We don't need a fully cover systems with fixations, the simply cover plate who can be adjusted to close the hole (initially build for other of your frame ?) will be enough for the majority of us i think, it's not absolutely necessary to have lips to manage water infiltration, we can do it with thick self-adhesive plastic plate. Alike done on my E10, that's working perfectely since 2 years. true building in alloy is not so difficult, it's just pity on a carbon frame. In add it's more heavy (to have strong).
Lightcarbon LCES004 (Dengfu E10 alternative in USA)
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We don't need a fully cover systems with fixations, the simply cover plate who can be adjusted to close the hole (initially build for other of your frame ?) will be enough for the majority of us i think, it's not absolutely necessary to have lips to manage water infiltration, we can do it with thick self-adhesive plastic plate. Alike done on my E10, that's working perfectely since 2 years. true building in alloy is not so difficult, it's just pity on a carbon frame. In add it's more heavy (to have strong).
Does the the f25 battery fit the m500/600 frames?
TCFlowClyde
Active member
Ditto...no 3D scanner/printer.
But if you live in the US, you can borrow one off one of my two BT-F03s IF this can be done. AND you're willing to tutor me on the battery 21700 cell pack build from the scratch, plus the latch fabrication, and BMS troubleshooting for my second unbuilt frame. I've never made a cell pack before but I'm willing to learn for battery more independence and power from Bafang. Just PM me
TCFlowClyde
Active member
No thanks. Remember, I have two of your LCES 004 Enduro geometry frames and two M600 motor kits. The M600 has plenty of power. I also have M620 fat bike...it's too powerful for the trails except in very low power modes. The M620 motor is very heavy making the bike 12 lbs more!
Most want LCSE004 Enduro frame on the M500/600. Lots of people want more battery capacity...the LCES004 frame can be upgraded by just simply producing a carbon cover (it doesn't need to be plastic or aluminun) as demonstrated by others on this forum.
If you want to sell more of this frame, isn't that cheapest option to maximize your company's profit?
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JimLee-Lightcarbon
Lightcarbon
Here is a solution. We use 3D printing to solve the battery cover.
3D printing is fit for small quantity products with complex structure.. We will design a 3D printing data mold and share it with the people who need it. for the buyer whom purchased the frame, they can download this model, find the local 3D printing shop, choose the materials they love, print a same cover as BT F03, and seal it completely.
If the buyer who has not purchased the frame needs the cover, we can help print it, cost about USD $40-50 according the material, and then shipping with the carbon frame or wheel,
For buyers who have purchased the frame, we can also help print, but the freight is relatively expensive. It will not be cost-effective to transport only one cover.
3D printing is fit for small quantity products with complex structure.. We will design a 3D printing data mold and share it with the people who need it. for the buyer whom purchased the frame, they can download this model, find the local 3D printing shop, choose the materials they love, print a same cover as BT F03, and seal it completely.
If the buyer who has not purchased the frame needs the cover, we can help print it, cost about USD $40-50 according the material, and then shipping with the carbon frame or wheel,
For buyers who have purchased the frame, we can also help print, but the freight is relatively expensive. It will not be cost-effective to transport only one cover.
JimLee-Lightcarbon
Lightcarbon
after we finished the 3D design of BT F03, we will make it public on the forum, For people who don't buy frames from us but need Bafang battery covers,
JimLee-Lightcarbon
Lightcarbon
The same voltage can be used. BT F25 requires 48V, while M500 has 38 / 43 / 48V options and M600 has 43 / 48V options. If your M500 / M600 is 48V, it can fit for BT F25
temon10
Well-known member
i will buy LCSE04 when it sell with empty battery case like Dengfu 
Jim lee (thank to it) propose to build battery cover alike OEM bafang BTF03. This one have 4 extrusion to fix it on battery.
Personally i will not use this 4 extrusion and i will prefer 2 holes on each cover extremity, positionned 1,5 cm under the extremity and at 2.5 cm on each side of the center of the cover. I think that everybody who need this cover to close the frame need more or less the same ? It is not difficult to modified the 3D file and print the cover with these modifications (in add more easy and quick to print without the 4 extrusions). The only problems is that everybody be agred, because lightcarbon could not print specific cover for each customers.
