Levo SL Gen 1 Official Levo SL Thread

[Krisvanlog]

It would explain Specialized's "relaxed" response...

I'll bet it isn't missing. I'll bet it's no longer part of the alloy bike's specification.

In any event, it looks standard. This is a product shot from Chain Reaction in NZ:

Does seem to be standard. I'm going to get a little black grub screw to put in it haha. Would be nice if specialized filled the hole if they had an afterthought and decided not to use it.

 

[Norcalsl]

2021 Levo SL

just realized that the specialized website displays new 2021 Levo SL S Works & Levo SL Expert Carbon. (both bikes feature stock FOX 36 forks and upgraded brakes, same with new 2021 FF Levos appearing)

nevertheless a new 2021 Levo SL Comp Carbon won´t show up yet...

should we expect a new 2021 Levo SL Comp Carbon upcoming in the next days?

Do you think it will feature an upgraded Fox 36" fork?

I bought a SL Comp Carbon a couple of weeks ago from my LBS. It was labeled as a 2021 model on the shipping box from Spesh. The only change was a brake upgrade to Guide REs. Still has the Fox Rhythm 34 fork (which is fine for the riding I do) and everything else is the same as the 2020 model. I ended up upgrading most of the OEM components before it left the shop.

 

[Konanige]

Does seem to be standard. I'm going to get a little black grub screw to put in it haha. Would be nice if specialized filled the hole if they had an afterthought and decided not to use it.

Its not an after thought, there should be a grub screw in there to stop the internal nylon sleeving dropping into the frame (it just pinches the end of the tubes) it could be that yours is too far in the hole to see easily. This is how mine is, but it still doesnt alter the fact that the frame looks unfinished!!!

 

[Ricky1979]

That's the "drive side" port, Ricky - my own bike has a cover on the drive side port - the non-drive side is different.

As I've pointed out, and as p3eps suggests, they're apparently coming out of the factory like this:

Yeah the photo was of the drive side, was just pointing out what the cable guide is and aye they are coming out the factory with out a cable guide on the non drive, in my option can’t see why they have done this as it looks unfinished, I was just pointing out that the cable guide is not there but the screw should be.

 

[crazymelki]

A short 1km ride connnected with the new Sensor ID's was giving me wrong information about the E-bike Battery Level and E-bike Assist Mode with the Ebike Filed App. Yes I changed before the test riede the ID's also in the app. I had the right information on the Garmin display during the ride. The battery was not full charged (around 80%) and I was shifting between, Eco, Trail and Boost cupple times.

I did a config mistake yesterday. The Ebike Sensor must be disabled on the Garmin Edge, otherwise you will not get the information with the Ebike Filed app.

Seems there did only change the Sensor ID for me....with the update.

 

[All Mountain Coaching]

Hired an SL at Glentress today to try out (currently only have analogue bike). That was a mistake - absolute weapon even with the sub-standard fork.

Just out of interest is everyone paying RRP for bikes or are dealers doing any discounts? Presume not at the moment with shortage of bikes?

Freeborn offer 15% just like that. No haggle

 

[sniffy]

Sorry folk, I'm sure this has been done to death but SL Carbon comp here, front chainring is too small as you know, what are the UK options for say 34/36T, any issue found I should watch for ??

 

[AaronMc]

Who was that with if you don't mind me asking?

Freeborn Cycles in Horsham. Amazing service all round from them, and even aftercare since purchasing regarding my front brake feeling poor, they are sending me out pads and rotor cleaner to try! Cannot fault that for service.. Free 1st service and firmware update too. Joe and Sam have both been great!

 

[boBE]

Sorry folk, I'm sure this has been done to death but SL Carbon comp here, front chainring is too small as you know, what are the UK options for say 34/36T, any issue found I should watch for ??

I have a WolfTooth 34 on my aluminum Comp, fits and works ok with the chainguide. Another poster says his same ring hits the chainstay, we don't know why.

 

[Norcalsl]

I'm thinking about upgrading the Guide RE brakes on my 2021 Levo SL to G2 Ultimates. Anyone using these? Opinions?

 

[Norcalsl]

The best MTB disc brakes – 14 MTB brakes in comparison

We tested the 14 newest and most powerful MTB brakes - in the lab and on the trail.

enduro-mtb.com

Breaking torque shows the numbers to go off of. The ultimates are not all that. I have them and they’re good with 220/200 rotors but I’m waiting on trickstuff.

