New Santa Cruz model

[mehukatti]

This one is size L.

 

[MontanaYeti]

Anyone know when the Bosch screens will be available for the top tube?

 

[jbrown15]

Anyone know when the Bosch screens will be available for the top tube?

Probably not anytime soon, otherwise all of these new bikes would have launched with them.

 

[RSG]

Had a chance to ride one of these for a few hours on a demo day last weekend and it was fantastic.

I was short on time - the Bullit I was signed up to ride for a couple of hours had issues after only 30 mins/400m of elevation and one descent so I went back and they put me on the Vala (what a shame!).

I managed to get about 1300m of elevation in about 1hr 30, riding it straight up the most direct routes I could find in turbo and giving it a good go on the way down too. I brought it back to them with half a bar of battery left. Would be interested to try it out for a longer time and seeing what you could get out of it on a longer ride with it in trail/eco etc when you're not in a rush. Also would be interesting to see how it goes with the range extender.

Compared to the one run I did on the Bullit before it died, I went back up and started with the same track for a good comparison and it felt extremely composed, very quiet and smooth and those new schwalbe radial tyres definitely make a difference.

Standover clearance felt much lower on the Vala which was nice and confidence inspiring.

 

[Q9000]

Can we talk about a Bullit replacement? A Vala with longer travel and a little slacker?

 

[Dirtnvert]

Can we talk about a Bullit replacement? A Vala with longer travel and a little slacker?

I wonder if anyone has long stroked their vala? Theres room on the shock stroke on them. Not sure if the frame has clearance though. A possible 180f/163r vala would also be almost 1⁰ slacker, before any anglesets get installed

 

[Q9000]

I wonder if anyone has long stroked their vala? Theres room on the shock stroke on them. Not sure if the frame has clearance though. A possible 180f/163r vala would also be almost 1⁰ slacker, before any anglesets get installed

That would be very close to what I'm looking for. Seems that the Bullit is feeling out of date with the Shimano motor. Also as SC is giving the 4bar (on the Vala) such praise this adds to the Bullit feeling tired. Time for a long travel SC Ebike?

 

[leroy]

I'm interested in the potential new bike too but there doesn't seem to be to many rumours about.

I know that the dealer network have to sign NDA'S so maybe its imminent but nobody is talking about it.

what we do know is that the bullet is well past its sell by date so you would expect a replacement soon.

 

[Q9000]

I'm interested in the potential new bike too but there doesn't seem to be to many rumours about.

I know that the dealer network have to sign NDA'S so maybe its imminent but nobody is talking about it.

what we do know is that the bullet is well past its sell by date so you would expect a replacement soon.

Agreed. I'm not hearing much about a Bullit replacement. Whilst the Specialised rumor mill is going crazy!

 

[5Tuey]

I'm interested in the potential new bike too but there doesn't seem to be to many rumours about.

I know that the dealer network have to sign NDA'S so maybe its imminent but nobody is talking about it.

what we do know is that the bullet is well past its sell by date so you would expect a replacement soon.

Still love mine

 

[Q9000]

I wonder if anyone has long stroked their vala? Theres room on the shock stroke on them. Not sure if the frame has clearance though. A possible 180f/163r vala would also be almost 1⁰ slacker, before any anglesets get installed

There's a big discussion on another thread basically saying overshocking is a bad idea. ie the bike is designed a certain way by clever designers who know what theyre doing and some bloke in a garage thinks he knows better etc etc.
I don't really know but I just wish SC would hurry up and give me a longer travel ebike!

 

[Dirtnvert]

There's a big discussion on another thread basically saying overshocking is a bad idea. ie the bike is designed a certain way by clever designers who know what theyre doing and some bloke in a garage thinks he knows better etc etc.
I don't really know but I just wish SC would hurry up and give me a longer travel ebike!

Oh sure, thats been the argument by people that cant think for themselves for ages only to have next years bikes adopt what people have done in the real world. Every year a company claims its the perfect geo. Next year its longer and slacker etc etc etc. Kind of an embarassing argument with so many course corrections ,with pretty much every bike forevvvaaarr
Besides whats to stop some one from just throwing on a shock w the same eye to eye with a longer stroke to try it. If the tire doesnt rub and no frame parts collide it accomplishes the goal. Shock rate/linkage design can be managed with various home shock tuning methods

 

[TheMirrorVision]

Oh sure, thats been the argument by people that cant think for themselves for ages only to have next years bikes adopt what people have done in the real world. Every year a company claims its the perfect geo. Next year its longer and slacker etc etc etc. Kind of an embarassing argument with so many course corrections ,with pretty much every bike forevvvaaarr
Besides whats to stop some one from just throwing on a shock w the same eye to eye with a longer stroke to try it. If the tire doesnt rub and no frame parts collide it accomplishes the goal. Shock rate/linkage design can be managed with various home shock tuning methods

Agreed, and I wouldn't be surprised if Cascade Components develops a link to further increase progression and also increase travel like they have for many other bikes.

