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Seems biggest ‘upgrade’ for saving weight is the NX Cassette.
Yeah they mentioned at the press camp AXS isn’t really a weight saver, more a highest-on-the-spec list component.@Rob Hancill i’m not sure AXS is on that table (I’ve been using that to compare the Comp Carbon and Expert, NX vs GX). It appears there’s a 100g weight penalty on the derailleur too:
https://bikerumor.com/2019/07/09/unboxed-sram-eagle-axs-xx1-xo1-actual-weights-install-notes/
Yeah they mentioned at the press camp AXS isn’t really a weight saver, more a highest-on-the-spec list component.
Makes sense, I mean we‘re all weenie-ing out a little here.
Having used AXS on the shifting side and dropper post on a few bikes now I much prefer the dropper version.
AXS gear shifting ergonomics is not that great tbh. The shifter is a little awkward and lacks ‘feel’
On the other hand the dropper shifter is excellent. A large paddle style lever and instant engagement.
I’d buy (and have done) the AXS dropper but definitely wouldn’t bother with the shifter / rear mech. In fact I’d rather have the regular cable operated XX1.
On a comp carbon, would it be possible to simply swap from an NX cassette to a GX cassette?
Where?Define amazing deal?! I got 15% off today on an Expert.
Store in Aberdeen. Apparently you should be able to get 15% off Specialized from most retailers - so I asked!Where?
it's in one of the Levo SL threads .. can't remember which one though . I think there's 3 juggling for top spot.Where?
is this a quiz?it's in one of the Levo SL threads .. can't remember which one though . I think there's 3 juggling for top spot.
is this a quiz?
I ordered one of these.
chwalbe Eddy Current Rear Addix-Soft, SuperGravity, Tubeless Folding HS497 MTN Bike Tire
Will mount it and find out.
In the process of changing the rear tire to the Maxxis 2.6" DHRii, I also had the LBS remove the tubes. In the process the bike got 90 grams lighter
Removed Tubes. -502
Removed Elimiminator. -977
Added Maxxis DHRii. +1035
added tape, Stans. 354
Weight removed. -90 grams
Is your question regarding the difference in the ability of an Eliminator and DHRii to shed mud or the dimensional differences. If there is a mud problem, it will likely be with both tires...you got a 2.6 DHR in the back of an SL? ridden it in mud yet?
Yes, the geo of the SL is like that of the Levo. Very conservative. It’s fine for many people, but not super long or slack.Rob- You have been blown away by the Geo of the Kenevo, and the Levo SL retains the Reach, STA, and HA of the Regular Levo. As for me, I just cannot get a good fit at 6'1" on the Levo XL which is a shame. I feel that Specialized missed the mark on the Geo of this bike. Just look at the progression of the frame Geo numbers going into 2020 and beyond, and it just makes for such an improvement on the overall ride of the bikes. Yes, we do progress along the way, and I figure for this pricing Specialized should have gone more for the S sizing of the bikes. If they had just slackened and lowered it a bit, then I figure it would be a bike worthy of these prices. As you noted so eloquently, you finally found a bike in the Kenevo (Decoy too) that finally fit you properly and that you were "in" the bike. I for one was very surprised that Specialized did not take this opportunity to address Geo fitting for 2020. It's not to say it's not a great bike for many, but who wants Geo from yesteryear? It will be interesting to note how you feel over the long term. My bet is the net generation will bring the Geo numbers into place, and I'm hearing locally here in Northern CA that Specialized has already started integration into a new S sizing Geo SL. Guess I'll just wait for the Geo to step up. Thoughts Rob?
Having used AXS on the shifting side and dropper post on a few bikes now I much prefer the dropper version.
AXS gear shifting ergonomics is not that great tbh. The shifter is a little awkward and lacks ‘feel’
On the other hand the dropper shifter is excellent. A large paddle style lever and instant engagement.
I’d buy (and have done) the AXS dropper but definitely wouldn’t bother with the shifter / rear mech. In fact I’d rather have the regular cable operated XX1.
Rob- You have been blown away by the Geo of the Kenevo, and the Levo SL retains the Reach, STA, and HA of the Regular Levo. As for me, I just cannot get a good fit at 6'1" on the Levo XL which is a shame. I feel that Specialized missed the mark on the Geo of this bike. Just look at the progression of the frame Geo numbers going into 2020 and beyond, and it just makes for such an improvement on the overall ride of the bikes. Yes, we do progress along the way, and I figure for this pricing Specialized should have gone more for the S sizing of the bikes. If they had just slackened and lowered it a bit, then I figure it would be a bike worthy of these prices. As you noted so eloquently, you finally found a bike in the Kenevo (Decoy too) that finally fit you properly and that you were "in" the bike. I for one was very surprised that Specialized did not take this opportunity to address Geo fitting for 2020. It's not to say it's not a great bike for many, but who wants Geo from yesteryear? It will be interesting to note how you feel over the long term. My bet is the net generation will bring the Geo numbers into place, and I'm hearing locally here in Northern CA that Specialized has already started integration into a new S sizing Geo SL. Guess I'll just wait for the Geo to step up. Thoughts Rob?
That’s a fair point. More like the Stumpjumper Evo.
Yes, the geo of the SL is like that of the Levo. Very conservative. It’s fine for many people, but not super long or slack.
It’s a fast trail bike. Not a long stable enduro descender. Many people will like the nimble feeling. Some might not and prefer the stable feeling a longer slacker bike offers.
Personally, I think that Specialized have stuck with a tried and tested geometry in using the Levo’s geometry. Tried and tested as in they know it’s successful as the Levo is a good seller.
In my opinion the SL platform was an opportunity to focus on the new motor and integration and not worry so much about the suspension / geo. They already did that with the 2019 Levo. It sold in huge numbers. It is safe to use that geo.
I think I the next bike will have a radically different geo. Motor / integration will be nailed. Next is to nail the geo to modern standards.
To add, I have no insider info (If I did I would not be able to comment!), this is pure speculation.
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