The review does not list the G2 Ultiimates.

 

[Tobers]

I'm thinking about upgrading the Guide RE brakes on my 2021 Levo SL to G2 Ultimates. Anyone using these? Opinions?

I put Guide Ultimates (the earlier version) on my SL. I really like them. They are very progressive and smooth, and not “sudden”. You can modulate your braking power very precisely. The variable contact adjustment is nice.

I have Shimano XT brakes on my normally aspirated Yeti. By comparison, the Shimanos have more sudden “bite”. I used to like this bite - it feels efficient and immediate. But having experienced the Ultimates, I now much prefer their more progressive feel. It’s possible you could perceive this progressiveness as “squidgy” or “sort” but that’s far from the case. There’s loads of power there and you can control it really easily.

I did find it took a little while for the new pads to bed into the discs so initially the brakes didn’t feel as potent as I thought they would be, but now they are just awesome.

So, a positive vote from me.

 

[p3eps]

I'm thinking about upgrading the Guide RE brakes on my 2021 Levo SL to G2 Ultimates. Anyone using these? Opinions?

I had G2 RSC’s, which I believe are the same brakes but without as much adjustability or carbon levers.
I found them dreadful - and swapped them out after a few rides for Magura MT7s.
It seems in 2021, Specialized think the same - as they’ve swapped the S-Works G2 Ultimates for MT7’s too!

Lacking power, faded really quickly, and squeal like hell when damp / wet. Maybe new pads would have made them better - but I couldn’t wait to get rid of them.

 

[paquo]

I'm thinking about upgrading the Guide RE brakes on my 2021 Levo SL to G2 Ultimates. Anyone using these? Opinions?

i have those and they have been reliable unlike avid/sram from a few years ago. Setup was easy unlike maguras which can be a nightmare.The contact point adjust works well unlike the shimanos on my other bike. Power is good enough with 200 mm rotors.Have you tried kevlar or similar pads? Because they help a bunch

 

[hbakken]

Hi, can anyone help me finding a technical specification which details out all the bearings dimension on the SL?

Or, can anyone confirm that they are the same as one the Turbo Levo?

 

[Norcalsl]

i have those and they have been reliable unlike avid/sram from a few years ago. Setup was easy unlike maguras which can be a nightmare.The contact point adjust works well unlike the shimanos on my other bike. Power is good enough with 200 mm rotors.Have you tried kevlar or similar pads? Because they help a bunch

Yes, I have set of unused Gorilla Kevlar pads which I plan on using if I get the Ultimates.

 

[Norcalsl]

I had G2 RSC’s, which I believe are the same brakes but without as much adjustability or carbon levers.
I found them dreadful - and swapped them out after a few rides for Magura MT7s.
It seems in 2021, Specialized think the same - as they’ve swapped the S-Works G2 Ultimates for MT7’s too!

Lacking power, faded really quickly, and squeal like hell when damp / wet. Maybe new pads would have made them better - but I couldn’t wait to get rid of them.

What type of riding are you doing? I am basically on cross-country type trails and don't do any hard-core downhill stuff. Also, my SL only weighs 35 lbs. and I'm 158 lbs.

 

[onkelshort]

Yes, it will work fine. You will have to adjust air pressure for your weight and riding style. You can add tokens if you need more progressive damping.

Hi, you have to be careful here with the tune of the damper. In terms of size there's no problem. You will get additional travel and no collision will happen with 55mm stroke.
But if you have the wrong tune then the bike will not be working as it should. Send the tune id to fox and ask if it fits.
The standard tune of levo stumpjumper and levo sl is Rx tune, that's not done for aftermarket damper of fox.
I got one myself from a stumpi and it works perfect. I removed the spacer and got 55mm stroke instead of 50, which makes 160mm travel and works nicely.

 

[jcmonty]

Hi, you have to be careful here with the tune of the damper. In terms of size there's no problem. You will get additional travel and no collision will happen with 55mm stroke.
But if you have the wrong tune then the bike will not be working as it should. Send the tune id to fox and ask if it fits.
The standard tune of levo stumpjumper and levo sl is Rx tune, that's not done for aftermarket damper of fox.
I got one myself from a stumpi and it works perfect. I removed the spacer and got 55mm stroke instead of 50, which makes 160mm travel and works nicely.

