The Official BLEvo Thread

[Joop E-Bike]

Today I went biking with my new telephone, a few times the app could not find my bike, that is strange. The three dots are still showing, bike + engine are connected and then it comes on again, what can I do?
I also still have problems with my old telephone: the gained metres do not correspond correctly, many times there is 20 to 30% difference to my Bryton GPS.
I specially bought a phone with a barometer, but no improvement.

 

[eagerly]

Very strange that with barometer you find such discrepancies. Have you tried DEM?

 

[Joop E-Bike]

Very strange that with barometer you find such discrepancies. Have you tried DEM?

Can you explain what DEM? is

 

[mu71rd]

First proper play with the app this weekend. I have a couple of questions:

• I tried to get the apple watch HR stuff to work. it quickly received my starting HR but then beyond that it gave a 'no connection' warning for 10-15 minutes or so. then randomly i would get an update, but really it was a once-every-15-minutes thing rather than 'live'. Clearly not enough for the bike to react and adjust power in the way described in the manual. My understanding from the documentation is that Blevo responding to the live HR info from an Apple Watch is part of its intended usage, but from reading lots of forum posts over the last year or so it seems most people don't manage to get that working. I also saw a post somewhere from the developer saying that Apple Watch doesn't provide realtime data about HR - only saves it on the watch for use later. I'm happy to buy a cheap HR monitor if that is what is required, but I wanted to find out first if anyone has managed to get Blevo to work consistently with Apple Watch HR info for proper 'live' ride adjustments before I spend money on another HR device?
• I tried to increase the maximum speed setting to 40km/h but upon testing, the bike appeared to still be cutting out at the usual 25km/h like before. There's no issue with normal riding behaviour. The app reports firmware as 10.32.0 and the battery is brand new (a warranty replacement for a dead Levo Expert 2017 battery that gave up the ghost).

I also wanted to add that i've read a lot of this thread (not all 138 pages of it, but much of the early stuff is not so relevant now in 2021). I'm amazed at how polite, friendly, responsive and receptive to feedback the developer @PaoloBLEvo is. So refreshing to see, and not often the case. This seems to be a very respectful forum - well done admins. (as an admin of a forum myself, i know that is not an easy tone to create).

nobody else having issues with Apple Watch?

 

[maxx]

Can you explain what DEM? is

Have a look at https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct...vation_model&usg=AOvVaw3bojFNL4fn8h3DqAL1H_6H.
You can find elevation maps of your country in HGT or DEM format. Search maps accurate to 1 arc/second or less. Copy them in BLEVO/MAPS on your device. You can use both formats in BLEvo.

 

[maxx]

Today I went biking with my new telephone, a few times the app could not find my bike, that is strange. The three dots are still showing, bike + engine are connected and then it comes on again, what can I do?
I also still have problems with my old telephone: the gained metres do not correspond correctly, many times there is 20 to 30% difference to my Bryton GPS.
I specially bought a phone with a barometer, but no improvement.

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By the way. What phone with barometer did you buy?

 

[Joop E-Bike]

I found the maps and I downloaded them, thanks very much, I still have to try it out.
I bought a Xiaomi pro M 10 and in the specifications of the phone it says it should have a barometer, when I look in the phone it doesn’t show a barometer, maybe not all the regions have the same specifications?

 

[PaoloBLEvo]

Thank you! I purchased Blevo on android. Is it possible to have this installed in my ios as well?

The store are different.. I have to pay another time sorry..
But I can suggest you to keep Android version and use it only for bike.

 

[PaoloBLEvo]

Can you have the battery firmware upgraded with having to bring the whole bike? Or does it have to be on the bike while updating? Thanks!

It should be on the bike...

 

[aaronrryan]

nobody else having issues with Apple Watch?

I'm having Apple Watch HR issues too...been trying many things for the last few months, but seems there is no fix.
I'm using a iPhone 12 pro with Apple Watch Series 5.
I've tried it using my wife's Apple watch Series 5 and her iPhone 8 Plus too and having the same issue.

Does anyone have BLEvo working consistently with Apple Watch HR?
if so, what version iPhone and Watch do you have?

Attached are photos of it connected but with the HR being off, and then it disconnects, even though the watch is still showing HR.

 

[mu71rd]

I'm having Apple Watch HR issues too...seems there is no fix.
I've tried it using my wife's apple watch and her iPhone too and having the same issue too.

Does anyone have BLEvo working consistently with Apple Watch HR?
if so, what version iPhone and watch do you have?

glad it's not just me - seems really odd that a) a function that has such prominence in the app seems to not work at all, and that b) there is so little enthusiasm to discuss it, or its solution, on the previous 138 pages.

anyone?

