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[robat]

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I'm planning to mount the same bottlecage on my sx ?

 

[beneseleve]

I would see how you get on with it first, still a lot of adjustment on that fork and will be fine for most people - give it a few months and you can always swap it out later.

Ok thanks i ll give it a try.

As R120 says, give it some time, if you do decide to change just time it in when the forks are due a service.

Thats a good tip?

 

[shenchman]

That's how preferences vary ?
I like my suspension plush only at the beginning of the travel and a very responsive mid travel to "push" against. I also prefer a progressive spring curve to increased (hs) compression damping, to keep the bike more lively.
But I think you would need to remove far more than one spacer, to really feel a difference in the mid stoke.

agreed. just fyi there was only one spacer installed from the factory.
after a few more rides I find the e-bike factory tune on the float X2 to be noticeably stiffer from the float X2 I have on my nomad v3, feels like they've really stiffened up the shim stacks. I'm all the way out on LSR to try to get the rear end to pop/spring off jumps, feels almost too stuck to the ground sort of like a V10 DH bike.
same for the fox 38, even all the way out on LSR it's still quite damped relative to all the way out on other fox forks I've had on acoustics.

 

[robat]

Ok thanks i ll give it a try.


Thats a good tip?

If you have Rock Shox suspension parts, you definitely should consider to do a small service while they're new, since RS is known for really bad lubrication standards...

agreed. just fyi there was only one spacer installed from the factory.
after a few more rides I find the e-bike factory tune on the float X2 to be noticeably stiffer from the float X2 I have on my nomad v3, feels like they've really stiffened up the shim stacks. I'm all the way out on LSR to try to get the rear end to pop/spring off jumps, feels almost too stuck to the ground sort of like a V10 DH bike.
same for the fox 38, even all the way out on LSR it's still quite damped relative to all the way out on other fox forks I've had on acoustics.

Thanks for the info ?
I ordered the sx ride model with the deluxe on it, but have a 230x65 X2 that I plan to install.
Have you checked the HSR setting? Since HSR and LSR correlate. Maybe you can open it up a little and get the LSR you want. The only other way to get a quicker LSR (besides reshimming) I can think of is to put more pressure in the air chamber (as long your SAG is in an usable range).

 

[JW9]

built the bike up yesterday and changed saddle, pedals and grips need to swap the brake over before riding...the blue/green colour looks way more green like the grips in real life, the camera makes it look more blue

 

[rb.]

The small fidlock bottles fit the 2020 bikes perfectly, are those self tapping screws? ?

No, normal bolts that have a tapered Phillips head.

 

[Duggan]

No, normal bolts that have a tapered Phillips head.

???

 

[Mcharza]

If you have Rock Shox suspension parts, you definitely should consider to do a small service while they're new, since RS is known for really bad lubrication standards...

I agreed, always do lower legs oil change when it's new. Works always better

 

[shenchman]

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built the bike up yesterday and changed saddle, pedals and grips need to swap the brake over before riding...the blue/green colour looks way more green like the grips in real life, the camera makes it look more blue

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[melmark]

agreed. just fyi there was only one spacer installed from the factory.
after a few more rides I find the e-bike factory tune on the float X2 to be noticeably stiffer from the float X2 I have on my nomad v3, feels like they've really stiffened up the shim stacks. I'm all the way out on LSR to try to get the rear end to pop/spring off jumps, feels almost too stuck to the ground sort of like a V10 DH bike.
same for the fox 38, even all the way out on LSR it's still quite damped relative to all the way out on other fox forks I've had on acoustics.

Yes too stiff and slow. Looks like it will take a lot of tweaking.

 

[shenchman]

anyone else getting chain rub on the chain guide when in the top 2 cogs = lowest/easiest gears?
I'm on a Meta Power 29 size L Signature, XT drivetrain + E13 E*spec 160mm crank

chain guide doesn't seem to be adjustable in/out. I pulled mine off & have yet to drop a chain...

 

[noblige]

anyone else getting chain rub on the chain guide when in the top 2 cogs = lowest/easiest gears?
I'm on a Meta Power 29 size L Signature, XT drivetrain + E13 E*spec 160mm crank

chain guide doesn't seem to be adjustable in/out. I pulled mine off & have yet to drop a chain...

Yes, same issue

 

[noblige]

Went for a longer ride today - all in Trail mode (except couple short bursts of Boost). 27 miles and 5k elevation, had 1 bar left at the end. Did not feel I was working much harder in Trail mode than in Boost. Shimano's claim "Set it and forget it" for new Trail mode seems to be mostly true.
Another testament to motor quietness on climbs - had few people surprised that I was coming up behind them: "didn't even hear you"
On other hand found a weak spot: on flatter trails where you need to pedal to keep the speed, hitting 20mph wall was super annoying, especially when pedaling into the jumps. I wish the limit was closer to 25mph.

 

[melmark]

anyone else getting chain rub on the chain guide when in the top 2 cogs = lowest/easiest gears?
I'm on a Meta Power 29 size L Signature, XT drivetrain + E13 E*spec 160mm crank

chain guide doesn't seem to be adjustable in/out. I pulled mine off & have yet to drop a chain...

