What did you buy your ebike this week?

[steve_sordy]

Bloody hell what a load of tosh, bought a syringe of eBay and tubing to go from said syringe to valve ( with valve core removed ) injecting Stans sealant to bead seated rims……..what could be easier……… it’s not rocket science.

It must be the sealant used then. Does Stans have bits in it?

 

[Stihldog]

It must be the sealant used then. Does Stans have bits in it?

The Stans sealant seems to be a little thicker … no chunks or bits that I’ve noticed. The MucOff sealant looks and feels like small chopped up wool
pieces along with the fluid. The Bontrager sealant looks to have small particles (blue bits) along with thick fluid.

Certain types of sealant will not pass through the Filmore valve because the bits and chunks get trapped in the internal spring during a syringe injection.

 

[irie]

The Stans sealant seems to be a little thicker … no chunks or bits that I’ve noticed. The MucOff sealant looks and feels like small chopped up wool
pieces along with the fluid. The Bontrager sealant looks to have small particles (blue bits) along with thick fluid.

Certain types of sealant will not pass through the Filmore valve because the bits and chunks get trapped in the internal spring during a syringe injection.

I took a Fillmore valve to pieces to measure it for the below post - there is no spring in it.

Bye-bye Fillmore valves

As said here: What did you buy your ebike this week? Bought four new Presta valves. Why? Changed four tyres and at same time fitted Fillmore valves. Clogged up several times while injecting Muc-Off tubeless sealant, probably due to Muc-Off sealant particle size. After fitting Fillmore valves...

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[Stihldog]

I took a Fillmore valve to pieces to measure it for the below post - there is no spring in it.

Bye-bye Fillmore valves

As said here: What did you buy your ebike this week? Bought four new Presta valves. Why? Changed four tyres and at same time fitted Fillmore valves. Clogged up several times while injecting Muc-Off tubeless sealant, probably due to Muc-Off sealant particle size. After fitting Fillmore valves...

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Hmmm? I wonder how it’s clogging up then? Smallish passage, internal mechanisms?

I’ve never had success with injecting some sealants through the Filmore valve. After 10-20ml it clogs up. Now I just pour 80-100ml of sealant directly into the tire (1 bead off).

I really thought it was a spring but I guess the psi keeps the plunger valve closed.

 

[irie]

Hmmm? I wonder how it’s clogging up then? Smallish passage, internal mechanisms?

I’ve never had success with injecting some sealants through the Filmore valve. After 10-20ml it clogs up. Now I just pour 80-100ml of sealant directly into the tire (1 bead off).

I really thought it was a spring but I guess the psi keeps the plunger valve closed.

Answer: Fillmore valve 1mm internal passage is self-evidently too small for a sealant with a larger particle size.

Being required to pour sealant directly into a bead-off tyre in order to get around a Fillmore valve design problem is taking the piss. Not for me, as said before it's back to Presta valves, at least the cores can be easily removed.

 

[irie]

I really thought it was a spring but I guess the psi keeps the plunger valve closed.

Sorry, missed this ^^^

There's a thread on the top of the Fillmore poppet valve and a matching thread inside the cap. When the cap is screwed on it pulls up the poppet valve thus closing it.

 

[2WHLFUN]

Magic Mary Radial Tyres, Peatys valves + STANS NOTUBES Core Remover

Can't wait to try these.


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Want to hear about your experience with these tires please

 

[The EMF]

It must be the sealant used then. Does Stans have bits in it?

No Steve it doesn’t,, I’ve used Stans for
years and never had an issue…..

 

[RustyMTB]

Stans easily injects through a Presta valve with the core removed. It's not gritty or has particles in it but if you want to reuse the syringe, wash it out after or the residue will dry to little rubber lumps & you'll be off to Ebay before you can say rim tape.

 

[p3eps]

Here's the inside of the tyre from my Stumpy 6-Fattie that I just kept pouring around 100ml of Stans into every 3 or 4 months! I always just popped the bead and poured it in. The bike didn't move for about 6 months - as I had it on a Kickr for winter. When I went to ride it again, the wheel went thump, thump, thump.

Turns out there was a sealant monster created - a HUGE lump of solidified latex
The inside of the tyre looks like something from Alien

 

[RustyMTB]

The famous Stanimal

 

[Stihldog]

Stans easily injects through a Presta valve with the core removed. It's not gritty or has particles in it but if you want to reuse the syringe, wash it out after or the residue will dry to little rubber lumps & you'll be off to Ebay before you can say rim tape.

