@Mabman out of interest, how tall are you?
Hmmm…short cranks significantly shorten the „platform“ You are standing on in downhill. I never tried, but isn‘t that a weird feeling?This could already be answered but the M620 cranks are a standard ISIS and the M600 are a non-standard. Paging @rtp to the crank hotline as he sourced some 150's for his M600.
I on the other hand have the former and got some Miranda 155's easily and cheaply enough. After fitting them I found that they are a very significant improvement over the stock 170's in that while they offer less chance of strikes they also interact much better with the Bafang PAS combo of cadence/torque sensing. In fact I am even considering sacrificing my stock cranks and making them 140's just to see if even shorter makes any difference in pedaling efficiency. It will further insulate against strikes also but let's face it paying attention to the trail is the best defense.
hi. have you link / reference of this miranda crank arms ? at my last request they have answered that they don't produce arms for bafang M series. thanksThis could already be answered but the M620 cranks are a standard ISIS and the M600 are a non-standard. Paging @rtp to the crank hotline as he sourced some 150's for his M600.
I on the other hand have the former and got some Miranda 155's easily and cheaply enough. After fitting them I found that they are a very significant improvement over the stock 170's in that while they offer less chance of strikes they also interact much better with the Bafang PAS combo of cadence/torque sensing. In fact I am even considering sacrificing my stock cranks and making them 140's just to see if even shorter makes any difference in pedaling efficiency. It will further insulate against strikes also but let's face it paying attention to the trail is the best defense.
hi. have you link / reference of this miranda crank arms ? at my last request they have answered that they don't produce arms for bafang M series. thanks
Hmmm…short cranks significantly shorten the „platform“ You are standing on in downhill. I never tried, but isn‘t that a weird feeling?
Not sure which motor we are looking for shortened cranks for ? Luna have 150mm cranks for the M500 / M600hi. have you link / reference of this miranda crank arms ? at my last request they have answered that they don't produce arms for bafang M series. thanks
It’s only for M200 motorsI have found interesting thing in the Bafang GO app.
CAN Display Settings -> Parameters...
Anyone tried to change this on M500/M600?
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it is original arms shortened, i have build it but not tested, i find 150 tooshort. I'm ask for miranda because they builts machined arms, more strong than cast, but they had saied me that they don't produce for M600Not sure which motor we are looking for shortened cranks for ? Luna have 150mm cranks for the M500 / M600
LUNA X1 Enduro Short Crank Arms
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They only do so for the larger M620 series motors with the ISIS interface. I found them on Amazon and they came from I believe Aus or the UK? Took a few weeks regardless.
Does kind of raise the ? why did they switch to proprietary for the M5/600. Maybe they just didn't want to pay the ISIS licensing fee.....
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Have you actually tested them on the bike ? I thought 150mm would be way too short as well, but having now fitted them, really finding they suit the motor and bike. It does feel a bit weird for the first hour but now they just feel normal even though I ride 170's on my analogue.it is original arms shortened, i have build it but not tested, i find 150 tooshort. I'm ask for miranda because they builts machined arms, more strong than cast, but they had saied me that they don't produce for M600
No i havn't tested, but i will do it. At this time, when i have shortened the arms it is only to soluce problem of cranks ground touch. In reality i didn't find really a differency on motor functioning, i estimate also that reducing arms length, reduce human torque and by consequency consume more battery power. But i will test.Have you actually tested them on the bike ? I thought 150mm would be way too short as well, but having now fitted them, really finding they suit the motor and bike. It does feel a bit weird for the first hour but now they just feel normal even though I ride 170's on my analogue.
No i havn't tested, but i will do it. At this time, when i have shortened the arms it is only to soluce problem of cranks ground touch. In reality i didn't find really a differency on motor functioning, i estimate also that reducing arms length, reduce human torque and by consequency consume more battery power. But i will test.
Saw those, but shipping to the UK is more than the cranks themselves. I'm just as much cheep as I am cheeb!Not sure which motor we are looking for shortened cranks for ? Luna have 150mm cranks for the M500 / M600
LUNA X1 Enduro Short Crank Arms
Providers of quality ebikes, electric bike batteries, motors and components at affordable pricing.lunacycle.com
You may want to check with Luna as I don't remember there being such a high shipping, I know that you now have to pay UK VAT at Luna but if it had been that high I would have done my first option, get the original pedal threads filled by welding and then drill & tap to 160mm which I think is the length Specialized spec on their new EBikes.Saw those, but shipping to the UK is more than the cranks themselves. I'm just as much cheep as I am cheeb!
I can set percentages on the M600, but they will never be saved. Too bad Bafang didn't make it to the individual mode settings. He would get more points from users ...I have found interesting thing in the Bafang GO app.
CAN Display Settings -> Parameters...
Anyone tried to change this on M500/M600?
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No, never on trails. That’s exactly why I‘m asking, no experience at all. And, how does it feel? Do you need much time to get used to it, or is it just a matter of a couple of minutes? Thanks!Ever ridden a motorcycle with just pegs?
well you don't have to worry about which foot is forward ;-)No, never on trails. That’s exactly why I‘m asking, no experience at all. And, how does it feel? Do you need much time to get used to it, or is it just a matter of a couple of minutes? Thanks!
No, never on trails. That’s exactly why I‘m asking, no experience at all. And, how does it feel? Do you need much time to get used to it, or is it just a matter of a couple of minutes? Thanks!
This could already be answered but the M620 cranks are a standard ISIS and the M600 are a non-standard. Paging @rtp to the crank hotline as he sourced some 150's for his M600.
I on the other hand have the former and got some Miranda 155's easily and cheaply enough. After fitting them I found that they are a very significant improvement over the stock 170's in that while they offer less chance of strikes they also interact much better with the Bafang PAS combo of cadence/torque sensing. In fact I am even considering sacrificing my stock cranks and making them 140's just to see if even shorter makes any difference in pedaling efficiency. It will further insulate against strikes also but let's face it paying attention to the trail is the best defense.
Interesting vid discussing the M600 motor. It talks in details about the cadence bias and fast ramp up of the power and probably backs up my initial thoughts of how the torque sensing works.
Sadly if only we could play around with the bias to suit our own requirements, it would be a pretty robust and mechanically sound engine with just tad bit of porkiness about it.
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for login on firmware versions?I have the same device. Asked for distributor of BAFANG for codes.
I expect there would be, depending on cost and construction etc. I looked everywhere for something between the 170mm originals and Luna's 150mm but none appear to exist.Saw those, but shipping to the UK is more than the cranks themselves. I'm just as much cheep as I am cheeb!
I checked Miranda Manufacturer Website and found they issue a new crankset for M500/510/600, the „Delta BFG“ Ref. 018. It is available in 150 - 170 length, in 5 mm increments. I‘ll check back with German sales rep Hartje on Monday. Looks promising!I expect there would be, depending on cost and construction etc. I looked everywhere for something between the 170mm originals and Luna's 150mm but none appear to exist.
That would be great! Wrong spline in the pic though - you have a set coming?For all that are looking for a shorter crankset, this new Miranda Delta crank is available on Miranda online shop in 150 mm length. Other length are in Production and will be added soon.
Delta LS Cranks 150 Q:16 RF Baf Cold-forged aluminium alloy Standard (Black) for E-BIKE
What's included: Right and left crank arms, installation boltsmirandabikestore.com
No, not yet. Waiting for 160mm. But Chris from VMG bikes allready received (170 mm) cranks and confirmed they fit BFG spline. I‘ll post here as soon as I ordered/ received the cranks!That would be great! Wrong spline in the pic though - you have a set coming?
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