has a Storage setting
What compromises? A gearbox and belt drive have virtually 0 maintenance, (only an oil change once a year) unsprung weight is moved from the rear wheel to the BB. So better suspension and weight balance , no derailleur exposed to break, no chain, cassette or chainring to wear out and replace. Also no chain slap/noise. All win/win in my book.
The MGU is not too loud. In gear 9-12 it is nearly not hearable. In lower gears you hear it. But I would not say "loud".Gearboxes currently are loud, heavy, clunky shifting, unknown/ more parts to break, expensive, geo limiting, inefficient and therefore use more power, etc.
The Nicolai is my first ebike.I like the idea of gearboxes, but the implementation isn't there yet for my needs. Since I run 11 speeds anyways on mid power e-bikes, I don't experience any issues with my drivetrains.
The MGU is not too loud. In gear 9-12 it is nearly not hearable. In lower gears you hear it. But I would not say "loud".
The MGU is not too loud. In gear 9-12 it is nearly not hearable. In lower gears you hear it. But I would not say "loud".
Heavy? What does a deraillieur weight? and a chain? And a cassette? Plus a regular motor? And where is it all the drivetrain stuff placed? In the middle of the bike, for a good balance?
There is no clunky shifting with a MGU. It is a precise electrical sequencial shifting, fast and with really good performance.
Expensive? The MGU costs about 1500EUR.
How much is a SRAM AXS group? Plus BoschCX Motor?
Geo limiting?? I don't know what you mean?
Inefficient? No, it has nearly the same power consumption as BoschCX 4th gen. In several EMTB magazines comparison was already done.
The Nicolai is my first ebike.
My friends have ebikes since ten years now. Several models from several manufacturers. For a lot of them it is absolutely normal that they spend one drivetrain replacement per year! Chain and cassette does not withstand the motor power longer than a season. Even with intense drivetrain cleaning rituals it does not last longer.
This kind of material waste is unacceptable for me.
This was the reason why I planned to wait for the right model with a belt.
The Pinion MGU is the perfect match for my needs.
I am very happy with this lovely piece of german engineering! And I enjoy it with each ride.
The MGU is not too loud. In gear 9-12 it is nearly not hearable. In lower gears you hear it. But I would not say "loud".
Heavy? What does a deraillieur weight? and a chain? And a cassette? Plus a regular motor? And where is it all the drivetrain stuff placed? In the middle of the bike, for a good balance?
There is no clunky shifting with a MGU. It is a precise electrical sequencial shifting, fast and with really good performance.
Expensive? The MGU costs about 1500EUR.
How much is a SRAM AXS group? Plus BoschCX Motor?
Geo limiting?? I don't know what you mean?
Inefficient? No, it has nearly the same power consumption as BoschCX 4th gen. In several EMTB magazines comparison was already done.
The Nicolai is my first ebike.
My friends have ebikes since ten years now. Several models from several manufacturers. For a lot of them it is absolutely normal that they spend one drivetrain replacement per year! Chain and cassette does not withstand the motor power longer than a season. Even with intense drivetrain cleaning rituals it does not last longer.
This kind of material waste is unacceptable for me.
This was the reason why I planned to wait for the right model with a belt.
The Pinion MGU is the perfect match for my needs.
I am very happy with this lovely piece of german engineering! And I enjoy it with each ride.
Nice video!I'm genuinely sorry! There is no perfect.
Edit: this coming weekend, Nicolai will be holding a "house fair" and being a true fan boy, I will be around of course. I will absolutely swing my leg over a Saturn 16 MGU and ride it up the local dirt hill to get a first person impression about the noise. I rode it on their local test track (which doesn't have elevation) and found the eco mode almost inaudible - for me, only eco and the second weakest mode are relevant, for crawling uphill on long fire roads. When blasting up a technical uphill in turbo mode, motor noise is my smallest problem... not dying due to lack of skill is a bigger one!
Here is another recent video of a real world race on the Saturn MGU, also helps to get an idea about sound:
The guy says he rode in "fly" mode the whole time.
It’s totally silent. I need that hub, all I could hear was the tick of the DT 350 and it was annoying haha!That's what everyone mentions after riding the Saturn (or in fact any MGU bike). It even made me get a new rear wheel with a silent Onyx hub for total downhill silence.
I just switch for the DT 370 and it is damn silent in comparison.It’s totally silent. I need that hub, all I could hear was the tick of the DT 350 and it was annoying haha!
Try adding some the DT Swiss special hub grease this will really quieten it downIt’s totally silent. I need that hub, all I could hear was the tick of the DT 350 and it was annoying haha!
Yes, I do have a tub, and I use it quite often. However, it doesn’t last very long before it gets noisy again!Try adding some the DT Swiss special hub grease this will really quieten it down
Nice! Can you link this please? Interestedthat’s why I have my wheelbuilder lace up a rear wheel with a Onyx Singlespeed hub for the Saturn MGU.
Sure: Onyx MTB MFU BOOST ISO HGSS 148/12 Thru-bolt Rear HubNice! Can you link this please? Interested
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