Say here if you agree (or propose other holes positioning)
Personally i will not use this 4 extrusion and i will prefer 2 holes on each cover extremity, positionned 1,5 cm under the extremity and at 2.5 cm on each side of the center of the cover. I think that everybody who need this cover to close the frame need more or less the same ? It is not difficult to modified the 3D file and print the cover with these modifications (in add more easy and quick to print without the 4 extrusions). The only problems is that everybody be agred, because lightcarbon could not print specific cover for each customers.
Say here if you agree (or propose other holes positioning)
Ok I have LCES004 with m600 48v. Does the bt f25 battery fit the LCES004 frame? And can you supply it? If yes, please let me know what it would cost.
This is my proposal for the BTF03 cover modification for homemade battery. I have not the frame currently, for those who have one, does the fixations holes are whell positioned ? it is better if i position it after the reinforcement ?
3Dmodel.step file is attached if somebody want to modified it (replace .pdf by .STEP)
remember, lightcarbon can propose only one model of cover. If modifications needed on this cover, said it before validation
thanks to captainhightop and RFN_31 (3Dprinter forum) for they help
3Dmodel.step file is attached if somebody want to modified it (replace .pdf by .STEP)
remember, lightcarbon can propose only one model of cover. If modifications needed on this cover, said it before validation
thanks to captainhightop and RFN_31 (3Dprinter forum) for they help
TCFlowClyde
Active member
Maybe PM KarokKaing on this thread to get his opinion?
KaroKönig builds themself the most beautiful covers in the univers
. It is not concerned by purchase other cover.It have not the BTF03 => it can't know if it is perfectly adapted to the lightcarbone frames or if it need some modification.
TCFlowClyde
Active member
I looked at KaroKonig's cover. I have the frame but I can't estimate if the your proposed cover holes are correct.KaroKönig builds themself the most beautiful covers in the univers
It have not the BTF03 => it can't know if it is perfectly adapted to the lightcarbone frames or if it need some modification.
same for me, I don't even have the frame. i have sent the file to jim lee (with some modifications) to request one with my frame, not really a problem for me if i need to modified it, but i hope it is satisfy the others purchaser (if any)
TCFlowClyde
Active member
Good effort!
TCFlowClyde
Active member
Keep us updated on your progress when you get your frame. Take lots of pics when you're ready to build your battery and latch mechanism.Good effort!
TCFlowClyde
Active member
Keep us updated on your progress when you get your frame. Take lots of pics when you're ready to build your battery and latch mechanism.
JimLee-Lightcarbon
Lightcarbon
I post the 3D model of full empty battery box, BT F03, anyone want the empty box can download it, or only the cover.
Dropbox
www.dropbox.com
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JimLee-Lightcarbon
Lightcarbon
and, is there anyone have the 3D model of bosch motor ( bosch performance cx size).
A customer wants to install Bosch motor on our framework adapted to Bafang M600 motor, but he can't give me detailed data like the M600 on picture,
Are there any DIY masters who have made similar attempts? Install Bosch motor on Bafang frame?
A customer wants to install Bosch motor on our framework adapted to Bafang M600 motor, but he can't give me detailed data like the M600 on picture,
Are there any DIY masters who have made similar attempts? Install Bosch motor on Bafang frame?
ArtInvent
New Member
STEP files - surprisingly not easy to import to Blender. Can anyone supply a model of the cover plate in OBJ, STL, or DAE format? Or .blend for that matter.
i will post .stl after working day
JimLee-Lightcarbon
Lightcarbon
can you help change the BT F03 empty box from .step to .stl?
Dropbox
www.dropbox.com
done "The uploaded file is too large", i sent the .zip to wendy
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Sorry,
I had only now seen that the LCES 004 thread continues here. Unfortunately, I can't say anything about 3D printing, I don't know enough about it. But I can show you a few more detailed photos of my mechanism if that helps
TCFlowClyde
Active member
Yes that would likely be helpful.Sorry,
I had only now seen that the LCES 004 thread continues here. Unfortunately, I can't say anything about 3D printing, I don't know enough about it. But I can show you a few more detailed photos of my mechanism if that helps
How latch works,How keyhole charging port is mounted, fixing mount of cover plate for opposite the latch-end.Thanks in advance
Yes that would likely be helpful.
Thanks in advance
The lock is clamped with an screw
The counterpart on the flap
The bottom of the flap
And the position of the charging socket
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