Trek rail rear shock upgrade ideas please

[mark022]

I'm new here i would like to ask everyone if someone try this option for the coil shock , Rockshox VIVID coil trunnion mount 205x60 with 25mm shock craft lift kit if the spring or collar of the shock will not touch in between rocker mount?

 

[mark022]

I wanted to fit a Super Deluxe, so I made this yoke to lenghten 205 trunnion to 230. Works good.

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do you think the trunnion coil version will fit?

 

[Paulquattro]

do you think the trunnion coil version will fit?

Trunnion will fit ,
Some rails have trunnion some don't they all use the same rockers thou so there interchangeable with the correct fitting kit

 

[mark022]

I've shamelessly nicked this idea and come up with a MK2 version that bolts straight onto the lower trunnion mount.... View attachment 51411

if put in vivid coil the spring will fi in between the rockers since the shock's body will move up by 25mm?

 

[mark022]

Trunnion will fit ,
Some rails have trunnion some don't they all use the same rockers thou so there interchangeable with the correct fitting kit

The collar and spring will move up there is enough spce in between the rocker?

 

[mark022]

Putting all the info I found in one post.

Trek rail 9.8 2021 Large Came stock with trunion rockshox shock which started leaking in a week.

Installed fox dhx2 230x65. Cannot run in low setting seat post hits. Reservoir clears in both settings.


bolts are 1mm shorter than shock + spacers
Fox mounting hardware. Upper shock bolt is 54mm shock width + 2x8mm spacer plus linkage = 70mm but 69mm bolt


Bolts


TR540755

TR599900

hardware
• Upper: 10mm x 54mm 803-03-311
• Lower: 10mm x 40mm 803-03-329

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on the mounting kit dont use the plastic bushing you need to put the du bushing

 

[mark022]

Trunnion will fit ,
Some rails have trunnion some don't they all use the same rockers thou so there interchangeable with the correct fitting kit

on this area the collar and spring will not touch i will use the normal rockshox spring

 

[HeyHey]

I have asked two retailers for the coil Öhlins shock what to order but does not get a clear answer. One of the reatailers claim that a 65 can be shimmed to 57,5. Maybe one of you can help.

If I order a 65 stroke. Can I shim it down to 57,5 (or 60 if I feel brave)?
How do I do that?

Big thanks!

 

[irie]

I have asked two retailers for the coil Öhlins shock what to order but does not get a clear answer. One of the reatailers claim that a 65 can be shimmed to 57,5. Maybe one of you can help.

If I order a 65 stroke. Can I shim it down to 57,5 (or 60 if I feel brave)?
How do I do that?

Big thanks!

Is your shock trunnion or eye-to-eye?

If eye-to-eye the shims (spacers) are 2.5mm so you can shim the 65 shock down to 62.5, 60.0, and 57.5. Is what I have on my 2022 Trek Rail 5.

 

[HeyHey]

Is your shock trunnion or eye-to-eye?

If eye-to-eye the shims (spacers) are 2.5mm so you can shim the 65 shock down to 62.5, 60.0, and 57.5. Is what I have on my 2022 Trek Rail 5.

Eye to eye. Ok, thanks! Did you get the shims in the box?

 

[irie]

Eye to eye. Ok, thanks! Did you get the shims in the box?

Bought from TF Tuned - came from them with the 3 shims pre-installed so the shock was standard 57.5mm.

Edit: but have since tried 60mm and 62.5mm but have stayed with 57.5mm which works nicely with the forks (Lyrik Ultimate MY23). Am 5'10/75kg with a 525lb spring. Tried a 500lb spring which felt too soft, the 525lb felt better for where I mostly ride (South Downs) so stayed with it.

 

[mark022]

I removed the air can on my superdeluxe to check what (if any) tokens were installed. As it turns out there's a blue spacer underneath the bump stop which is clearly used to limit travel. I've no doubt this could be easily cut off and thus give full stroke. Normally i cross reference the parts catalogue in these situations to make sure things like air cans - damper body's etc are indeed the same. I wasn't brave enough to cut it off just in case something collides internally or there isn't enough clearance in the seat stay bridge at bottom out. To replace the spacer is a FULL strip down job, with all the special tools involved, the main piston is quite an intricate thing!

I was in a bit of a rush to go out riding, so didn't measure the spacer, but 5mm seems about right. Who's going to do it first ?

No volume tokens BTW...

i cut the blue spacer i wrap the stanchion of the shock to make it sure the saw will not touch i cut it both opposite side and if ech side have few MM left i snap it

 

[irie]

@HeyHey If you do get an Ohlins coil then rotate the damper shaft to move the Rebound knob to the rear (as below).

Trek rail rear shock upgrade ideas please

Have January 2022 Trek Rail 5 Large, also weigh about 80kg kitted up with Ohlins TTX22m.2 coil shock and Rockshox Lyrik Ultimate MY23 forks with Trutune eBike insert (no spacers). Shock from TF Tuned came with the 525lb spring recommended by them. Have also tried a 500lb spring but prefer the...

