Dengfu E10 - The CHEEB V1.0 - Discussion

[Niklas Kinn]

I thought this was the seat post size, I not sure if the thickness of the carbon frame is similar to an alloy one. In this case it would be 34.9, but I don't know...

sorry i thought you wrote seat post. I unfortunately do not know what seat clamps are.

 

[Tami]

My frame is being shipped next week but yeh they can’t send the battery or motor yet hopefully it don’t take to long be nice to have it sorted in a couple of months

I got my frame first and after 5 weeks the motor and battery(from hungary) the tracking awb does not work you get the info but not where your package is . And then suddenly you have it at your doorsteps

 

[Puschtrale]

I did purchase the 210x55

So you'll have to take care next time with components that are integratedin your videos ??. Thanks Rob for your answer ?

 

[TPEHAK]

Ideally the carbon fiber frame should be coated with UV cured powder coat. This is more durable finish than 2K polyurethane spray paint and clear coat.

Plastics & Composites | Keyland Polymer UV Cured Powder Coatings

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[Puschtrale]

Does anyone know if the frame comes with the bearing cups are already installed and we just need to install the bearings and the spacers?
Can someone give me advice to what parts I'll need for installing my new Rockshox Lyric? Thanks mates ??

 

[Waynemarlow]

Does anyone know if the frame comes with the bearing cups are already installed and we just need to install the bearings and the spacers?
Can someone give me advice to what parts I'll need for installing my new Rockshox Lyric? Thanks mates ??

They are loose in the box, but they are very easily installed by hand, you don't need any special tools.

 

[Puschtrale]

They are loose in the box, but they are very easily installed by hand, you don't need any special tools.

You mean the bearings in the frame for installing the headset? Are they really in the box? Do they not need to be pressend on the upper and lower part of the headset?

 

[Puschtrale]

They come as the usual bearing set, as in bearing cup and bearing + usual fork lower bearing mount and top covers. Mine were an almost perfect hand tight interference fit and unlike a lot of the Ali frames, didn’t need a press.

Thanks man. So thr only components i will need is a zero stack headset tapered, right ??

 

[RyeNiel]

Good idea. Done

Bafang M500 and M600 motors

Hi, New thread started to keep all the Bafang motor stuff organised here. So in my Cheeb build I found the motor power a bit lacking compared to the competition. Bafang contacted me and I’m waiting for some updated firmware with ‘a stronger version of the software to test’ This needs to be...

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Rob, any tips on how to wash the E10 without damaging battery and motor? ?

 

[fdoangulo]

Hi everyone,

I really like this build and I'm thinking about ordering one, but have a few questions:
- What type of changes do you plan for the V2 of the Cheeb? Somewhere you mention about replacing the fork with a 160mm one.
- Have you already tested the new firmware? Impresions?
- When you compare it with the shimano, you refeer to the E8000, or the EP8? As the EP8 seems to improve significantly the E8000.
- Does the anyone know if the M600 already include the Peek plastic gearing to make it quiet? I have read in other forum that bafang has done it, but not sure.
- Does anyone know if there is a solution for a bottle cage? I don't carry my back pack on short rides.
- What about the geo analysis? Can you share your thoughts about the rear suspension design?

I have compared it to the Commencal Meta Power 29 and you can save up to 1500€ with one of their top builds (COMMENCAL 2021 | META POWER 29 TEAM 2021), and geo are pretty similar.

best regards,

 

[DJRumble]

Hi all .

Love this build and Robs videos. Considering my first eMTB. Trying to order a new factory one from anywhere at the moment in Australia is crazy wait times (Orbea Wild FS M10 is June or July delivery) . I have been in touch with Melody at dengfu and got some pricing. They also do a full bike with these specs for a decent price.

I would guess I would need to change the front shock though to 160mm travel and possibly bigger rotors. I am 6."2 and 94kg so need an XL frame. I am trying to decide between M500 and M600. having not ridden eMTB I am unsure what to expect form M600.

Any advice here on this spec? Remembering also that buying group sets in Australia is very tough and expensive. (unlike UK).

Thanks all any advice would be very welcomed and appreciated. I would mostly ride trails and enduro. My downhill days are gone after spinal fusion surgery 18 months ago. Been riding roady since but Rob's video got me thinking I need to get back into some offroad.

Chris

 

[Puschtrale]

Hi all .

Love this build and Robs videos. Considering my first eMTB. Trying to order a new factory one from anywhere at the moment in Australia is crazy wait times (Orbea Wild FS M10 is June or July delivery) . I have been in touch with Melody at dengfu and got some pricing. They also do a full bike with these specs for a decent price.

