Assembly frame LightCarbon LCE971 bafang M510 (By Denver)

jluketwo

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Thats the exact battery i have and asked them they're claming they don't have it.
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xtraman122

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Well I guess they are technically correct. They got it for me from somewhere else and charged me for it. I do not know where they got it though :/
I got mine from Changzhou Fieldebikes on Alibaba. They sold me the battery and the mount/lock hardware. They sell LightCarbon frames so they’re familiar with what’s needed.

Just need to do the chat thing with them on Alibaba.

It really is annoying LightCarbon can't just sell it all with the frame, battery as well. Especially because they don't paint the battery cover for you so it's always mismatched. Would be a much easier purchasing experience to just get the frame+battery+motor all together from the same place. They do it for the 930 frame, but not the 971.

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jluketwo

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Oct 11, 2024
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NC USA
I got mine from Changzhou Fieldebikes on Alibaba. They sold me the battery and the mount/lock hardware. They sell LightCarbon frames so they’re familiar with what’s needed.

Just need to do the chat thing with them on Alibaba.

It really is annoying LightCarbon can't just sell it all with the frame, battery as well. Especially because they don't paint the battery cover for you so it's always mismatched. Would be a much easier purchasing experience to just get the frame+battery+motor all together from the same place. They do it for the 930 frame, but not the 971.

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Yes this is pretty quirky this has been the hardest part to obtain in the entire build. I have literally everything else.
 

jluketwo

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Oct 11, 2024
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NC USA
I got mine from Changzhou Fieldebikes on Alibaba. They sold me the battery and the mount/lock hardware. They sell LightCarbon frames so they’re familiar with what’s needed.

Just need to do the chat thing with them on Alibaba.

It really is annoying LightCarbon can't just sell it all with the frame, battery as well. Especially because they don't paint the battery cover for you so it's always mismatched. Would be a much easier purchasing experience to just get the frame+battery+motor all together from the same place. They do it for the 930 frame, but not the 971.

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Do you know the pin out or wiring for this? Now they are saying they can sell me the base but without the wires. Did yours have wires?

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Sayonara

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Do you know the pin out or wiring for this? Now they are saying they can sell me the base but without the wires. Did yours have wires?

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Mine did. But they were too short and I had to have them extended.. If I recall the base has positive and negative markers as well as the xt60 connector or whatever it was called 😅 but if you do the wire yourself or have to extend it make sure you use a proper wire suitable for this use. Otherwise the wire can melt and short or cause a fire.

If you don't get an answer I can check up the wiring on my parts.
 

jluketwo

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Oct 11, 2024
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Mine did. But they were too short and I had to have them extended.. If I recall the base has positive and negative markers as well as the xt60 connector or whatever it was called 😅 but if you do the wire yourself or have to extend it make sure you use a proper wire suitable for this use. Otherwise the wire can melt and short or cause a fire.

If you don't get an answer I can check up the wiring on my parts.
If you don't mind could you check yours and let me know. I'm also assuming I need some type of connector to power the m560
 

Sayonara

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If you don't mind could you check yours and let me know. I'm also assuming I need some type of connector to power the m560
It might take few days but I can do it then if no one else has done it before that.

The yellow connector is named something like xt60 like I tried to remember it. It might have been named in this thread on earlier posts. You can find the name for it if you google the motor and check from the information given.
 

KnollyBro

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For the continuation, as I mentioned earlier, we will talk about the wheels from LightCarbon.

View attachment 133430 In choosing the wheel type, I hesitated between two models for a long time...
The model E810-AD938-EN-Race and the model E810-MC937-EN-Race.


Both models share the same type of spokes (Sapim Race), the same hubs(E810), and an asymmetrical design.
However, one model has deeper rims, while the other has shallower ones (MC937 = 18mm / AD938 = 28mm).