 

[ckkone]

Can we talk about a Bullit replacement? A Vala with longer travel and a little slacker?

Went to local shop and rode Vala today, asked about Bullit replacement and was told very soon 1st quarter 2025, 600W batt, similar weight, more travel. so worth waiting if thats what you want Bullit replacement is very near, he stopped short of telling me the date but could tell he have more info.

 

[Dirtnvert]

Agreed, and I wouldn't be surprised if Cascade Components develops a link to further increase progression and also increase travel like they have for many other bikes.

Exactly!
Further irony that the vala is the bike they developed after pushing vpp as "the" system. With the vala, they must have the perfect engineer-designers now/Esarc

 

[RSG]

Has anyone heard anything further? I reached out to Stif in the UK to ask if there was any news but they didn't give much away at all - just said hopefully this year.

Seems a lot of manufacturers are releasing bikes with 160/150 travel but there's still a lot of demand for 170/170 - at the moment the only options I can see for longer travel are the Orbea Wild (but no way would I buy a bike with headset cable routing) and the crestline (limited production numbers and harder to get outside of the USA).

 

[Q9000]

Has anyone heard anything further? I reached out to Stif in the UK to ask if there was any news but they didn't give much away at all - just said hopefully this year.

Seems a lot of manufacturers are releasing bikes with 160/150 travel but there's still a lot of demand for 170/170 - at the moment the only options I can see for longer travel are the Orbea Wild (but no way would I buy a bike with headset cable routing) and the crestline (limited production numbers and harder to get outside of the USA).

Yes I agree!!
I'm having the same problem here in Australia. I was so close to getting the crestline but without support network I held off. Defo want more travel. There are rumours about Unno and Forbidden with new bikes which might help us but I'm finding it hard to wait!

 

[ckkone]

I'm hearing rumors of March and will coincide with the release of SRAM T-Type cable driven derailleurs. At least that is how I read between the lines when I picked up my VALA.

 

[lar1337]

SRAM T-Type cable driven derailleurs.......Pure Rumor

If they make one I'll buy it for you

 

[TheMirrorVision]

SRAM T-Type cable driven derailleurs.......Pure Rumor

If they make one I'll buy it for you

Prepare your small bills, there are already pictures of it in the wild!

 

[Doomanic]

SRAM T-Type cable driven derailleurs.......Pure Rumor

If they make one I'll buy it for you

Quoted so you can’t come back and edit in the future…

 

[gbcoke]

A 170/170 Bullit based on the Vala platform is rumored to be coming soon(ish)...

 

[ckkone]

SRAM T-Type cable driven derailleurs.......Pure Rumor

If they make one I'll buy it for you

I won't forget and I have witnesses. I know for a fact unless you find an in stock Vala R or S you won't be able to order till mid March because they will be coming with SRAM T-Type cable driven which hasn't been released yet.

 

[TheMirrorVision]

Maybe @lar1337 can buy each of us Transmission Mechanical once it’s released

 

[lar1337]

Prepare your small bills, there are already pictures of it in the wild!

Yeah I've seen this..... prototypes very rarely come to production (if that is what it is) and are just R&D experiments.

Hope they do though and hope the price is low enough for everyone.

Personally I can't stand adjusting gears again and again due to cable tension.

It's going to be a pinion bike for me once there's more choice out there.

 

[Bndit]

Yeah I've seen this..... prototypes very rarely come to production (if that is what it is) and are just R&D experiments.

Hope they do though and hope the price is low enough for everyone.

Personally I can't stand adjusting gears again and again due to cable tension.

It's going to be a pinion bike for me once there's more choice out there.

I think you have wrong equipement if you have to worrie about adjusting cable tension on your sifter…or you ride 20000km a year? At least Shimano deore, SLX, Linkglide, XT or Sram GX eagle don`t need it, maybe little after break in, but that`s all.

 

[lar1337]

All mechanical group sets are effected by cable stretch and lost indexing.

 

[irie]

All mechanical group sets are effected by cable stretch and lost indexing.

I can only talk about my experience with Shimano 12 speed - whether indexing is or is not lost depends upon the amount of cable stretch and in my experience new cables once bedded in don't stretch enough to loose indexing.

 

[ckkone]

Looks like Santa Cruz updated their website, maybe something new coming soon.......

 

[leroy]

Looks like Santa Cruz updated their website, maybe something new coming soon.......

looks like the prices have gone up on the uk website. vala s spec now £8400, stif cycles are £7600 for s spec or were they always £8400 on the s/c website?