I would guess I would need to change the front shock though to 160mm travel and possibly bigger rotors. I am 6."2 and 94kg so need an XL frame. I am trying to decide between M500 and M600. having not ridden eMTB I am unsure what to expect form M600.

Any advice here on this spec? Remembering also that buying group sets in Australia is very tough and expensive. (unlike UK).

Thanks all any advice would be very welcomed and appreciated. I would mostly ride trails and enduro. My downhill days are gone after spinal fusion surgery 18 months ago. Been riding roady since but Rob's video got me thinking I need to get back into some offroad.

Chris
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Can you please inform us about the price for the bike as reported?
If you havent yet experience with en Emtb I wouls suggest to first have a try. You should need to know what motor feels best for you and considering that Rob reported the bafang m500 a bit less punchy then shimano e8000. The bafang m600 is only allowed on private land so also this has to be part of your decision process.

Have fun mate ?

 

[CRFan1]

Hi all .

Love this build and Robs videos. Considering my first eMTB. Trying to order a new factory one from anywhere at the moment in Australia is crazy wait times (Orbea Wild FS M10 is June or July delivery) . I have been in touch with Melody at dengfu and got some pricing. They also do a full bike with these specs for a decent price.

I would guess I would need to change the front shock though to 160mm travel and possibly bigger rotors. I am 6."2 and 94kg so need an XL frame. I am trying to decide between M500 and M600. having not ridden eMTB I am unsure what to expect form M600.

Any advice here on this spec? Remembering also that buying group sets in Australia is very tough and expensive. (unlike UK).

Thanks all any advice would be very welcomed and appreciated. I would mostly ride trails and enduro. My downhill days are gone after spinal fusion surgery 18 months ago. Been riding roady since but Rob's video got me thinking I need to get back into some offroad.

Chris
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If you can, get the M600 all the way. More power and metal gears. Not sure how much they enforce the whole motor thing in Aussie land but the M600 is the better motor.

 

[RyeNiel]

If you can, get the M600 all the way. More power and metal gears. Not sure how much they enforce the whole motor thing in Aussie land but the M600 is the better motor.

I did order the m600

 

[Funfunfun]

Quick question....just bought a fox dropper 150*31.6mm for the e10. Is this the right?.

cheer

 

[Pdoz]

Hi all .

Love this build and Robs videos. Considering my first eMTB. Trying to order a new factory one from anywhere at the moment in Australia is crazy wait times (Orbea Wild FS M10 is June or July delivery) . I have been in touch with Melody at dengfu and got some pricing. They also do a full bike with these specs for a decent price.

I would guess I would need to change the front shock though to 160mm travel and possibly bigger rotors. I am 6."2 and 94kg so need an XL frame. I am trying to decide between M500 and M600. having not ridden eMTB I am unsure what to expect form M600.

Any advice here on this spec? Remembering also that buying group sets in Australia is very tough and expensive. (unlike UK).

Thanks all any advice would be very welcomed and appreciated. I would mostly ride trails and enduro. My downhill days are gone after spinal fusion surgery 18 months ago. Been riding roady since but Rob's video got me thinking I need to get back into some offroad.

Chris
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Where in Australia are you?

The m500 / 600 question has legal implications over here - go the m500 if you are concerned about potentially facing court if a kid runs in front of you . If you are in gippsland victoria , one of my nates rides an m600 powered monstrosity with evil geometry, but you could at least experience the motor ( pm me)

btw, 90 mm stem and 760 mm bars should be a warning to check that bikes geometry?

 

[Funfunfun]

31.6mm yes

Magic....thanks

 

[DJRumble]

Where in Australia are you?

The m500 / 600 question has legal implications over here - go the m500 if you are concerned about potentially facing court if a kid runs in front of you . If you are in gippsland victoria , one of my nates rides an m600 powered monstrosity with evil geometry, but you could at least experience the motor ( pm me)

btw, 90 mm stem and 760 mm bars should be a warning to check that bikes geometry?

Very good point...re legality. Not sure I want to hurt someone and not be covered in an accident. Part of me thinks given my first eMTB i should just buy one from a manufacturer and have decent warranty etc... then look to build one myself later.

I can get a Trek Rail 9 2021 with Bosch CX motor .. its not cheap but has good reviews. Would love a Orbea wild FS M10 or Team but they have wait times till July.. Ah decisions..

 

[thaeber]

Hi from Germany! I recently saw the Youtube video from Rob, awesome! Now I try to order the frameset from Dengfu, but it is no longer available on their website. Am I wrong? Did anyone else try to find the frame online? Is there another source to purchase the frame?

