commencal 2021
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rb.
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I regret not getting the signature/fox edition. My 38 on my pedal bike feels way better than this Zeb that came on my Meta.
Just torqued mine they were definitely not at 16. Getting the the inner screw is tough but I had enough extra goodies to make it work
Yesterday I talked with a seller from Commencal Andorra and I pointed him to these problems, he said that they already know about it and solve it, so we'll see
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ShaneBean
Member
It's just 2-3nm for the retaining cap. Friend of mine checked the torque on the same bike I got. He said the cranks where only tightened to 6nm. It was like the same with my bike.
I suppose you all got this email. A little different than previously noted:
Good morning!
We hope you are enjoying your new Meta Power! Thanks so much for your choice in Commencal, we’re stoked to have you in the family!
Over the last week we have received customer feedback on the new 2021 Meta Powers - one issue has been brought to our attention.
We have seen several non-drive side (left side of the bike) E13 crank arms loosen or fall off.
The E13 crank’s pinch bolts may require greater torque than what was applied during the initial assembly. On the production line, they were tightened to between 12 and 14 N.m. However, we recommend a higher torque value of 16 N.m. Below is some info on what to do.
To ensure proper technique when tightening the cranks, please complete the following steps:
1.Tighten the screw closest to the frame to 14 N.m
2. Tighten the screw farther from the frame to 14 N.m
3. Tighten the screw on the inside again to 16 N.m
4. Tighten the screw on the outside again to 16 N.m
If you don't feel confident enough to complete this procedure, or if you don't have the necessary tools, no problem! You can go to the bike shop of your choice and we will cover the cost of labour.
We sincerely apologize for the inconvenience. Please don’t hesitate to reach out with any questions or concerns.
Email: [email protected]
Phone: 303-284-7693
Cheers
COMMENCAL USA TEAM
Good morning!
We hope you are enjoying your new Meta Power! Thanks so much for your choice in Commencal, we’re stoked to have you in the family!
Over the last week we have received customer feedback on the new 2021 Meta Powers - one issue has been brought to our attention.
We have seen several non-drive side (left side of the bike) E13 crank arms loosen or fall off.
The E13 crank’s pinch bolts may require greater torque than what was applied during the initial assembly. On the production line, they were tightened to between 12 and 14 N.m. However, we recommend a higher torque value of 16 N.m. Below is some info on what to do.
To ensure proper technique when tightening the cranks, please complete the following steps:
1.Tighten the screw closest to the frame to 14 N.m
2. Tighten the screw farther from the frame to 14 N.m
3. Tighten the screw on the inside again to 16 N.m
4. Tighten the screw on the outside again to 16 N.m
If you don't feel confident enough to complete this procedure, or if you don't have the necessary tools, no problem! You can go to the bike shop of your choice and we will cover the cost of labour.
We sincerely apologize for the inconvenience. Please don’t hesitate to reach out with any questions or concerns.
Email: [email protected]
Phone: 303-284-7693
Cheers
COMMENCAL USA TEAM
Mcharza
E*POWAH BOSS
Like the US Commencal customer care
Darkyhs
Well-known member
Picked up the bike today from the LBS. This is for the moment the final spec Additionally, they told me that the cranks were 6nm tightened vs the 14/16 as recommended by Commencal's last email.
So far so good. Haven't ridden a trail yet, as in Portugal it has been raining allot lately and we have a strange partial lockdown situation. But I will go this week to ride it
Additionally, they told me that the cranks were 6nm tightened vs the 14/16 as recommended by Commencal's last email.So far so good. Haven't ridden a trail yet, as in Portugal it has been raining allot lately and we have a strange partial lockdown situation. But I will go this week to ride it
noblige
Member
Anyone found matching teal nail polish for Signature? Dropped the bike today and left with couple deep gouges
See my previous posts on the color matching. Still looking for the perfect toe nail polish...Anyone found matching teal nail polish for Signature? Dropped the bike today and left with couple deep gouges
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And how dare you drop this bike! You are not allowed to.Anyone found matching teal nail polish for Signature? Dropped the bike today and left with couple deep gouges
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where you get invisiframe?
From their own website. They don't have the 2021 kit so I bought the 2020 kit and had to modify to fit. Pain but worth it. The seat/chain stay sections all fit perfectly from the old kit but the rest needed modified. Took me best part of a day but glad it's done ??
shenchman
New Member
haven't used this but seems cool. I don't love the electroplate lagoon anyway..
or, embrace paint removal & scrape it all off..the polished ohlins version saves a few pounds
Hugh-Jazz
Member
Probably just the negative air spring a bit over pressurized. To fix it, let a bit of air out so you can cycle the fork through its travel, then cycle through travel several times. When the fork moves past the transfer port it will burp the negative spring.
Proper test done, I love this bike. Super stable while nimble, smash through rocks and roots, and still easy to handle on twisty and grnarly tracks.
First ebike so I can't compare with others, but the extra weight seams to disappear when going down. Previous bike 2019 Orbea Rallon.
