New Nicolai with Pinion gearbox announced

[madre]

HI Everyone, here is some information that not everyone may have. On the Nicolai site you can find a tech sheet for each bike as a public Google DOCs document. There is also the one for the Saturn 16 MGU with exploded drawings and torque for all screws. Possibly helpful for one or the other.

SATURN 16 MGU - 2025 - Tech-Sheet

docs.google.com

 

[madre]

I personally love the look of the raw the best. It just looks badass! Plus it’s also easier to maintain. No paint to chip, no anodizing to fade or scratch. Raw really doesn’t need much at all.

I like Raw very much too ,and it is absolutely robust . Unfortunately my eboxx is already raw and I just didn't want the new bike to look too much like the old one

 

[whitymon]

I just saw that
Is it not the same stuff? See that they have a top tube something instead of the remote on the handlebar, this would be way more suitable for emtb.

I guess Nicolai could do it one day.

NB: bike looks like crap.

 

[whitymon]

Well, looking at this

It just does not seem the best solution but maybe this with the basic eshift would keep the programming in the top tube?

 

[Picard12]

Does pinion motor have drag?

 

[Suns_PSD]

All internal transmissions have drag by their nature.

 

[Picard12]

All internal transmissions have drag by their nature.

How much drag is there? Do you feel the drag significantly when pedaling up hills?

 

[Dirtnvert]

Another good 155 crank option for pinion

Ollie Lowthorpe on Instagram: "The new @nsbillet Pinion Smart.shift cranks are out! Limited stock dropping on the site today. I've been using them for a while and they're a must have upgrade if you're using a Pinion gearbox. •VERY stiff and stron

146 likes, 1 comments - ollielowthorpe on October 7, 2024: "The new @nsbillet Pinion Smart.shift cranks are out! Limited stock dropping on the site today. I've been using them for a while and they're a must have upgrade if you're using a Pinion gearbox. •VERY stiff and strong •Lengths from...

www.instagram.com

 

[madre]

I just saw that
Is it not the same stuff? See that they have a top tube something instead of the remote on the handlebar, this would be way more suitable for emtb.

I guess Nicolai could do it one day.

NB: bike looks like crap.

Maybe its me .. but Bulls is absolutly not the same stuff than Nicolai ..

 

[whitymon]

I do not understand what you are referring to @madre , it is the same `engine`, belt, MGU, pinion.

Apart from that yeah, this is a CF frame with a bit less travel, somehow lesser component, price is not the same nor the target but still same system.

 

[kntr]

Maybe its me .. but Bulls is absolutly not the same stuff than Nicolai ..

I agree. The Bulls is a POS.

 

[Suns_PSD]

How much drag is there? Do you feel the drag significantly when pedaling up hills?

Can you feel the 20 watts of drag (just a guess, but it's been measured out there) on a full power e-bike? Probably not.

Can your battery feel it and therefore drains faster? Of course.

Which is exactly why the Pinion gearbox bikes already have a reputation for poor efficiency.

 

[DirkWisely]

From the relatively limited info I've seen, the Saturn seems roughly as efficient as other bikes.