Thanks for Your help!

Thomas

 

[Rob Rides EMTB]

Hi from Germany! I recently saw the Youtube video from Rob, awesome! Now I try to order the frameset from Dengfu, but it is no longer available on their website. Am I wrong? Did anyone else try to find the frame online? Is there another source to purchase the frame?

Thanks for Your help!

Thomas

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[Rob Rides EMTB]

..thanks Rob! I do so

Should be pretty sweet setup with X2 and Fox 38.

I'd love to try a coil on the bike too.

 

[thaeber]

To fit the longer shock into the fram, one option would be to use offset bushings. At 6 mm bolts, they offer up to 3 mm adjustment per bushing, resulting in 6mm length compensation if 2 bushings are used. 8 mm more travel at the shock (63 instead of 55) , would mean appr. 20 - 25 mm more travel depending on ratio...

 

[Moderator]

Following a marathon thread tidy, there are now several new threads to make it easier for you to find/discuss the information on the relevant subjects - so don't panic if you think your post has gone - it's most likely been moved, but may have been deleted if it's already been answered :

My Chinese frame and motor build. The CHEEB, V1.0 - Build Thread

This thread is the Official Technical "CHEEB V1.0" build thread. Most of your questions will probably have been answered if you read through the thread, so please take the time to do so before posting a question. If you just want to "Chat CHEEB" there is an alternative thread ...

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Dengfu E10 / Bafang - Buying/Pricing

I'm reading that to mean that frame, motor. crank arms and battery were £1694 all in, is that correct? Correct. Price also includes wiring harness, screen and headset bearings.

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Dengfu E10 Suspension/Wheel Options

I ordered the XL, 510mm in reach. HA is 66 degree but I will run bigger fork and mullet, so likely end up around 64.5 ish. The frame is from Dengfu. They even supply full leverage curve, anti squat, pedal kickback etc graphs and figures! No idea of accuracy, but at least they are included...

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Bafang M500/M600 Tuning & The BESST Tool

You can download the BESST Tool from there, you then need to contact them to obtain an ID/Password : https://bafang-e.com/en/oem-area/service/besst/ They can give you a basic password. But each ID/Password links to their system and has different abilities and can change different things.

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[thaeber]

So now I made it through the whole thread. Recognizing everything I asked was discussed before. Sorry for that. But the result: I want it! I received feedback from Dengfu / Melody allready. Keep you posted!

 

[patdam]

bafang installation manual

 

[Cajos]

Hi. Would this dirt guard be a good idea for the e10 frame or is it not needed? This pic is from a levo. Do the e10 have the similar problem with dirt/snow/pebbles being trapped?

 

[RyeNiel]

bafang installation manual

Thanks

 

[Sunburntwily]

Just need to ask. I am 5'7" or 1.7mtr tall. I have ordered the 17.5" E10 frame. I based the order in one and one only parameter. Reach. According to dialed in riding my ideal reach should be 430mm. So now I'm worried that I have ordered to small. The reach is ok for me, in fact bigger reach is better but no idea how to measure up the bike on other parameters. What do you guys think? Please.

 

[patdam]

Just need to ask. I am 5'7" or 1.7mtr tall. I have ordered the 17.5" E10 frame. I based the order in one and one only parameter. Reach. According to dialed in riding my ideal reach should be 430mm. So now I'm worried that I have ordered to small. The reach is ok for me, in fact bigger reach is better but no idea how to measure up the bike on other parameters. What do you guys think? Please.

impossible to answer at this question for you . Now with the new geometries where reach increase a lot, it is not also simple than before. When you chose your size in fonctions of your legs length.
Now it is mostly in function of your wishes, playful bike or serious bike ? the place where you evoluate bike park or little single with tight pins ?

Following your preferencies you can chose upper size or lower than your usual size. You adjust after the position with lengths of stem, seat post travel, fork pivot, handlebar rise.

i thing you make the good choice to have playfull bike for tight pins. If you want to increase stability, you can perform an asembly alike ROB 150/170, 27.5/29. one advice, do not cut the fork pivot before try and found the correct position.

 

[Waynemarlow]

Hi. Would this dirt guard be a good idea for the e10 frame or is it not needed? This pic is from a levo. Do the e10 have the similar problem with dirt/snow/pebbles being trapped?

As an alternative to the Levo style, I have been using a front mudguard set down between the rear triangle as most of us have been doing plus putting a small piece of foam in the gap between the rear triangle and the main frame, where there is any likelyhood of stones or mud getting into.