SZZS specific CEF50-main thread (initial builds and troubleshooting related only)

[mike_kelly]

@LAnton what connector does the M820 use? XT60 or XT90 maybe?

 

[TCFlowClyde]

Ok, I officially got back in the game! Made final payment this week....haggling to the end, and their Chinese ancestry holiday delayed further. So some frustration on detail clarification.

Now just waiting on the tracking number today/tomorrow!!!

Quick and dirty...over the weekend Linda's engineer finally sent a motion CAD illustration video of my fatter air can MegNeg showing the compression arc clearing the frame (I requested it over 6 weeks ago and settled on the still photo instead back then). I emailed the video clip to a mechanical engineering and occasionally riding buddy who confirmed that it "should" work.

I'm planning on buying the Fox Float X as backup (if needed but not as a spare)...just in case! Sorry but money is super tight and have to use max leverage to negotiate unfortunately! I'm semi-retired, so very limited living budget!

Anyway, it's finally done with less anxiety but jaundiced eye as they say. I'm sure it will be fine!

If all goes well, it should be shipping out this weekend!

 

[stuff]

Ok, I officially got back in the game! Made final payment this week....haggling to the end, and their Chinese ancestry holiday delayed further. So some frustration on detail clarification.‍

Now just waiting on the tracking number today/tomorrow!!!

Quick and dirty...over the weekend Linda's engineer finally sent a motion CAD illustration video of my fatter air can MegNeg showing the compression arc clearing the frame (I requested it over 6 weeks ago and settled on the still photo instead back then). I emailed the video clip to a mechanical engineering and occasionally riding buddy who confirmed that it "should" work.

I'm planning on buying the Fox Float X as backup...just in case! Sorry but money is super tight and have to use max leverage to negotiate unfortunately! I'm semi-retired, so very limited living budget!

Anyway, it's finally done with less anxiety but jaundiced eye as they say. I'm sure it will be fine!

If all goes well, it should be shipping out this weekend!

If money’s tight, why dont you save the money of the float X and worst case scenario you just remove the megneg and install the normal can on you rs super deluxe?
Kinda makes 0 sense for me having a backup one

 

[mike_kelly]

Stuff, TC is worried about breaking his Super Deluxe on those 30ft jumps he does

 

[TCFlowClyde]

If money’s tight, why dont you save the money of the float X and worst case scenario you just remove the megneg and install the normal can on you rs super deluxe?
Kinda makes 0 sense for me having a backup one

The RS normal is decent but less so at my heavier weight and aggressive/sloppy riding style. But would sell it as the MegNeg on E-bay to max cash on the upgrades...but still at a loss.

I meant the Float is a back up to purchase if needed (not as a spare). As it is readily available here in the US. The rub was I could've gotten another $100 off a month ago on sitewide by JensonUSA who is usually very discount stingy on Fox and other big names. Sure, it's only $100 savings but then I'll be waiting to sell a MegNeg overtime and eating a few hundred there.

So it adds up. Plus, another $400-$500 is the cost of a spare M820 motor. Which is on-order as soon as I can eek it out on the future budget somehow.🫣

I have a DPX2 on a another e-rig and like it for the bottom+out resistance. It's closer to MegNeg feel. The Float X is newer, more slient version. So definitely doable!

But the MegNeg is amazing for my aggressive riding style. It was a deal breaker potential vs. the cash loss.

Hopefully it will fit. I look forward to your review? Especially with your technical background and willingness to "air-it-out".,

 

[TCFlowClyde]

Stuff, TC is worried about breaking his Super Deluxe on those 30ft jumps he does

That superman at Red Bull is not likely a safe trick on a tiny bump either. Even tiny, my risk aversion limit prohibits such insanity...for me at least!

 

[mike_kelly]

You're no fun!

 

[TCFlowClyde]

You're no fun!

You're no fun!

Sometimes "safe" is fun too!

 

[mike_kelly]

Hey my wheels never leave the ground so not one to talk.

 

[TCFlowClyde]

Hey my wheels never leave the ground so not one to talk.

Just a little air for me... that's why I got that big Enduro travel 180/165ish? to help counter my poor skilz...I huck more than I can gracefully jump... although I do like a mini tail whip (flick really) for style.

 

[TCFlowClyde]

All just to wrap it up on this thread and as stated previously, I appreciate the feedback! It's been 30 pages of mostly good info, and yes, some entertaining banter. But please....

I recommend somebody else start a specific topic on the CEF50. Mainly because this one has gotten too long to be practical, mostly by me 🫣, and run it's course.

Maybe a CEF50 battery extender topic? Or a CEF50 shipment and unboxing thread?

I expect the CEF50 ride reviews for both frame and M820 motor should be enlightening!

Peace out and signing off this specific thread...for reals!!!

PS. Look for a pimped-out (or not) anodized purple (Chromecast) DIY paint job coming in 3-4 weeks +/-. (All rattle-can for under $39 USD.).

 

[temon10]

Ok, I officially got back in the game! Made final payment this week....haggling to the end, and their Chinese ancestry holiday delayed further. So some frustration on detail clarification.

Now just waiting on the tracking number today/tomorrow!!!