6500ft of enduro trail and singletrack, all in ECO mode. Rider weight 100kg
Rattling noise is noticeable but doesn't bother me. Motor much more silent than the E8000 on my mates' bikes.
First ebike so I can't compare with others, but the extra weight seams to disappear when going down. Previous bike 2019 Orbea Rallon.
6500ft of enduro trail and singletrack, all in ECO mode. Rider weight 100kg
Rattling noise is noticeable but doesn't bother me. Motor much more silent than the E8000 on my mates' bikes.
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rb.
Active member
Almost not noticeable to me. Non-issue.
shenchman
New Member
in my opinion imperceptible insignificant overblown ridiculousness. like the tiniest occasional cable rattle that I wouldn't have even noticed had the whiners not unreasonably expected sheer desolate silent perfection out of a motor with zero belts to snap (brose) or even plastic cogs (bosch).
when the motor is winching their whining asses up interminable climbs, the only motor more silent in my experience is the bafang bbs02b, which only fits retrobikes & has massive battery frame location vs. spinal column albatross issues.
As I've mentioned previously, rattle is a total non issue for me. Although I think the Levo may be as quiet (just rode next to a friend who has one)
Totally agree. I just rode my analog Santa Cruz Hightower yesterday and the Commencal feels more planted and stable. And a monster on the descents.Proper test done, I love this bike. Super stable while nimble, smash through rocks and roots, and still easy to handle on twisty and grnarly tracks.
First ebike so I can't compare with others, but the extra weight seams to disappear when going down. Previous bike 2019 Orbea Rallon.
6500ft of enduro trail and singletrack, all in ECO mode. Rider weight 100kg
Rattling noise is noticeable but doesn't bother me. Motor much more silent than the E8000 on my mates' bikes.
HeatproofGenie
Active member
So I see some ride reports and it does look like range is definitely increased. Is anyone coming from an E8000 bike and can share how much more range they are getting?
Really I am interested in how much vertical one can get in on a ride. Our riding here in CO is mostly steep climbs and descents. On my 20 Meta Power 29 I can get 4500' (feet) of climbing with predominantly eco use and some trail. I really want more range. I am 80kg or 175lbs.
I want to know if the new EP8 system will deliver what I want or if I need to go to a Levo or Kenevo. Specialized seems to be king of range at the moment with riders here able to get 7-8000' of climbing in on a 700wh battery.
I've had a '19 and now '20 Meta Power 29 so I like what they offer and believe the new geometry to be only an improvement so still have a soft spot for these bikes. Will definitely be considering Specialized and maybe a Bullit if range is improved enough. Would also consider a Rail as I have heard range is good there too but probably not quite up to Brose and 700wh battery.
Really I am interested in how much vertical one can get in on a ride. Our riding here in CO is mostly steep climbs and descents. On my 20 Meta Power 29 I can get 4500' (feet) of climbing with predominantly eco use and some trail. I really want more range. I am 80kg or 175lbs.
I want to know if the new EP8 system will deliver what I want or if I need to go to a Levo or Kenevo. Specialized seems to be king of range at the moment with riders here able to get 7-8000' of climbing in on a 700wh battery.
I've had a '19 and now '20 Meta Power 29 so I like what they offer and believe the new geometry to be only an improvement so still have a soft spot for these bikes. Will definitely be considering Specialized and maybe a Bullit if range is improved enough. Would also consider a Rail as I have heard range is good there too but probably not quite up to Brose and 700wh battery.
Well theoretically you will get about 20% more range with the bigger battery compared to E8000. The Rail was also a strong contender for me, but not even close in price when you compare the kit. Rail is about 5 lbs lighter however with the carbon frame. But man this Meta rocks.
HeatproofGenie
Active member
Right, 20% more climbing would put me at 5500' really eeking that out. Shimano claims efficiency increases on EP8 which is really what I'm inquiring about I suppose.
These bikes do rock, I love my '20 and I know the '21 will be better. I just want more range.
These bikes do rock, I love my '20 and I know the '21 will be better. I just want more range.
rb.
Active member
When riding slow (at normal bike speeds) in eco mode it is definitely more efficient. I could get 6000’ absolute max on my e8000 with 540wh battery. My first ride on the Commencal I got 6300’ with 40% battery remaining.
On trail mode it is far less efficient.
I think you need a comparison from a US owner - the lower cut out of assistance elsewhere actually has a big effect on range - I had one of my e8000 set to US limit, and the other to EU, and there’s a surprising amount of difference in range between them on identical rides just because you are using the assistance less on the EU bikes. On US cutout I would struggle to get more than 20miles 3000ft of climbing in trail mode, whereas get closer to 25miles on the EU
HeatproofGenie
Active member
Not a bad point. Here's a ride where I got the most vert yet on my '20. I did not push to a dead battery so probably had 10% maybe 15% left. Our climbing is really steep and that definitely affects range.
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Agree ?? the red one ridden by Matt Jones in his latest video looks lovely albeit the lower spec model.
rb.
Active member
It would be good if it had the new motor and battery. That’s one thing I like about Commencal is you can get a lower spec bike with the latest and greatest motor and battery.
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