Bafang M560

[_gregor]

Looks pretty much identical to the previous M510/M560 controllers. Mostlikely only firmware and maybe some internal changes of the gearing.

Who are these images from, if you do not make them?

This controller photo is taken by me. The controller is from my m560 engine, updated version from early 2024. Now another version has come out and I posted a photo of the sticker sent by a seller from China.

 

[Tomblarom]

I see. Thanks for clearifying. Your controller looks already different to mine (see here).

I'm curious how the controller from the chinese seller looks like.

 

[Mara2000]

Hello everyone. I received my m560 engine, 750W version. The first quick test on the table and it turns out that it is not that loud at all. Of course, it is not as quiet as the m600 and will not be due to the use of a steel gear. After disassembling it, it turns out that there is a controller with the new marking M560. As for the grease, it is also good - the grease is well distributed everywhere and there is the right amount of it, unlike in the case of my m620 where there was very little grease. The engine will be mounted in a Dengu E82 frame with a 48V 1008Wh battery. Unfortunately, I'm still waiting for the frame and battery.

Controller info:
Hardware version: MM G5300.750.C 1.0
Software version: MMG5300C4825F801001.4

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Link to video:
m560 test

Test from 10 cm distance:
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Test from 50 cm distance:
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Test from 100 cm distance:
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Hi, I was wondering if the nylon gear for the M600 fits on the M560 for noise reduction. The motor is really noisy under load and at high rpm speed: https://www.google.com/search?q=BAFANG+M500+M510+M600+Motor+Nylon+Gear&oq=BAFANG+M500+M510+M600+Motor+Nylon+Gear&gs_lcrp=EgZjaHJvbWUyBggAEEUYOTIKCAEQABiABBiiBDIKCAIQABiABBiiBDIKCAMQABiABBiiBDIKCAQQABiABBiiBDIKCAUQABiABBiiBDIGCAYQRRg9MgYIBxBFGD3SAQczMjJqMGo0qAIAsAIB&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

 

[Tomblarom]

Hi, I was wondering if the nylon gear for the M600 fits on the M560 for noise reduction

Nope it does not, unless you replace rotor and 1st gear. From 2nd gear on, they have the same teeth count. See my spreadsheet here: Bafang Mxxx Mid-Drive Overview (huge Google Sheet)

 

[Mara2000]

Nope it does not, unless you replace rotor and 1st gear. From 2nd gear on, they have the same teeth count. See my spreadsheet here: Bafang Mxxx Mid-Drive Overview (huge Google Sheet)

Ok thank you! So i temporarily switch from M560 to M600 until nylon gear will be available. The loud noise of M560 is really terrible.

 

[LAnton]

Ok thank you! So i temporarily switch from M560 to M600 until nylon gear will be available. The loud noise of M560 is really terrible.

The noise is annoying when driving on a flat road. On a rocky road, the noise is no longer very audible

 

[Sayonara]

it looks like another version of this engine has been released with new firmware 001.5

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Anyone found any info on this new firmware?

I just got an email from fltebike.com saying that the motor is currently being discontinued.

2nd email said "still in testing, unable to order".

 

[_gregor]

Anyone found any info on this new firmware?

I just got an email from fltebike.com saying that the motor is currently being discontinued.

It's starting to get interesting...

 

[Sayonara]

it looks like another version of this engine has been released with new firmware 001.5

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bafang replied with this to attached picture, "this motor is still in internal testing and optimization, this is the number of the internal prototype, it has no real meaning.".

FYI Not directly to me as I have no connections to bafang.

 

[Mara2000]

Last news from Chili: the shape of metal gear was changed and rotor replaced for noise reduction in last batch, so they work on it.

 

[azure]

It could be only marketing...

 

[Tomblarom]

It could be only marketing...

Yes, no proof until now.

 

[_gregor]

I rode about 20 km. Yes it is loud, but after these 20 km it became quieter. I think that after 200 km it will be even quieter, as it was in my m620. Only 2% of the battery was consumed (mixed mode econ/sport/boost).

 

[Dado]

If somebody wants to try 500W firmware from February... dont have M560 in a bike.

 

[_gregor]

If somebody wants to try 500W firmware from February... dont have M560 in a bike.

Will try to flash my 750W version with this firmware. What could go wrong

 

[Sayonara]

Moved to E82 thread

 

[azure]

Motors supply from April. It seems that nothing has changed.

 

[_gregor]

 

[azure]

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Im really curious from what distance it was measured... and how many dB has other motors from i.e. Bosch, Brose. 65dB seems to be high noise.

 

[Tomblarom]

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Just the translation using Google Lens:

 

[azure]

Just the translation using Google Lens:
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In My opinion they do nothing to reduce noise. 60-70dB is still veeery loud.

 

[Dado]

And be careful, each 3dB is twice as loud.

 

[Dado]

Motors supply from April. It seems that nothing has changed.
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Sticker did change.

 

[azure]

Noone has new batch motor? Maybe someone will share his impressions.

 

[Tomblarom]

Chili just posted about it, on her Facebook, that she has the new stock. I can't believe Bafang really changed anything, until I see the controller.

I received the newest firmware and for 750W they limited it to 25A instead of 30A. And the bootloader for 750W is 0x74, so it can't be easily converted from 500W to 750W, by updating with BESST, anymore.

Note: The 73_MMG5300C4819F801007.4_G5300_500W_45_29-2293_Git-a85a2f7a_20240202_1003.bin is 100% identical to the file, that @Dado recently posted here #194!

 

[_gregor]

Chili just posted about it, on her Facebook, that she has the new stock. I can't believe Bafang really changed anything, until I see the controller.

I received the newest firmware and for 750W they limited it to 25A instead of 30A. And the bootloader for 750W is 0x74, so it can't be easily converted from 500W to 750W, by updating with BESST, anymore.

Note: The 73_MMG5300C4819F801007.4_G5300_500W_45_29-2293_Git-a85a2f7a_20240202_1003.bin is 100% identical to the file, that @Dado recently posted here #194!

Chili just posted about it, on her Facebook, that she has the new stock. I can't believe Bafang really changed anything, until I see the controller.

I received the newest firmware and for 750W they limited it to 25A instead of 30A. And the bootloader for 750W is 0x74, so it can't be easily converted from 500W to 750W, by updating with BESST, anymore.

Note: The 73_MMG5300C4819F801007.4_G5300_500W_45_29-2293_Git-a85a2f7a_20240202_1003.bin is 100% identical to the file, that @Dado recently posted here #194!

I'ts february firmware, nothing new. I've got it in my m560 from previous batch already. I also suspect that only the sticker has changed...

 

[azure]

@Tomblarom has engine produced in 2023.
@_gregor you have from January 2024. Let's compare internal gears and other elements... I'm near sure that everything is the same

 

[_gregor]

Below are pictures of my m560 from second batch (2024)

 

[Tomblarom]

From what I can tell so far: Looks pretty much the same. Can you send images from the downside of the controller? Be carefull to not rip the cooling paste-pad appart. There is something like ECU_M560_BAFANG_.....

Also you need to count the gears. I did that on mine and placed it in my Mxxx sheet.

 

[_gregor]

From what I can tell so far: Looks pretty much the same. Can you send images from the downside of the controller? Be carefull to not rip the cooling paste-pad appart. There is something like ECU_M560_BAFANG_.....

Also you need to count the gears. I did that on mine and placed it in my Mxxx sheet.