How long before integrated motor/gearboxes go mainstream?

[d7e8wd]

Finally seems like Valeo/effigear have a solid prototype, I recall seeing another manufacturer on an embn vid at interbike a few weeks ago too.

Valeo & Effigear Merge an E-Bike Motor With a Gearbox - Eurobike 2021 - Pinkbike

The Valeo/Effigear Smart e-Bike System features seven gears with a range of 450% and a whopping 130 Nm of maximum torque.

m.pinkbike.com

In my mind this is a slam dunk for ebikes and should the tech be robust and somewhat sensible in its pricing is be shocked if it didn't get thrown on all the big hitters for 2023 ?

Hope my rail holds out until they are available, now we can see the tech is nearly there I honestly think it would put me off buying another ebike with a conventional drivetrain.

What do you guys think?

 

[Swiftdaddy]

I think all mtb’s will move to gearboxes in the next few years. It just makes sense and there was a prototype from shimano I believe so seems they are working on one. Then my current bike will be unridable and give me an excuse to buy a new one. Death to derailleurs!

 

[steve_sordy]

I think all mtb’s will move to gearboxes in the next few years. It just makes sense and there was a prototype from shimano I believe so seems they are working on one. Then my current bike will be unridable and give me an excuse to buy a new one. Death to derailleurs!

If Shimano produced a combined motor & gearbox, I for one would not touch it with a bargepole unless it was serviceable. Motors are complex enough; to add the complexity of a gearbox to it just guarantees a failure. A long warranty might convince me, but it would have to be transferable.

 

[TPEHAK]

They basically need to relocate the Rohloff wheel gearbox to the motor.

 

[Slowroller]

Once we get past the "Pay the premium to be an alpha tester" stage, I'd be all in. Given that the small extra weight and drag penalty is meaningless on an ebike compared to the much easier and cheaper maintenance of your drivetrain, I think it's inevitable.

 

[Swiftdaddy]

If Shimano produced a combined motor & gearbox, I for one would not touch it with a bargepole unless it was serviceable. Motors are complex enough; to add the complexity of a gearbox to it just guarantees a failure. A long warranty might convince me, but it would have to be transferable.

Im specifically talking gearbox only not motor integration. I’ve no idea if they are working on one for ebikes.

 

[gbarfoot]

Not soon enough

 

[Slowroller]

Im specifically talking gearbox only not motor integration. I’ve no idea if they are working on one for ebikes.

Considering how long development cycles are, I'm sure both SRAM and Shimano have motor+gearbox designs underway. Shimano will no doubt release one years after other people have lol.

 

[ant0]

I think all mtb’s will move to gearboxes in the next few years. It just makes sense and there was a prototype from shimano I believe so seems they are working on one. Then my current bike will be unridable and give me an excuse to buy a new one. Death to derailleurs!

Death to derailleurs is good by me, I destroy them at an alarming rate and am well known for this among my friends ?‍?

 

[bazxa]

I'm ready to buy a motor gearbox combo, wish the manufacturers would get their act together.
Just fitted a new derailleur and they are hard to get.

 

[steve_sordy]

Im specifically talking gearbox only not motor integration. I’ve no idea if they are working on one for ebikes.

I was lured in by the title that specifically referred to integrated motor/gearboxes.