In theory, a deeper rim is more vertically rigid, translating to better pedaling efficiency but sacrificing comfort. Currently, the trend is for depths between 18 mm and 22 mm for enduro or downhill riding. Personally, aiming for all-mountain riding and wanting to prioritize efficiency, I gave the 28mm depth model a chance. It's possible that in the future, I might regret this choice. We'll see if LightCarbon hasn't made the rim too vertically rigid. In the worst case, a too-rigid rim tends not to absorb vibrations, making the ride more tiring. An overly rigid rim also has less tolerance for riding mistakes. So, if you're like me and you're unsure, favor a lower height if you'll be riding on very rough trails. Conversely, if you want a more rolling bike, go for a higher height.

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Visually, the rims appear to be of very good quality with solid assembly. Similar to the frame, the rims were chosen with a matte finish. However, (I would have liked to show you in a photo, but I couldn't) the paint layer is much thinner on the rims than on the frame. In reality, the rims have more of a satin effect, and you can very slightly discern the carbon weave. It's a style I wholeheartedly accept; I find it very attractive.

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Let's take a moment to also briefly delve into the dimensions of the rim. The advertised width is 32 mm internal and 38 mm external. When taking measurements on the rims, it's observed that the depth (sorry, I can't find the photo) as well as the external width is as specified. However, the internal width falls short by 1mm (the smallest internal measurement I took was 30.4mm).

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The hubs are black anodized aluminum, and the freehub body is made of steel to withstand the torque from the rider combined with the motor. This is undeniably more durable, and all brands have embraced it, such as "DT Swiss" with their "Hybrid" or "Hope Tech" with their latest "Pro 5." However, one will have to see their bike gain weight as steel freehub bodies are definitely heavier (about 100g more), but it's worth it to avoid future issues. Overall, everything seems correct. I haven't detected any play in the bearings; the machining is entirely satisfactory. I could easily assemble the cassette, and all the threads for the disc screws are perfect.

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And what about the spokes ? Of course !
I believe you've understood that I enjoy pushing the reflection quite far.
Regarding the spokes, I've questioned whether there are counterfeit Sapim spokes.

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Attention, I'm not suggesting that LightCarbon uses counterfeits !)

I own "HOPE" Fortus 30 Pro 4 wheels with Sapim Race spokes, and the LightCarbon wheels are also equipped with Sapim Race spokes ! Comparing the two, we notice that the letter stamping is very similar, but the spokes from "LightCarbon" display a "T," while the "HOPE" wheels show what seems to be a number "6." But it doesn't end there;
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I wanted to push the reflection even further. Currently, I'm developing my own spoke tension meter and calibration bench. Naturally, I have various types of spokes.
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Most of my spokes are ordered from Bike24, and I also have some Sapim spokes from an official distributor! Upon comparisons, it seems challenging to determine whether a spoke is official or not. However, there is one spoke from Bike24 that exhibits a significant flaw (see photos). I can hardly imagine "HOPE" using counterfeit spokes, and consequently, I also believe that "LightCarbon" uses genuine ones. To conclude on the spokes, I would have loved to take the tension of each spoke and provide a detailed report on it. However, my tension meter is not yet completed, so I can't check that aspect yet.

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However, I took the time to check the "warp" of the rims as well as the "hop."

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I'll share a short video with you...
It's excellent craftsmanship !


As for the rim tape, prefer a 32mm width over 30mm, allowing you to cover the entire surface. Regarding tire installation, I managed to mount them without any tools, and I even succeeded in seating the tire sidewalls using a mini pump. For me, it's well-sized, demonstrating that in case of difficulty during a ride, there won't be an issue putting back a sidewall that has come loose. As for air tightness, my tires have been mounted for a week, and I haven't experienced any leaks.

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But then, in the end, do I recommend these rims? If we don't consider the fact that I haven't tried them yet and I don't have durability feedback, I would say: Yes!

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I am interested to hear how your wheels have held up over the past year and if you still would recommend them? I looked into the cost of them from LightCarbon compared to the top tear one available around here (WeAreOne) and they would be close to 65% less, I am looking for an Enduro/DH wheel. Any thoughts?
 

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