 

[PaoloBLEvo]

First proper play with the app this weekend. I have a couple of questions:

• I tried to get the apple watch HR stuff to work. it quickly received my starting HR but then beyond that it gave a 'no connection' warning for 10-15 minutes or so. then randomly i would get an update, but really it was a once-every-15-minutes thing rather than 'live'. Clearly not enough for the bike to react and adjust power in the way described in the manual. My understanding from the documentation is that Blevo responding to the live HR info from an Apple Watch is part of its intended usage, but from reading lots of forum posts over the last year or so it seems most people don't manage to get that working. I also saw a post somewhere from the developer saying that Apple Watch doesn't provide realtime data about HR - only saves it on the watch for use later. I'm happy to buy a cheap HR monitor if that is what is required, but I wanted to find out first if anyone has managed to get Blevo to work consistently with Apple Watch HR info for proper 'live' ride adjustments before I spend money on another HR device?
• I tried to increase the maximum speed setting to 40km/h but upon testing, the bike appeared to still be cutting out at the usual 25km/h like before. There's no issue with normal riding behaviour. The app reports firmware as 10.32.0 and the battery is brand new (a warranty replacement for a dead Levo Expert 2017 battery that gave up the ghost).

I also wanted to add that i've read a lot of this thread (not all 138 pages of it, but much of the early stuff is not so relevant now in 2021). I'm amazed at how polite, friendly, responsive and receptive to feedback the developer @PaoloBLEvo is. So refreshing to see, and not often the case. This seems to be a very respectful forum - well done admins. (as an admin of a forum myself, i know that is not an easy tone to create).

Thanks a lot..
For the Apple Watch issue I know, most of time the watch doesn't send the data in real time to avoid power consumption.. It seems that only old watches can do this.
For the speed limit, I don't understand the firmware version.. I think you should force a reflash of the firmware with the correct version, but you have to go to the dealer for this...

 

[PaoloBLEvo]

do you have suggestion which maps to use in israel ?

No sorry.. you can try all the map.. may the Andromap cover well also Israel..

 

[PaoloBLEvo]

Bm dia @PaoloBLEvo utilizo uma LEVO aqui no Brasil (interior da Bahia / Vitória da Conquista) há 3 anos. E descobri o APP BLEVO e já divulguei o app para 6 amigos. Um sucesso! Pergunto: É possível colocar um "alarme" / notificação sobre a temperatura do motor? Pois o APP mede a temperatura e termos a opção de colocar uma temperatura máxima seria bem interessante. O que acha?

English please..

 

[PaoloBLEvo]

Today I went biking with my new telephone, a few times the app could not find my bike, that is strange. The three dots are still showing, bike + engine are connected and then it comes on again, what can I do?
I also still have problems with my old telephone: the gained metres do not correspond correctly, many times there is 20 to 30% difference to my Bryton GPS.
I specially bought a phone with a barometer, but no improvement.

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For the gained issue try to use the DEM functionality.
For the connession issue, I don't know why sometime happens.. Last time during my ride the connection was restored changing the assistance level.. very strange.. But it was the only time that happened a disconnection..

 

[PaoloBLEvo]

glad it's not just me - seems really odd that a) a function that has such prominence in the app seems to not work at all, and that b) there is so little enthusiasm to discuss it, or its solution, on the previous 138 pages.

anyone?

I think there is not a solution.. The Apple Watch doesn't send the heart rate data in real time..
Some information are here about this..

iOS get heart rate from Apple Watch in near real time

I need to make an app that records heart rate data in near real time and send this data to a server as soon as possible. First I took this approach: Watch os 2.0 beta: access heart beat rate In f...

stackoverflow.com

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[aaronrryan]

Thanks a lot..
For the Apple Watch issue I know, most of time the watch doesn't send the data in real time to avoid power consumption.. It seems that only old watches can do this.
For the speed limit, I don't understand the firmware version.. I think you should force a reflash of the firmware with the correct version, but you have to go to the dealer for this...

Zwift uses a Zwift app on the Apple Watch that "Pairs" with the Zwift app running on the iPhone, it then actively send HR to the Zwift app on the iPhone. I wonder if a similar BLEvo Apple Watch app could be used to do the same.

https://support.zwift.com/en_us/heart-rate-monitors-Hk0MimWlS#Apple

 

[mu71rd]

I think there is not a solution.. The Apple Watch doesn't send the heart rate data in real time..
Some information are here about this..

iOS get heart rate from Apple Watch in near real time

I need to make an app that records heart rate data in near real time and send this data to a server as soon as possible. First I took this approach: Watch os 2.0 beta: access heart beat rate In f...

stackoverflow.com

.

thanks Paulo for the response. Yes i think the only solution would be a watch native app, but I know i read before you've said you don't have time to implement that, which I understand.

Would it not be better to remove the 'use Apple Watch for HR' option from the menu if that is never going to actually work? I just think that gives people false hope and then eventual frustration that the feature doesn't work as expected. Is this lack of real-time data a recent thing?

 

[Mtbvkk]

I’m switching from a Levo to an SL. Does the app work with an SL? I’m guessing yes because the TCU is the same but want to be sure. I don’t have the SL yet to try so was wondering.

