Bafang M560

[Tomblarom]

IOT+ / IOT- pins are new.

And they certainly changed a few other things, like moving components and adding filtering capacitors for voltage stablization. (left is M560 january, right is M560 before that)

And obviously they corrected the naming:

 

[Sayonara]

IOT+ / IOT- pins are new.
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And they certainly changed a few other things, like moving components and adding filtering capacitors for voltage stablization. (left is M560 january, right is M560 before that)
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And obviously they corrected the naming:
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I have no knowledge about these electronics. What do you think they tried to achieve or have succeeded with these changes?

 

[Sayonara]

Greenbikekit is advertising new 2024 silent 750w motor.

Bafang M560 /G5300 motor kit 48V 500W-Greenbikekit.com BBS, ebike batteries, Bafang M620, Bafang M600, Bafang M500, Bafang M510, KT controller with display-GreenBikeKit.com

Bafang M560 /G5300 motor kit 48V 500W with light weight and high speed.

www.greenbikekit.com

 

[azure]

Greenbikekit is advertising new 2024 silent 750w motor.

Bafang M560 /G5300 motor kit 48V 500W-Greenbikekit.com BBS, ebike batteries, Bafang M620, Bafang M600, Bafang M500, Bafang M510, KT controller with display-GreenBikeKit.com

Bafang M560 /G5300 motor kit 48V 500W with light weight and high speed.

www.greenbikekit.com

There is nothing more than words... silent version, improved version... but noone has confirmed this.
I would like to remind that version from January 2024 was supposed to be quiet.

 

[Dado]

I am affraid will be silent only with nylon gear. They can do M600 silent (even more then M510), so where is problem. I would say 22A that nylon could handle.

But is funny how they stating it is silent, and actually is not.

 

[azure]

I am affraid will be silent only with nylon gear. They can do M600 silent (even more then M510), so where is problem. I would say 22A that nylon could handle.

But is funny how they stating it is silent, and actually is not.

We agreed here few days ago that it is only marketing for now... and I agree with you that there is no chance to make this engine silent without changing material of the gear.
I think that Bafang sees no other option than to claim that they have done something to improve problem with noise... but this is road to nowhere.

 

[Sayonara]

I received a video of the motor running but not sure how to link it here..

Motors supply from April. It seems that nothing has changed.
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It has these same codes on the label though

 

[MrKO4]

I received a video of the motor running but not sure how to link it here..



It has these same codes on the label though

Just post the link. I am interested as I have a 560 motor for my new build.

 

[Sayonara]

Just post the link. I am interested as I have a 560 motor for my new build.

I got it via whatsapp. Not a www link. Someone linked a vid of the motor sound earlier though

 

[MrKO4]

ahhh I gotcha. I have seen videos of the M560 sounding pretty mild and of them really loud. I'm nervous. My first ebike and I dont want to be that guy on the trail everyone can hear.
If mine is loud I will just order a 510 for the time until a new gear is made. I also read it gets quieter over time.

 

[Sayonara]

ahhh I gotcha. I have seen videos of the M560 sounding pretty mild and of them really loud. I'm nervous. My first ebike and I dont want to be that guy on the trail everyone can hear.
If mine is loud I will just order a 510 for the time until a new gear is made. I also read it gets quieter over time.

I think the 500w version is silent because it has nylon gear? 750w is louder (steel gear) but not terrible imo. And yes I have also heard that it get less noisy over time.

The difference between 500w and 750w version is 10Nm only? Not sure if the rpm is the same. 500w has 120Nm and 750w 130Nm.

In the vid I received it's about the same or little but more noise than bbshd.

 

[azure]

ahhh I gotcha. I have seen videos of the M560 sounding pretty mild and of them really loud. I'm nervous. My first ebike and I dont want to be that guy on the trail everyone can hear.
If mine is loud I will just order a 510 for the time until a new gear is made. I also read it gets quieter over time.

Where did you find so optimistic way of thinking that bafang will produce silent gears... Wow!
I think that they do not know how to achieve it

 

[azure]

I think the 500w version is silent because it has nylon gear? 750w is louder (steel gear) but not terrible imo. And yes I have also heard that it get less noisy over time.