I only have experience with MucOff, Bontrager and Stan’s sealants. I’m on my third jug of MucOff, 1st jug of Bontrager And my neighbour has a jug of Stan’s. Another neighbor uses some “orange stuff”, that he provides in single use quantities. It’s just thick…no particles.



Besides hand and floor pumps I mostly use a shop compressor (150psi) for tire changes. I don’t mix or contaminate sealants with each other. Filling containers are easily cleaned after use. I haven’t seen a Filmore valve fail but I’ve seen different issues with conventional presta valves. Sometimes those are easy to fix …just replace the valve core. Other times I’ve seen the small vent holes completely clogged with sealant (looks like a small coliflower). Sometimes air will not go in or out.

Bike mechanics, at a LBS, probably have their preference of sealant and have likely seen it all. I watched them use the garbage bin/can technique …hey! I got one of those.

My preference is MucOff sealant with Filmore valves. I quickly found out that this sealant cannot be injected through the Filmore valve

Sometimes a Filmore valve doesn’t play well with a CushCore, whereas a conventional presta valve will. (Side vent).

 

[The EMF]

The famous Stanimal

A STAN-BERG……

 

[Timbo]

Eddy current super gravity, Hope bronze/orange valve, Stans race sealent (still inside tyre), new caliper pads and disc, first time bleeding brakes for me, worked ok.

 

[Stihldog]

A STAN-BERG……

Looks like the cutoff sleeve of my
“Stan-Field” work sweater when I forgot to bring TP paper. Yup! That’s happened to me before. You gotta do what you gotta do.

 

[irie]

... I quickly found out that this sealant cannot be injected through the Filmore valve.

Recently chucked money at 2 pairs of Fillmore valves for our bikes then found that out.

Bye-bye Fillmore valves

As said here: What did you buy your ebike this week? Bought four new Presta valves. Why? Changed four tyres and at same time fitted Fillmore valves. Clogged up several times while injecting Muc-Off tubeless sealant, probably due to Muc-Off sealant particle size. After fitting Fillmore valves...

www.emtbforums.com

 

[steve_sordy]

Here's the inside of the tyre from my Stumpy 6-Fattie that I just kept pouring around 100ml of Stans into every 3 or 4 months! I always just popped the bead and poured it in. The bike didn't move for about 6 months - as I had it on a Kickr for winter. When I went to ride it again, the wheel went thump, thump, thump.

Turns out there was a sealant monster created - a HUGE lump of solidified latex
The inside of the tyre looks like something from Alien
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Here's mine., a 3-D starfish! I could hear it rumbling inside the tyre.

 

[JonnyManc]

Finally got my Fox 38 Performance Elite's fitted.....

 

[Stihldog]

Turns out there was a sealant monster created - a HUGE lump of solidified latex
The inside of the tyre looks like something from Alien
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A tire I fixed wasn’t that bad but the Bontrager sealant had completely dried. This was the original Bontrager alloy rim on my nephews Trek. He bent the rim edge so it would no longer hold air. Of course he had a race in Whistler the next day . I lent him one of my spare wheels (complete) just to get him ready. I decided to try and fix his front wheel later that week.



It took a while but eventually I straightened the rim edge with some weird pliers. Reinstalled his tire, added some Bontrager sealant (150ml injected through the presta valve).


Inflated to 35psi, spun the wheel and started checking for leaks. Damm! Some air was escaping at the dent and the side joint of the rim edge. Spin the wheel some more and hope the sealant does its job. Success .

The joint on the rim is a concern and I would recommend replacing the rim. But it seems to work. He works now (plumber helper) so he can bare the cost of a new rim.






This is him riding down A-Line in Whistler, a few years ago.

Yeah, I think he needs a better rim.

 

[Amber Valley Guy]

Some All Weather Chain Lube from Lidl (UK) for £3.99, they also have wet lube and various bike cleaners all at the same £3.99. Worth a try for four quid.

 

[Zed.]

£10 of Lottery tickets (5) as I'm bored of not being a millionare -- when I'm loaded I can buy bike bits

Rich.