Same here. I called and they said to "raise it as high as it will go", but its already there

 

[melmark]

Unclear on the shock instructions. It says to close the valves all the way by going "all the way clockwise" which pulls them out, then "back them out" counter clockwise x amount of clicks to adjust. Its already all the way backed out. wtf am I not getting. HSC only has 10 click total lock to lock yet instructions says up to 20 clicks?

Apparently this latest version of the shock is different

 

[shenchman]

Unclear on the shock instructions. It says to close the valves all the way by going "all the way clockwise" which pulls them out, then "back them out" counter clockwise x amount of clicks to adjust. Its already all the way backed out. wtf am I not getting. HSC only has 10 click total lock to lock yet instructions says up to 20 clicks?

make sure you are reading the 2021 float x2 tuning instructions, it's quite different from 2020 & prior. reduced clicks etc.
clicker adjustments are always relative to fully closed = damped = slow = fully clockwise, then count clicks as you back it out.
with the float x2 ebike tune on the signature at least it's so damped to begin with i'd start basically all the way out on everything actually & dial in the rebound if you feel like it's too bouncy.
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[JW9]

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I am tempted by a decal change but I don’t mind the orange fox now I’ve seen the bike, I also have a parts colour option in stock that matches ?

 

[shenchman]

Same here. I called and they said to "raise it as high as it will go", but its already there

fixed, just remove the metal bracket attached to the frame & grind about 2mm off the inside face.

 

[shenchman]

fox 38 volume spacer situation. 3 in my size L signature.
depressurize left leg, 32mm socket to remove stanchion cap & they're attached to the cap itself.

 

[rb.]

Went for a longer ride today - all in Trail mode (except couple short bursts of Boost). 27 miles and 5k elevation, had 1 bar left at the end. Did not feel I was working much harder in Trail mode than in Boost. Shimano's claim "Set it and forget it" for new Trail mode seems to be mostly true.
Another testament to motor quietness on climbs - had few people surprised that I was coming up behind them: "didn't even hear you"
On other hand found a weak spot: on flatter trails where you need to pedal to keep the speed, hitting 20mph wall was super annoying, especially when pedaling into the jumps. I wish the limit was closer to 25mph.

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You can move the speed sensor to the front of your chain stay facing outwards, and then put a bar magnet on your cranks. The power will never turn off because it will think you are never exceeding 8mph or so because you can physically only spin your cranks so fast. Bike can easily get up to 28mph on flats before you start running out of gears.

 

[noblige]

You can move the speed sensor to the front of your chain stay facing outwards, and then put a bar magnet on your cranks. The power will never turn off because it will think you are never exceeding 8mph or so because you can physically only spin your cranks so fast. Bike can easily get up to 28mph on flats before you start running out of gears.

Haha, brilliant - definitely something I'll try soon.

 

[shenchman]

You can move the speed sensor to the front of your chain stay facing outwards, and then put a bar magnet on your cranks. The power will never turn off because it will think you are never exceeding 8mph or so because you can physically only spin your cranks so fast. Bike can easily get up to 28mph on flats before you start running out of gears.

if this works, post of the year!?

 

[rb.]

if this works, post of the year!?

It worked perfectly fine on the previous shimano systems. I can ask my friend for pics who still has it set up on his decoy I believe. Only issue is this speed sensor looks bigger.

 

[R120]

brief street test seems to work..

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As an FYI apparently the new Shimano software can store and record any attempts to change the assistance limit, and if any evidence of tampering is found it will invalidate the warranty.

The older Shimano software/E8000 did not do this.

Obviously early days and yet to be tested, but worth knowing.

 

[JW9]

First ride today, bike is amazing. This is my first ebike and the distance covered and number of climbs I did was simply astonishing!

The left hand crank arm bolt seems to have fallen off which is annoying, clearly not done up tight by the factory.

Please can someone with the same bike take a picture of their left hand crank arm so I can see what the bolt should look like, cheers!

 

[noblige]

First ride today, bike is amazing. This is my first ebike and the distance covered and number of climbs I did was simply astonishing!
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The left hand crank arm bolt seems to have fallen off which is annoying, clearly not done up tight by the factory.

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Please can someone with the same bike take a picture of their left hand crank arm so I can see what the bolt should look like, cheers!

It's same on both sides. Reach out E*13 - I had spacers between cranks and BB missing on my Meta Trail, they shipped me replacement for free.

 

[thewrx]

probably the only other ebike i would consider besides my levo.

The slim downtube, the decent battery/motor, ability to customize, and the decent mech thats included stock, for a decent price you can't be a commie!

Might even sell my vado once these come out and that way I can have a pavement/trail killer with the meta, and enduro/XC/downhill with the levo.

I also like that hardtail meta pwr, but it comes with an e7000 boooo!!!, would be fun hooligan bike.

 

[melmark]

fixed, just remove the metal bracket attached to the frame & grind about 2mm off the inside face.

Yes that was my next move but raising the part vertically seems to have helped. Will try again today

 

[robbyfritzler]

First E-Bike here, although I have ridden a trek rail 7 a good amount.
This thing felt as good or better than expected (except the brakes).
Motor is very quiet and smooth, didn’t notice a rattle (yet).
And I’m in love with the green.

 

[rb.]

First ride today and was pleasantly surprised by everything. He is a little ride review, and the motor efficiency was amazing riding at normal bike speeds. My decoy with 540wh and e8000 would not have been able to do this full ride unless I REALLY conserved, and I still had 40% left on the Meta!