Well i have to say i would prefer thinner tyres but the bike is built around either 29er wheels or 2.8 tyres on 650b rims. If i run smaller (thinner) tyres on the 650b rims it lowers the bottom bracket too much (for me)
Well i have to say i would prefer thinner tyres but the bike is built around either 29er wheels or 2.8 tyres on 650b rims. If i run smaller (thinner) tyres on the 650b rims it lowers the bottom bracket too much (for me)
Tonsyawn
how much have you ridden plus tyres?
Roflmfao.Tons
First rode 2.6, 2.7, 2.8, 3.0 around 1997-2000. and rode them all loads. ridden most of the current trendy sizes at some point and have tried more tyres than most as I ride pretty much everyone I meet/ride with's bike each time we stop and they faff about as most mtbers do. If we ever meet for a ride I'll probably have ridden your bike by the time you've got your car locked. If I think your tyres and pressures aren't for me don't take it personally.
FWIW I wasn't actually slagging off 2.6 tyres in my previous post, Just making a little joke remark about the gullibility of the cycling consumer
Whooooooooooshhhh...
I keep forgetting cyclists are more territiorial and touchy about the size of their tyres than their current partners ex's ****
Sorry.
And if you said it like that, I wouldn't. Whenever you mention Plus tyres it's as an absolute, not an opinion.If I think your tyres and pressures aren't for me don't take it personally.
250g more then the butcher grid?Just got the new Butcher BLCK DMND in today at the shop and mounted up on my Kenevo. 250g more weight per tire! I’ll try them out Thursday morning.
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Well Butcher Grid seems to average 990g to 1050g per tire. The tire I took off was 1080g and the new one weighed 1230g. I don’t know if the compound is any different from the stand Butcher Grid. But it seemed way grippier doing parking lot cutties.250g more then the butcher grid?
Not every tire works the same for every rider. Butcher feels like it’s on rails for me and I haven’t had the same success with Schwalbe.I only run snake skin side wall up front. Never tried the butcher on the rear. I ran the slaughter rear butcher front. In grid case. They held up well for sure. Just wish front was little more predictable
Not every tire works the same for every rider. Butcher feels like it’s on rails for me and I haven’t had the same success with Schwalbe.
To me there is nothing worse than finding something that works and then someone makes a recommendation that doesn’t work out. Mostly telling someone that you don’t like something they love and it makes them feel bad. That really sucks for me.
Most of the people on Pinkbike seem to revel in it.
I have great deal of respect for you. Your suspension knowledge is awesome. I made a suggestion that you could use that knowledge to help some of the other members get more out of their suspension set ups, instead of holding it over their heads that they didn’t know anything. You responded with a quiz. I was again impressed with your knowledge.That’s why i called out the dirt i have issues with it in. Also stated I’ve never used oneon the rear. I have a lot of dampening in my forks, more then double what comes in any fork on the market as i prefer my forks to work more linear then the endustry standards of using tokens to hold your fork up, or keep it from bottoming i also find that wide block knobs on hard surface with loose pee gravel on top cause the tire to roll on the top of the knob.
When i was in Scotland i found my tires i enjoy here didn’t work so goodover there as the ground had much more moisture in it.
I also really enjoyed my slaughter on rear until it rained and the ground got muddy. We have gone 3 months without a drop of rain. The dirt i ride on most is red clay base with granite and loose gravel, but by mid Summer the red clay gets powdery on top and you need a soft knob with med to small spacing to be consistent. My local bike shop i work with is a specialized dealer and most the guys in there swore by the butcher as well, till summer comes and most of them have gone to magic Mary for hard hot summer months.
So i really don’t feel you should take it to personal i don’t like the butcher. However i am very interested in trying the new hillbilly.
Quick tyre review,
Found the limits of the butchers quite quick on my local trails, issues I have faced with the butchers, they would sit on top of the dirt and often skate around, which has caused 3 or 4 crashes due to washing out the front, i can often feel the sidewalls flex alot into hard turns, very low braking ability which has caused several sketchy moments when it gets steep and trying to get my speed under control.
I have since fitted 2 Magic Mary DH Wirebead 2.6 tyres, and it has completely transformed the bike, I can run lower pressures without the undesired tyre flex I experienced with the butchers, there is a lot more grip under braking helping me get more control of the bike, i feel part of it rather than just been along for the ride. I can push the bike hard into corners and the front digs in and sends me in the right direction, very confidence inspiring and predictable tyres.
my findings are based on what i ride, steep, rutted, loamy, off-piste trails, it might have been different if I was riding more bike park/trail centre places, which I think the butchers are most likely more suited towards.
What width were your butchers , I met a guy at an enduro with a kinevo who was saying the same , and had fitted Mary’s in 2.6 , but he thought a lot of the problem was 2.8 was too wide , although I’ve not anyone who doesn’t rate the Mary as thier best gripping tyre for most conditions
@Tucker Why don't you just run the same set-up you had on your trail bike? (Yeah, I realise this would mean lacing narrower rims to your wheels and understand if you think it's too much hassle/cost)
There's absolutely no reason an E-bike needs anything different tyre wise than a similar travel/geometry non-ebike ridden on the same trails (other than possibly 1 or 2psi more pressure)
Swapping to the same (2.5/2.3 DHF/SS exo) tyres I run on my Enduro bike absolutely transformed my Ebike's handling. And made the bike way more nimble, playful and more fun to ride
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