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STUnlocker (ex Shimano STEPS Unlocker) Android & Windows App for derestriction/market change and etc

KuRi

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May 30, 2019
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I have just tried but it gets stuck on 0% when trying to update:

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KuRi

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May 30, 2019
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I tried several times... even after restarting...
Can you upload an iOS version as well? I bought both some time ago :D
 

vadII

E*POWAH Master
Feb 19, 2019
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576
Earth
Can you upload an iOS version as well? I bought both some time ago :D
It's uploaded for iOS, but it takes 1-2 days to approve the new version by Apple...
p.s. The new version (.108) was uploaded to Google Play also, may be it will work for you...
 

Mart-e

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Dec 13, 2020
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Australia
Recently had a wheel true - spoke tension - replaced cassette..... the WO11 appears?

Not realising the magnetic was offset l then turn on STU app for clues.... tapped on Circumference..... changing the selection then back to Custom.

As a result later reading on possible causes the misaligned magnet was to the cause WO11....
I realigned magnet.... All powered up which is pleasing... only now restricted back to the limit?

Would appreciate input, a way to be reconfigured please.
Thank you.


Thanks!
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vadII

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Feb 19, 2019
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576
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Recently had a wheel true - spoke tension - replaced cassette..... the WO11 appears?
You have a physical/electrical problem with the speed sensor. It has nothing to do with the settings of your bike.
 

Mart-e

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Dec 13, 2020
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You have a physical/electrical problem with the speed sensor. It has nothing to do with the settings of your bike
Thank you vadll validating a electrical problem a result of the speed sensor...... I will research for the replacement speed sensor to the reinstall.
Thanks again.
 
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aarfeldt

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May 25, 2019
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Recently had a wheel true - spoke tension - replaced cassette..... the WO11 appears?

Not realising the magnetic was offset l then turn on STU app for clues.... tapped on Circumference..... changing the selection then back to Custom.

As a result later reading on possible causes the misaligned magnet was to the cause WO11....
I realigned magnet.... All powered up which is pleasing... only now restricted back to the limit?

Would appreciate input, a way to be reconfigured please.
Thank you.


Thanks! View attachment 78188

What app is this ?
 

Mart-e

Member
Dec 13, 2020
78
42
Australia
You have a physical/electrical problem with the speed sensor. It has nothing to do with the settings of your bike.
Thank you vadll, l thought to run over this situation once more before upgrading parts another sensor.

Set up bike on the stand repositioned the magnet.... Took it for a run and fortunately NO error code is displaying..... the motor engages throughout the chosen settings Eco - boost.... only restricting the factory settings country of origin.... checked again on the app "Circumference" displaying "700c." I thought it possible "Custom" be chosen?

Just working on establishing wether the speed sensor still shows to be at fault as the error code no longer appears.
Thank you vadll.
 

Sgur

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Oct 22, 2018
10
4
Italy
Mmm, I just tested this on emax on my orbea rise and they were changed, and it did make a difference. After changing these params the new values appeared also on the stunlocker app (250,350,500W).

However when setting to 500W and 85nm the motor were doing some bad vibrations when battery < 30%.

I don't know how they did it but I know you are a very experienced developer with shimano motors so I trust your opinion a lot... Let me know if you need some screenshots. Thanks!
Hi KuRi I read you reported some bad vibrations after having modified original Rise power parameters. Can you tell me more about, problem still present? Do you think it’s to do with too much power allowed?
thank you
 

KuRi

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May 30, 2019
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Spain
Hi! Yes, after some more testing, it is all battery related. There is too much drain from the motor when >350W. That's why Orbea limited boost setting to 350W.

When the battery is full, you can use 400W-450W without problems, but as you reach 50% or less you start noticing some vibrations.

I have set up the boost setting to 400W and can be used for the whole range of battery with only some slight vibrations when <20% battery.

Hope this helps!
 

Sgur

Member
Oct 22, 2018
10
4
Italy
Hi! Yes, after some more testing, it is all battery related. There is too much drain from the motor when >350W. That's why Orbea limited boost setting to 350W.

When the battery is full, you can use 400W-450W without problems, but as you reach 50% or less you start noticing some vibrations.

I have set up the boost setting to 400W and can be used for the whole range of battery with only some slight vibrations when <20% battery.

Hope this helps!
thank you
Indeed it does! I‘m not going to increase max power this being the case…😱😳
 

gigabyte772

Member
Apr 19, 2020
10
2
USA
So I just got an Orbea Rise H10 but i upgraded fw to latest 4.1.8 by accident. I have copied the 2 files to the android fw folder, I tried to remove all files and just keep these 2 files and also just copied them with all other files, but it will not give me option to downgrade the software FW, it just stays on update page with no option to downgrade. Suggestions?
 

Nebo1ss

Member
Dec 21, 2021
48
18
London
So I just got an Orbea Rise H10 but i upgraded fw to latest 4.1.8 by accident. I have copied the 2 files to the android fw folder, I tried to remove all files and just keep these 2 files and also just copied them with all other files, but it will not give me option to downgrade the software FW, it just stays on update page with no option to downgrade. Suggestions?
The downgrade firmware normally have a file name larger than existing firmware. It is typically 5.0.2 on the file name but is actually 4.0.2 firmware and hence the system things it is upgrading not downgrading. You should typically delete all the files from the FW folder and replace only with the 2 files that you need to downgrade.
 

gigabyte772

Member
Apr 19, 2020
10
2
USA
The downgrade firmware normally have a file name larger than existing firmware. It is typically 5.0.2 on the file name but is actually 4.0.2 firmware and hence the system things it is upgrading not downgrading. You should typically delete all the files from the FW folder and replace only with the 2 files that you need to downgrade.
I tried that. It is not prompting to update firmware.
 

Nebo1ss

Member
Dec 21, 2021
48
18
London
Did you update the ETUBE application to version 5.0.3. `There is a comment in the update that says "Improved the modification detection function for unauthorised tuning" I wondered when i saw that how they could do it in ETUBE instead of the motor firmware but it is possible they are now preventing downgrades of the firmware somehow.

This is only a guess.
 

KuRi

Active member
May 30, 2019
376
186
Spain
I am not sure about downgrading but that could mean that it will detect if the motor output (in W) or torque has not the default values also...

Edited: Yes, it has been confirmed that you cannot downgrade (yet) with the latest e-tube app. You have to install an old version.
 
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gigabyte772

Member
Apr 19, 2020
10
2
USA
I am not sure about downgrading but that could mean that it will detect if the motor output (in W) or torque has not the default values also...

Edited: Yes, it has been confirmed that you cannot downgrade (yet) with the latest e-tube app. You have to install an old version.
Where can I get older version?
 

KuRi

Active member
May 30, 2019
376
186
Spain
No you dont need additional files there. I have only those two and it is working. Just be sure you have etube 5.0.2 or older.

however mine were 5.0.0 and 5.0.2 not 9.x.x
 

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