 

[Mtbvkk]

I'm having Apple Watch HR issues too...been trying many things for the last few months, but seems there is no fix.
I'm using a iPhone 12 pro with Apple Watch Series 5.
I've tried it using my wife's Apple watch Series 5 and her iPhone 8 Plus too and having the same issue.

Does anyone have BLEvo working consistently with Apple Watch HR?
if so, what version iPhone and Watch do you have?

Attached are photos of it connected but with the HR being off, and then it disconnects, even though the watch is still showing HR.
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I haven’t ridden recently but apple watch support is the main reason I purchaed the app so that’s dissapointing to hear.

 

[PaoloBLEvo]

thanks Paulo for the response. Yes i think the only solution would be a watch native app, but I know i read before you've said you don't have time to implement that, which I understand.

Would it not be better to remove the 'use Apple Watch for HR' option from the menu if that is never going to actually work? I just think that gives people false hope and then eventual frustration that the feature doesn't work as expected. Is this lack of real-time data a recent thing?

Maybe you are right.. It is better to remove even if I know that there are guys who are using it correctly..

 

[PaoloBLEvo]

I’m switching from a Levo to an SL. Does the app work with an SL? I’m guessing yes because the TCU is the same but want to be sure. I don’t have the SL yet to try so was wondering.

Yes, BLEvo works with the SL.. I have the SL bike..

 

[mu71rd]

Maybe you are right.. It is better to remove even if I know that there are guys who are using it correctly..

what do you mean by "using it correctly?". I'm happy to get it to work if there is something i'm doing wrong, but the impression I got is that it doesn't work due to an issue with Apple Watch? Is it a recent Apple Watch problem, or updated software?

 

[PaoloBLEvo]

what do you mean by "using it correctly?". I'm happy to get it to work if there is something i'm doing wrong, but the impression I got is that it doesn't work due to an issue with Apple Watch? Is it a recent Apple Watch problem, or updated software?

I think the last version of the Apple Watch don't permit this to save the battery of the watch.
I have to ask some try.
Please follow what it is written here..

Strava Apple Watch App

Set up Strava on your Apple Watch: Download the Strava app on your iPhone if you haven't already. Open the "My Watch” section of the Apple Watch app on your phone. Find the Strava app to install o...

support.strava.com

Start in the same time BLEvo and Strava app on the phone and start the Strava app on the Apple Watch.
BLEvo should be able to read the data from the healthy kit (if it is allowed before).
Could you try and let me know?
Sorry but I don't have the Apple Watch and I cannot try..

 

[Kave]

So, i have so many bluetooth issues with my Bv6000 that I consider using an older iPhone instead for Blevo. However, the map display on iOS is so bad. Is there any possibility that you will change this to some other map source? On the android I use the downloadable ones and they are great. Here is Gaia GPS using the same openstreetmap as Blevo but with a much greater visibility.

 

[mu71rd]

I think the last version of the Apple Watch don't permit this to save the battery of the watch.
I have to ask some try.
Please follow what it is written here..

Strava Apple Watch App

Set up Strava on your Apple Watch: Download the Strava app on your iPhone if you haven't already. Open the "My Watch” section of the Apple Watch app on your phone. Find the Strava app to install o...

support.strava.com

Start in the same time BLEvo and Strava app on the phone and start the Strava app on the Apple Watch.
BLEvo should be able to read the data from the healthy kit (if it is allowed before).
Could you try and let me know?
Sorry but I don't have the Apple Watch and I cannot try..

how annoying. yes I'll try it and see what happens. I did try this with an apple watch 'outdoor cycle' but perhaps it needs to be a third party app like Strava. Will see how I get on. I have an Apple Watch 6

 

[Tonybro]

Just use the Workout on the watch - Outdoor Bike Ride and look at the stats on the iPhone it syncs with (Fitness app). On Fitness app it shows the workout, tap on it, see all the stats and at the bottom is the map - tap on that to get the details...

 

[mu71rd]

Just use the Workout on the watch - Outdoor Bike Ride and look at the stats on the iPhone it syncs with (Fitness app). On Fitness app it shows the workout, tap on it, see all the stats and at the bottom is the map - tap on that to get the details...
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yes recording it is not an issue. the issue is whether the HR data can be read in real time by Blevo so that the HR features work on the app.

 

[Tonybro]

yes recording it is not an issue. the issue is whether the HR data can be read in real time by Blevo so that the HR features work on the app.

Apologies, saw the map and the reference to Apple Watch...

 

[PaoloBLEvo]

So, i have so many bluetooth issues with my Bv6000 that I consider using an older iPhone instead for Blevo. However, the map display on iOS is so bad. Is there any possibility that you will change this to some other map source? On the android I use the downloadable ones and they are great. Here is Gaia GPS using the same openstreetmap as Blevo but with a much greater visibility.

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First of all it is better to solve the issue with BV6000 that is very good for bike and BLEvo..
I think there are some settings in the Android setup to avoid Bluetooth issue.
For iOS, your are showing the Map after ride, not the map during the ride that are Mapbox and not Google... Mapbox is a little better than Google map..