Levo Gen 4 Specialized launch Generation 4 Levo - Official Thread


Trek-Rail-eBike

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People complaining about the eMTB prices should take a look at road bike prices. They cost the same and don't have a motor, battery, front or rear suspension !

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electricbogaloo

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That's just fashion at this point. The roadies are way worse in that regard as the bikes are way less technically complex with way longer innovation cycles and they also don't differ that much from manufacturer to another. Yet the roadies obsess over which team replica jersey they wear etc. Its a bit like soccer fans buying overpriced jerseys from some popular soccer player or club.

For price sentitive folks things will get interesting once the german direct to consumer brands start implementing the new generation of motors.
 

WatermanJim

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How does the side load makes sense? The Rail+ comes out faster and its on the bottom of the down tube....
If a gen 3 bike is on a car rack or on a tailgate you can't get the battery out. Bottom mount like gen 1 requires the battery itself to be stronger structurally so it will be heavier and a cover in that area is too vulnerable so sideload with a simple rectangular battery is the best compromise. I bet Spesh had endless meetings about this.
 

WatermanJim

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That's just fashion at this point. The roadies are way worse in that regard as the bikes are way less technically complex with way longer innovation cycles and they also don't differ that much from manufacturer to another. Yet the roadies obsess over which team replica jersey they wear etc. Its a bit like soccer fans buying overpriced jerseys from some popular soccer player or club.

For price sentitive folks things will get interesting once the german direct to consumer brands start implementing the new generation of motors.
where is the next gen sram powertrain? They must be having problems.
 

electricbogaloo

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If a gen 3 bike is on a car rack or on a tailgate you can't get the battery out. Bottom mount like gen 1 requires the battery itself to be stronger structurally so it will be heavier and a cover in that area is too vulnerable so sideload with a simple rectangular battery is the best compromise. I bet Spesh had endless meetings about this.
One advantage of a removable battery is taking it out before having it to lift in on a rack etc.

where is the next gen sram powertrain? They must be having problems.
I think they ran into timing/supply chain problems with covid which probably delayed the whole thing. They are like one product cycle behind everyone in the motor department. When the drivetrain came out and was finally widely available the motor was out for a few years from other brands.
 

Biano44

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One advantage of a removable battery is taking it out before having it to lift in on a rack etc.


I think they ran into timing/supply chain problems with covid which probably delayed the whole thing. They are like one product cycle behind everyone in the motor department. When the drivetrain came out and was finally widely available the motor was out for a few years from other brands.
I think like all big ships, they took too long to turn. 🤷🏼‍♂️
 

emtbeast

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That's just fashion at this point. The roadies are way worse in that regard as the bikes are way less technically complex with way longer innovation cycles and they also don't differ that much from manufacturer to another. Yet the roadies obsess over which team replica jersey they wear etc. Its a bit like soccer fans buying overpriced jerseys from some popular soccer player or club.

For price sentitive folks things will get interesting once the german direct to consumer brands start implementing the new generation of motors.
I always wondered about road bike prices, what the heck 🤯, no extra parts the ones they have being fragile as fu...

Road bike tech is always lagging behind mtb...they realized pretty late that a bit wider with stronger sidewalls tire on today's quality of roads is faster, they are also investing insane amounts into aero r&d to gain 1% of less drag instead investing r&d into lightweight droppers to gain 10% less drag...but I know they will get there sometime in year 2127...

Then the ultimately boring racing format, every day they all start on the same point at the same time and every day they save energy in the main group to fight on climbs, ridiculous.

Let them start at the times the are lagging behind the leader, forbid groups of three or more and let riders ride like they are comfortable on bikes, there have been more crashes in the last years because of rules and the stupid racing format keeping them stacked like sardines in a can.

I will stop now🤣, afterall this is emtb forums.
 

luna87824

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Why is a couple of seconds any problems and Specialized battery takes less than 10 seconds to remove.
If you haven't been following along, let me refresh your memory......Everyone is saying the reason for the side mount battery was for quick removal of the battery, which is not the case. The more likely reason is,.......It was a DEI hire, put in charge of the project that screw things up!!
 

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