The stock dps has a digressive tune , which was supposedly done to help with pedaling. The stock Levo (full fat) dps has a different tune.

personally, I think the character of this the bike does well without that sock tune. I went coil

 

[SL-ED]

I don't feel much or if any difference at all between Trail or Turbo mode. I have not changed any settings at all Trail still at 70/70 and Turbo at 100/100. Do you guys feel any difference?

 

[55plusmxinsanity]

I don't feel much or if any difference at all between Trail or Turbo mode. I have not changed any settings at all Trail still at 70/70 and Turbo at 100/100. Do you guys feel any difference?

Once you’re spinning there is not much difference, it’s a small motor with 25ft lb of torque ( vs the standard Levo with 70 ft lb of torque. What you can feel on take off and from slow to high cadence is a bit of acceleration difference.
I just run a universal setting ( 15/100 or 25/100)in all three modes and the acceleration is noticeable.

 

[bguevarra064]

I don't feel much or if any difference at all between Trail or Turbo mode. I have not changed any settings at all Trail still at 70/70 and Turbo at 100/100. Do you guys feel any difference?

I do feel a slight difference between Trail and Turbo mode on my SL. I’m running factory tune settings on MC.

Just double checked and my stock factory settings are 35/35 60/60 and 100/100.
Yours is 70/70? Maybe that’s why?

I personally like the factory settings. I’ve got about 100 miles on my SL and the tune has been good for my trails in terms of power delivery and battery consumption.

 

[SL-ED]

Once you’re spinning there is not much difference, it’s a small motor with 25ft lb of torque ( vs the standard Levo with 70 ft lb of torque. What you can feel on take off and from slow to high cadence is a bit of acceleration difference.
I just run a universal setting ( 15/100 or 25/100)in all three modes and the acceleration is noticeable.

Thanks for confirming.. Yeah since I don't feel much difference I just keep it in trail to save battery..

 

[KeithR]

I don't feel much or if any difference at all between Trail or Turbo mode. I have not changed any settings at all Trail still at 70/70 and Turbo at 100/100. Do you guys feel any difference?

Levo SL Gen 1 - Difference between Sport and Turbo modes

Hi all, I've had my 2020 Comp SL for about a week now, and I'm enjoying it immensely - even at the age of (nearly) 60, and coming from a FF Bosch-powered Cube, I think that Specialized has really read the room right with regard to their power decisions with this bike/motor combo. But here's a...

www.emtbforums.com

 

[boBE]

I don't feel much or if any difference at all between Trail or Turbo mode. I have not changed any settings at all Trail still at 70/70 and Turbo at 100/100. Do you guys feel any difference?

I feel a BIG difference in the acceleration from Trail to Turbo. Also in Turbo it is difficult to keep the motor engaged unless I am close to the assist MPH limit. I run 35/45, 65/65, 100/100.

 

[SL-ED]

Levo SL Gen 1 - Difference between Sport and Turbo modes

Hi all, I've had my 2020 Comp SL for about a week now, and I'm enjoying it immensely - even at the age of (nearly) 60, and coming from a FF Bosch-powered Cube, I think that Specialized has really read the room right with regard to their power decisions with this bike/motor combo. But here's a...

www.emtbforums.com

Thanks for the link Keith

 

[KeithR]

Thanks for the link Keith

Dunno if it will help, but it gives you some options.

 

[Hoppy]

Anyone know what gets updated in the motor. I would love 55nm just from an update like Fazua.

 

[boBE]

Anyone know what gets updated in the motor. I would love 55nm just from an update like Fazua.

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I had mine updated to 42.6.1c just a couple weeks ago, didn't notice any difference, wrote to Specialized, they said they didn't know what the update does (hey, that's two of us but they are *supposed to* know). I doubt I will take mine in for the latest update until I know what it does.

 

[Housenotes]

Let's start a thread on SL Mission Control settings for ECO, TRAIL, & TURBO. Give your settings, typical type of trail you ride, & what you've noticed using your settings, so others can benefit from each others experience. P.S. New Turbo Levo SL Comp Carbon rider as of Yesterday!