Quick and dirty...over the weekend Linda's engineer finally sent a motion CAD illustration video of my fatter air can MegNeg showing the compression arc clearing the frame (I requested it over 6 weeks ago and settled on the still photo instead back then). I emailed the video clip to a mechanical engineering and occasionally riding buddy who confirmed that it "should" work.

I'm planning on buying the Fox Float X as backup (if needed but not as a spare)...just in case! Sorry but money is super tight and have to use max leverage to negotiate unfortunately! I'm semi-retired, so very limited living budget!

Anyway, it's finally done with less anxiety but jaundiced eye as they say. I'm sure it will be fine!

If all goes well, it should be shipping out this weekend!

welcome back

 

[LAnton]

@LAnton what connector does the M820 use? XT60 or XT90 maybe?

XT30

 

[spokémon]

Quick and dirty...over the weekend Linda's engineer finally sent a motion CAD illustration video of my fatter air can MegNeg showing the compression arc clearing the frame (I requested it over 6 weeks ago and settled on the still photo instead back then). I emailed the video clip to a mechanical engineering and occasionally riding buddy who confirmed that it "should" work.

@TCFlowClyde Sorry to drag you back into this thread, but curious how much clearance is remaining to downtube at full compression?

 

[TCFlowClyde]

@TCFlowClyde Sorry to drag you back into this thread, but curious how much clearance is remaining to downtube at full compression?

Fair question...I understand the need to know.

Here's a screenshot of vid she sent me of my MegNeg at end of stroke. Note it's 210 x 50 spec.

But the piggyback reservoir clears well too from my view, at least for large frame and up sizes (on smaller frames sizes, it might be fairly close to the downtube).

I guess just DM me with email and I can send it (rather the coil simulation with no piggyback, I thought she sent my MegNeg motion vid as well but it was just 5 snap shots in series).

 

[spokémon]

But the piggyback reservoir clears well too from my view, at least for large frame and up sizes (on smaller frames sizes, it might be fairly close to the downtube).

I guess just DM me with email and I can send it (rather the coil simulation with no piggyback, I thought she sent my MegNeg motion vid as well but it was just 5 snap shots in series).

Thanks Hmm I forgot about frame size. The end of stroke pic should be enough to judge... besides I think there's a forum rule about postcount for newbies and DM something something something

 

[TCFlowClyde]

Thanks Hmm I forgot about frame size. The end of stroke pic should be enough to judge... besides I think there's a forum rule about postcount for newbies and DM something something something

Just a quick reminder...if you're unsure and can wait, @stuff was generous enough to offer to test out a few different shocks from air to coil, in-line to piggyback on his rig. When he gets his shipment in a few weeks(?) he'll likely be kind enough to post his findings. So definitely more definitive! Thanks again @stuff!

 

[mike_kelly]

XT30

Wow that small? Must be a pretty efficient motor.
That would be good for trying to fit a Extender switch into the downtube.
Thanks for checking!

 

[mike_kelly]

Moved

 

[Stephen B]

I should have asked a long time ago but does this manufacturer have a lot of experience making carbon mtb frames? Do they manufacture frames for mainstream bikes brands?
This came up when I was discussing with friends.

Stephen

 

[mike_kelly]

I don't think anyone knows. You can look at their page and see their claims.

Shenzhen Zhaosheng Carbon Fiber Technology Co., Ltd.

Alibaba Manufacturer Directory - Suppliers, Manufacturers, Exporters & Importers

szzsbike.en.alibaba.com

 

[stuff]

Just a quick reminder...if you're unsure and can wait, @stuff was generous enough to offer to test out a few different shocks from air to coil, in-line to piggyback on his rig. When he gets his shipment in a few weeks(?) he'll likely be kind enough to post his findings. So definitely more definitive! Thanks again @stuff!

As soon as it arrives i’ll test it
Got three shocks to test over here:
Rs superdeluxe ultimate air 210x55
Rs superdeluxe ultimate coil 210x55
Suntour triair 3cr 210x50

 

[Stephen B]

I already one.

 

[Stephen B]

I bought a 55mm stroke shock and 29er wheels, I hope it doesn’t hit the seat tube.

 

[stuff]

I bought a 55mm stroke shock and 29er wheels, I hope it doesn’t hit the seat tube.

Depending on the shock you can limit the stroke.
Well, tbf all of them can get their stroke limited, its just a matter of difficulty

 

[LAnton]

I bought a 55mm stroke shock and 29er wheels, I hope it doesn’t hit the seat tube.

If there are problems, you can always reduce the shock absorber stroke to 50mm

 

[Stephen B]

Yes, I will have to wait and see if it rubs. The rear shock is a Fox X2 so I will have to have a professional service it. I see that Stuff has a couple of 55mm stroke shocks that he is going to test, I hope they work.

 

[stuff]

Yes, I will have to wait and see if it rubs. The rear shock is a Fox X2 so I will have to have a professional service it. I see that Stuff has a couple of 55mm stroke shocks that he is going to test, I hope they work.

Not really, its one of the simplest shocks to change the stroke.
Just google “fox x2 stroke change”, as easy as adding a volume token.

 

[Stephen B]

Thank you, I was told they were very difficult to work on.

 

[LAnton]

The frames are ready to ship