Bafang M560

[dvng]

I would, yeah, they seemed to sound pretty terrible from a lot of the videos I saw.

i have been using the first gen for almost 15months and its not a deal breaker. Its still a capable motor and plenty of torque. I use it for offroad singletrack riding and it’s wonderful. The video with the noise from the motor has the mic placement near the motor is not realistic. The noise gets softer with age.

 

[Dado]

Thats right, action cam is close to a motor. It is not that bad with ears and new motor does not take peoples attention on the street.

 

[John_A]

I would, yeah, they seemed to sound pretty terrible from a lot of the videos I saw.

Here's the bottom of the motor in question

 

[xtraman122]

Here's the bottom of the motor in question

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Interestingly, my 750 updated version doesn't have any such etching on the case itself, maybe that's one way you can tell old vs new. I only have the sticker. When I opened mine up there appeared to be a manufacture date stamped into one of the gears as well, but I'm not sure of a definitive way to tell from the outside. The fact that you have etching with that info where mine has none tells me that might be one of the identifying pieces. Would be good to see a known updated 500w version to confirm.

 

[Dado]

With laser engraved label it will be old M560. Now they putting only sticker.
Also 750W version is reading as 500W hardware.

 

[LAnton]

I couldn't write the new 750W firmware to the old 500W motor.

 

[Dado]

Could be. Also have old motor, which has different boot code. Usa version of motor. So just edited bootcode to take firmware v1.5

Now seems to me there is no different bootcodes with new M560.

 

[_gregor]

New firmware for m560 750W dated: 2024-03-12.

 

[LAnton]

I am more concerned about the question of why, at 300W of power, the M560 motor consumes 30% more energy than the M820 at the same 300W of power. Maybe it's the settings?

 

[Dado]

I am more concerned about the question of why, at 300W of power, the M560 motor consumes 30% more energy than the M820 at the same 300W of power. Maybe it's the settings?

How you found out? Should not be such high difference.

Could depends on rpms it is running (efficiency). Did you run at optimal caddence? Lot of people is riding with low caddence, then part of energy going to heat.

I do not see any major difference in consumption of M560. I am comparing with M620 and Innotrance, ride with same average power, same batteries, similar range.

 

[LAnton]

How you found out? Should not be such high difference.

Could depends on rpms it is running (efficiency). Did you run at optimal caddence? Lot of people is riding with low caddence, then part of energy going to heat.

I do not see any major difference in consumption of M560. I am comparing with M620 and Innotrance, ride with same average power, same batteries, similar range.

I drove the same route on the M820 and M560. That was last year. I'm going to try to tune up the engines of the car and repeat the trip.

 

[xtraman122]

I drove the same route on the M820 and M560. That was last year. I'm going to try to tune up the engines of the car and repeat the trip.

How were you calculating the amount of energy it used? I wouldn’t trust the percentages of battery level from the display if that’s how.

 

[LAnton]

How were you calculating the amount of energy it used? I wouldn’t trust the percentages of battery level from the display if that’s how.

I will do a more accurate check this year. I have installed bluetooth bms on all my batteries

 

[LAnton]

New firmware for m560 750W dated: 2024-03-12.I was able to pour this firmware into the 500W version of the motor. I'm going for a bike ride this weekend