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[HeyHey]

Bought from TF Tuned - came from them with the 3 shims pre-installed so the shock was standard 57.5mm.

Edit: but have since tried 60mm and 62.5mm but have stayed with 57.5mm which works nicely with the forks (Lyrik Ultimate MY23). Am 5'10/75kg with a 525lb spring. Tried a 500lb spring which felt too soft, the 525lb felt better for where I mostly ride (South Downs) so stayed with it.

Thanks! You are being more informative than the two retailers I have tried to get this info out of.

 

[HeyHey]

@HeyHey If you do get an Ohlins coil then rotate the damper shaft to move the Rebound knob to the rear (as below).

Trek rail rear shock upgrade ideas please

Have January 2022 Trek Rail 5 Large, also weigh about 80kg kitted up with Ohlins TTX22m.2 coil shock and Rockshox Lyrik Ultimate MY23 forks with Trutune eBike insert (no spacers). Shock from TF Tuned came with the 525lb spring recommended by them. Have also tried a 500lb spring but prefer the...

www.emtbforums.com

Thats good info, thanks!

 

[Slapbassmunky]

if put in vivid coil the spring will fi in between the rockers since the shock's body will move up by 25mm?

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Yes that was the idea, then I could use any 205 x 57.5 trunnion shock I liked - as long as the piggy back clears the frame.

As it turns out I got a great deal on a 230mm jade x so bought that instead. I needed some heavy shim work to feel right though.

 

[mark022]

It clear the spring and the pivot just waing the proper trunnion bolt

 

[Bam104]

2022 Trek rail 9.8 xl - Wanting to upgrade my shock. Would like to go to coil. Has anyone made this upgrade ?
Just trying to get the most out of my rig. Current shock has about 2k miles on it.

 

[Bam104]

Current shock-RockShox Super Deluxe Ultimate RT3, DebonAir spring, Thru Shaft 3-position damper, 230mm x 57.5mm

 

[Paulquattro]

2022 Trek rail 9.8 xl - Wanting to upgrade my shock. Would like to go to coil. Has anyone made this upgrade ?
Just trying to get the most out of my rig. Current shock has about 2k miles on it.

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[duri1]

Hi, does anybody know if Rockshox Vivid Ultimate Air 230x62,5 will fit to Rail 5 gen.2 (625Wh 2021) Large size aluminium frame? I know that 230x60 fits but have no clue if 62,5 will be fine as well. Thanks

 

[Zed.]

Hi, does anybody know if Rockshox Vivid Ultimate Air 230x62,5 will fit to Rail 5 gen.2 (625Wh 2021) Large size aluminium frame? I know that 230x60 fits but have no clue if 62,5 will be fine as well. Thanks

I ran my 2002 Rail5 (alloy)for over 1000miles in bikepark trails with 65mm travel damper and there was no problems

also, I didn't die

Rich.

 

[duri1]

I ran my 2002 Rail5 (alloy)for over 1000miles in bikepark trails with 65mm travel damper and there was no problems

also, I didn't die

Rich.

Rockshox Vivid Ultimate Air 230x65mm?

 

[Zed.]

Rockshox Vivid Ultimate Air 230x65mm?

might work?

tftuned have a compatability guide that might help???

Trek Shock Guide - TF Tuned

Trek Shock Guide - TF Tuned are experts in mountain bike and bicycle suspension service and repair, including setting-up the for you and your bike

www.tftuned.com

I used an Ohlins ttx2air, Ohlins ttx22m coil and Manitou Mara (air) - all in 230mm length x 65mm travel

Rich.

 

[valecek]

firs ride, superdeluxe ultimate with 230*60mm
what did i do wrong ?

trek rail 7 gen 3 L

 

[Slapbassmunky]

firs ride, superdeluxe ultimate with 230*60mm
what did i do wrong ?

trek rail 7 gen 3 L


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Image nicked from TF Tuned. This should explain it.

 

[alexiow]

I've shamelessly nicked this idea and come up with a MK2 version that bolts straight onto the lower trunnion mount.... View attachment 51411

Nice! So did you never use this mount? (Saw you got a Jade C X shock?)

The only other one I can find on line is from Shockcraft but looks like they are based in NZ

 

[alexiow]

Came across a chap on good old Facebook who said he has fitted eyelet 230x57.5 Rockshox Coil to a medium Rail no issues (stole his photo as well)

He may even be on here???

I don’t know what to believe or who i can trust anymore…..

 

[irie]

Clearance often depends on carbon vs alloy, frame size, and year of manufacture.

 

[alexiow]

Clearance often depends on carbon vs alloy, frame size, and year of manufacture.

yep.

pictured above is 2022 Medium Ally sooooooo god knows