 

[EMTBSEAN]

£10 of Lottery tickets (5) as I'm bored of not being a millionare -- when I'm loaded I can buy bike bits

Rich.

Good luck pal, personally I’d spend the £10 directly on your bike, there’s more chance of growing a fanny than winning the lotto

 

[The EMF]

Or you could buy a fanny…..in Turkey

 

[EMTBSEAN]

Or you could buy a fanny…..in Turkey

Not for a tenner, maybe 15 quid but not a tenner

 

[The EMF]

Not for a tenner, maybe 15 quid but not a tenner

 

[Zed.]

Good luck pal, personally I’d spend the £10 directly on your bike

should have, 'won' 2 x lucky (or unlucky) dips




Rich.

 

[The EMF]

Some All Weather Chain Lube from Lidl (UK) for £3.99, they also have wet lube and various bike cleaners all at the same £3.99. Worth a try for four quid.

I also bought lube from Lidl…….
True Tension lubes are my “go to”
Chain lube, I also bought disc cleaner and bike wash…….ummm maybe I should have posted this

 

[Tubby G]

OK, so this isn’t for the bike, rather for the rider, but it’s so great I feel compelled to write about it.

7Mesh Chilco hoodie / anorak

Not cheap at full list price (£170) but luckily I managed to grab a bargain in a recent flash sale they had. Now that I’ve worn it riding, I’d say it’s well worth the investment even at full price. It’s super comfortable, warm, blocks wind, mud splash and light rain resistant, breathes great, not heavy or too thick, it’s just bang on perfect. The hood sits perfectly on the helmet and provides plenty of ear coverage whilst still giving all round vision. I wouldn’t normally promote an item of clothing like this but it’s so good I feel I have to shout about it. Cold days’ riding will become fun again with this on your body! I’ve been wearing it all weekend, on & off the bike. Don’t want to take it off.

https://www.7mesh.com/products/mens-chilco-anorak-sale

https://www.7mesh.com/products/mens-chilco-anorak

 

[Stihldog]

OK, so this isn’t for the bike, rather for the rider, but it’s so great I feel compelled to write about it.

7Mesh Chilco hoodie / anorak

Not cheap at full list price (£170) but luckily I managed to grab a bargain in a recent flash sale they had. Now that I’ve worn it riding, I’d say it’s well worth the investment even at full price. It’s super comfortable, warm, blocks wind, mud splash and light rain resistant, breathes great, not heavy or too thick, it’s just bang on perfect. The hood sits perfectly on the helmet and provides plenty of ear coverage whilst still giving all round vision. I wouldn’t normally promote an item of clothing like this but it’s so good I feel I have to shout about it. Cold days’ riding will become fun again with this on your body! I’ve been wearing it all weekend, on & off the bike. Don’t want to take it off.

https://www.7mesh.com/products/mens-chilco-anorak-sale

https://www.7mesh.com/products/mens-chilco-anorak

I guess it’s that time of the year to start thinking about apparel. I have the usual assortment of rain gear or winter gear suitable for our changing climate. But layering is important when the mornings are chilly and the afternoon heats up. I underdress and overdress all the time.

My wife bought me a couple of LuluLemon hoodies last year and I basically threw them to the side. Then I started wearing them as the weather changed. My helmet can fit over the hoodie and it’s barely noticeable when I don’t need it.

I’ve never set foot in this store (LuluLemon) but apparently they have a fairly good selection now of men’s athletic clothing.

I think it’s just a CDN store …kinda like “Roots”.

 

[VWsurfbum]

I guess it’s that time of the year to start thinking about apparel. I have the usual assortment of rain gear or winter gear suitable for our changing climate. But layering is important when the mornings are chilly and the afternoon heats up. I underdress and overdress all the time.

My wife bought me a couple of LuluLemon hoodies last year and I basically threw them to the side. Then I started wearing them as the weather changed. My helmet can fit over the hoodie and it’s barely noticeable when I don’t need it.

I’ve never set foot in this store (LuluLemon) but apparently they have a fairly good selection now of men’s athletic clothing.

I think it’s just a CDN store …kinda like “Roots”.

I just looked it up, my god who pays that for a hoodie? that's 5 maybe 6 hoodies from PriMarny !
I'm tight when it comes to buy "Norm" clothes as I ruin stuff pretty quick with oil stains or snags on sharp objects from around the cave.