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Any more news on when the new KSL is coming?
LBS told me not to expect it in stores before May, maybe even later.Now that we are in 2023 do we have more clue about this 2023 Levo SL ?
I doubt that they can react that fast. Bikes for Delivery this spring (or last autumn which is when we were expecting this to drop) will have been "booked" at least 2 years ago and designs and tooling would almost certainly have had to be finalised well before last winter/spring if not earlier.I think that the Pivot and Trek caught Spesh by surprise, and they scraped the release of the "updated" SL, because the drive system wasn't as refined as the Fazua or TQ systems.
I don't see them releasing anything until their drive system is 50+ NM, and in the sub 35lb range.
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Logic usually prevails in the end!It's not going to be sub 35#s, a 400 kwh battery pack alone weighs 5#s on top of a 30# bike. That's before you get to the motor.
Even 40#s with proper tires and ready to ride seems like a stretch.
OMGAny sources or links to that issues? Would like to know more.Controller sticking, breaking. Motor casing ring coming lose, motor creaking. Selling of these bikes being stopped due to the various issues, whatever they are exactly.
Seems like the most reliable mid-power ebike motor is the Bafang in the Forestal.
It's quite old photoSome rumors found in german Pedelec Forum:
Seems to be equipped with the actual SL 1.1 Motor.
Old photo with latest Lyrik mounted???It's quite old photo
Launched 9 months ago so oldOld photo with latest Lyrik mounted???
exactly very oldLaunched 9 months ago so old
I think he meant that particular photo appeared on the Internet 2/3 months backOld photo with latest Lyrik mounted???
I’d hold off on anything with a Fazua motor/battery for a good while. A friend of mine back in the US just had his Shuttle SL replaced with a Shuttle LT because Fazua has no motors in stock for warranty replacements and no ETA on when they would. His had the retaining ring pop out that seems to be happening to a ton of them.I have super secret info on the Relay that a tester I bumped into at the trailhead told me, well actually Transition just emailed me their newsletter.
I'm most likely going with the Relay.
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Interesting. And they had problems with the display.Seems like the most reliable mid-power ebike motor is the Bafang in the Forestal.
The display is stupid imo and Forestal is releasing an economy version that's going to cost less without that display replacing it with just a state of charge indicator, and weigh 1/2# less to boot.Interesting. And they had problems with the display.
When the Forestal was announced with it's display, it was pretty ground breaking and impressive. It's basically just a small android phone though and for whatever reason has been plagued with issues from day 1, from supply, development, electrical interference, reliability. The syrion's also a stunning bike and I've ordered it twice and then given up. There have been countless issues with the motor over time - hopefully, at some point, maybe we are there now - it's finally coming together as a package. At the start we discussed that - as a bit of a niche bike, owners would expect some issues and be more forgiving of them, it's only natural.The display is stupid imo and Forestal is releasing an economy
That maybe true and we'll all see things as we want to justify our choices !Bafang is the world's largest e-bike motor manufacturer, likely many times over, and as a result they seem to have the reliability bugs worked out.
And spent millions on acquiring a new R&D facility.Spesh just laid off 8% of it's staff globally.
Was that a technology R&D facility or a Profits R&D facility ?And spent millions on acquiring a new R&D facility.
No idea, but you could always ask them...Was that a technology R&D facility or a Profits R&D facility ?
We've asked customers and they'd like things to be on average 8% lighter ... PRD facility - ok, make the workforce 8% less.
People like the value that a DTC supplier gives them. PRD facility - Ok, we'll sell direct, but sell at the same price so they get the feeling of a premium product.
Now that we're competing with ourselves ... we need to be more efficient .. PRD facility - No problem, We'll cut the dealer margins.
No idea, but you could always ask them...
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