The difference between 500w and 750w version is 10Nm only? Not sure if the rpm is the same. 500w has 120Nm and 750w 130Nm.

In the vid I received it's about the same or little but more noise than bbshd.

500W has metal gears, not nylon.

 

[Sayonara]

500W has metal gears, not nylon.

Oh they both have? I thought only 750w version has it

 

[azure]

Oh they both have? I thought only 750w version has it

No, both metal.

 

[mmcarm]

Rode a new M560 at Sea Otter Classic event this weekend (not sure 500W or 750W) from the Bafang booth and it was just a little louder than an M600 with nylon gear but wasn't too annoying for my ear. Bafang unfortunately doesn't do quieter helical cut gears but the angle cut gears if greased well may be ok.

 

[azure]

Rode a new M560 at Sea Otter Classic event this weekend (not sure 500W or 750W) from the Bafang booth and it was just a little louder than an M600 with nylon gear but wasn't too annoying for my ear. Bafang unfortunately doesn't do quieter helical cut gears but the angle cut gears if greased well may be ok.

It is interesting from what batch was this motor.

 

[mmcarm]

Sorry didn't check labels on the motor. They said current production, quieter than first run.

 

[Sayonara]

Rode a new M560 at Sea Otter Classic event this weekend (not sure 500W or 750W) from the Bafang booth and it was just a little louder than an M600 with nylon gear but wasn't too annoying for my ear. Bafang unfortunately doesn't do quieter helical cut gears but the angle cut gears if greased well may be ok.

How did the motor feel to ride? Where you able to test it on some hills or just flat ground?

 

[mmcarm]

Yes took it up a steep bank and it had some more power than a stock M600. Just a few minutes ride so just got a rough impression. Didn't get a sense of how much more.

 

[Sayonara]

Apparently 500w has max 20A current and 750w max 25A.

 

[rfarsocal]

Got the latest April 2024 version of M560 and will report back on how it performs. I had M600 Ludicrous v1 before and immediate difference is weight. Missed on that it uses M16 crank bolts so not tested it yet until they arrive.



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[Dado]

Hello. That left and right bolts does not play a big role. You can ride without. Just hit peddals with a hammer and tighten 4 bolts.

 

[rfarsocal]

Oh well, it didn't go as planned, M560 starts for 30 seconds and then automatically turning off the whole display and motor and everything. Has to be problem with M560 as i haven't seen that with M600. Just to make sure its not batter i connected back M600 and it works perfectly fine. So contacting Bafang as to what's the issue is with M560. Not sure if anyone on forum had similar issue.

 

[Dado]

30 seconds is new record. )

 

[azure]

This is a side effect of the volume reduction it is total silent now !

Bravo Bafang ;-)

No kidding perhaps it is a driver-panel issue? Do you use panel from M560 or some else, older?

 

[Dado]

Right, u made it total silent now. ) Dont know what is driver panel....

 

[rfarsocal]

Haha for those eternal 30 seconds, I was able to ride it and it does seems to be very quite and has good amount of power... Drill is to reach for power button every 30 seconds

I tried different display as well but nothing worked. Going to update firmware today to see if that fixes the issue.

 

[Sayonara]

Haha for those eternal 30 seconds, I was able to ride it and it does seems to be very quite and has good amount of power... Drill is to reach for power button every 30 seconds

I tried different display as well but nothing worked. Going to update firmware today to see if that fixes the issue.

Are you sure that the battery is supposed to work with that motor? Maybe they are not compatible with each other.

Bafang (and DengFu, LightCarbon and others) are going to be in the China Cycle 2024 next week. Maybe we will see some new stuff!

 

[rfarsocal]

Are you sure that the battery is supposed to work with that motor? Maybe they are not compatible with each other.

Bafang (and DengFu, LightCarbon and others) are going to be in the China Cycle 2024 next week. Maybe we will see some new stuff!

Why would it be different? It works fine with M600 motor and ultimately pushing same amps as it requires.