Bafang M560

[Dado]

When is there a big ebike seller, he ask Bafang to compile custom firmware and also will tell them what battery capacity they gonna use. Bafang will hardcode this and compile firmware.

 

[boom boom]

Hello every one i have a question concerning the m560 .
I have the m600 and i m facing the problem that it s too much power at level one (250 watt ).
So i want ask you how much power you have with the m560 at level one ?
thanks

 

[dvng]

Hello every one i have a question concerning the m560 .
I have the m600 and i m facing the problem that it s too much power at level one (250 watt ).
So i want ask you how much power you have with the m560 at level one ?
thanks

Half of 250w is probably the sweet spot. Its the ramp up that makes it feels too much. I ramp it down to Level 1.

 

[temon10]

Hello every one i have a question concerning the m560 .
I have the m600 and i m facing the problem that it s too much power at level one (250 watt ).
So i want ask you how much power you have with the m560 at level one ?
thanks

m560 can be tuned via besst pro and it's start smoother.

 

[Waynemarlow]

Hello every one i have a question concerning the m560 .
I have the m600 and i m facing the problem that it s too much power at level one (250 watt ).
So i want ask you how much power you have with the m560 at level one ?
thanks

The M600 had greater than 250W as its initial boost unfortunately and then settled back to about 250W's. About around >60W's is the break point when riding with analogue riders as in you need a minimum of 60W's on the heavier bike + motor internal drag to keep up. 150W's is super trail friendly on flat paths with max distance.

 

[Dado]

Boom, and I will add, you wont do anything with this on M600. It is all here hardcoded.

 

[boom boom]

The M600 had greater than 250W as its initial boost unfortunately and then settled back to about 250W's. About around >60W's is the break point when riding with analogue riders as in you need a minimum of 60W's on the heavier bike + motor internal drag to keep up. 150W's is super trail friendly on flat paths with max distance.

Sorry i had to say it . The m600 is terrible engine . After 2engine broke (torque sensor) i finally sold my 3 one .

So the bigest probleme for me was when you pedale in speed 1 ,you have a peak at 250 sometimes 350 wat it s very randon then go down to 80 watt . Witch make the bike riding in city very dangerous and dificult to controle . Even jumping the sidewalk was dangerous when you get the kick of 350 watt at the reception i can tell you better no one walk infront .
And soon as you stop pedalling and start pedal again the engine kick power again for a couple of second . SUPER ANOYING .
BTW i test all the firmware as possible on internet none of them solve the probleme .
The only thinks i like of the m600 it s super quiet .

So now i will have to make a decition to buy the m560 or the m510 .
The most important thinks for me is progressive and smooth powerat low speed .
like
Level1 50-140 watt progressive not sudenly
Level2 100- 230watt
level3 200-350watt
level 4 300-450watt
level5 400- Ful power


Witch one do you think it will feet the best ?

 

[Dado]

Sorry i had to say it . The m600 is terrible engine . After 2engine broke (torque sensor) i finally sold my 3 one .

So the bigest probleme for me was when you pedale in speed 1 ,you have a peak at 250 sometimes 350 wat it s very randon then go down to 80 watt . Witch make the bike riding in city very dangerous and dificult to controle . Even jumping the sidewalk was dangerous when you get the kick of 350 watt at the reception i can tell you better no one walk infront .
And soon as you stop pedalling and start pedal again the engine kick power again for a couple of second . SUPER ANOYING .
BTW i test all the firmware as possible on internet none of them solve the probleme .
The only thinks i like of the m600 it s super quiet .

So now i will have to make a decition to buy the m560 or the m510 .
The most important thinks for me is progressive and smooth powerat low speed .
like
Level1 50-140 watt progressive not sudenly
Level2 100- 230watt
level3 200-350watt
level 4 300-450watt
level5 400- Ful power


Witch one do you think it will feet the best ?

Yep, you wont find better firmware for M600. It was not a bad motor, just was not pre-set optimally. And all hardcoded.
If you looking for more power go for M560. Here you can set everything. Max power (so even max 50W at PAS 1), Sensitivity to pedalling (multiplication of pedalling power) and Acceleration (power ramp up time 0.25 to 2.5 s for smoother starts - of course I have set everything to level 8 - fastest starts ).

 

[boom boom]

Yep, you wont find better firmware for M600. It was not a bad motor, just was not pre-set optimally. And all hardcoded.
If you looking for more power go for M560. Here you can set everything. Max power (so even max 50W at PAS 1), Sensitivity to pedalling (multiplication of pedalling power) and Acceleration (power ramp up time 0.25 to 2.5 s).

thank s a lot . Let s go for new m560 . Soon as i receive it i will let you know my feed back .

 

[Dado]

Thast powerfull as DJI and little more. Great motor and not that load as on videos with action cam.

 

[guga06]

Thast powerfull as DJI and little more. Great motor and not that load as on videos with action cam.

Dear @Dado,

Hope everything is OK mate.
Can you kindly share your custom configs for the M560, in order to make it perform similar to Bosch CX/DJI ?

That would be great.

Thanks in advance !
Gus

 

[Dado]

Dear @Dado,

Hope everything is OK mate.
Can you kindly share your custom configs for the M560, in order to make it perform similar to Bosch CX/DJI ?

That would be great.

Thanks in advance !
Gus

Hello Guga.

I am affraid it will never behave as Bosch or DJI. I mean smooth support to pedalling.
M560, has set default max power levels to 20,40,60,80,100% - which is Ok to me. I did lowered a little Assistance level % for me. And I put Acceleration to max. It is making more stress to drivetrain, but more fun. I dont like slow ramp up of power - at level 1 it is even 2.5 seconds.

 

[Tjhell]

You need DPC245 v3.0 and also good firmware there - v1.2 works. And maybe also correct controller firmware.

Anyway that version 7.4 you have I am not sure if is OK, that 7.4 versions was very first beta test version. I would reflash to 25A (instead of your 19A) version - much more fun.

Hello @Dado Please can you tell me where to get the firmware version I need? I borrowed a Bafang Besst tool from my friend but i'm assuming I need a local file to upload?

Also, is it possible to backup existing FW to revert back to if there are problems? And, will this work with my current display or is buying a new one essential?

Thanks
Tom

 

[Szymon8422]

Hello, do you know the maximum current (in amps) for the front light on the Bafang M560? I have a Supernova with 1.5 A consupcion and it works but i I wonder how much the maximum can be.

 

[Dado]

Hello @Dado Please can you tell me where to get the firmware version I need? I borrowed a Bafang Besst tool from my friend but i'm assuming I need a local file to upload?

Also, is it possible to backup existing FW to revert back to if there are problems? And, will this work with my current display or is buying a new one essential?

Thanks
Tom

Hello Tom.

Yes, that update from cloud does not work in Besst. You need to have a bin file, find in M560 threads.

Not possible to get firmware from the controller over CAN bus - this routine is not defined. So if you wanna revert back you need to have that specific bin file. (Is possible to download and extract firmware file from the microcomputer after opening motor thoug).

Sure will work with your display. Does not matter about display.

 

[Dado]

Hello, do you know the maximum current (in amps) for the front light on the Bafang M560? I have a Supernova with 1.5 A consupcion and it works but i I wonder how much the maximum can be.

Hello, Bafang did changed to 12v and 0.5A (was 6V and 0.5A) - so definitelly you not going full power with 1.5A light.
Get a DC/DC convertor and cable it directly to battery over a switch (to avoid discharging battery).