Lightcarbon LCE930 Custom Build - DV8

[Sayonara]

I am using a 203mm rotor on the front and 180mm on the rear. I had the same problem with adapters on both of my bikes and ended up with the Shimano adapters after returning a couple that didn't work. I didn't have to shim at all on my LCE930 but I did have to shim a bit on my other bike and my wife's bike.
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I am using Bucklos rotors on the front and rear. So far no issues with the rotors or brakes. I am about 3/4 through my first set of pads.
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Oh I thought you had 220mm in the front I'm thinking of trying 220mm rotor on the front since I prefer really powerful front brake. It might make the front brake too powerful but it's not a high cost just to test it out on the rear I don't think there is a scenario where bigger than 180mm rotor would be needed with these brakes.

 

[Sayonara]

@sandnap have you removed your cassette since you started riding the bike? I found these marks on the freewheel. I guess it's made of aluminium. I hope koozer makes stainless steel freewheel housings...

 

[Sayonara]

God damn it.. I guess I also need a new speed sensor cable soon..

 

[sandnap]

@sandnap have you removed your cassette since you started riding the bike? I found these marks on the freewheel. I guess it's made of aluminium. I hope koozer makes stainless steel freewheel housings...

I haven't but perhaps I should, that doesn't look good.

I wonder if the torque of the M560 is a bit too much for it.

 

[Sayonara]

I haven't but perhaps I should, that doesn't look good.

I wonder if the torque of the M560 is a bit too much for it.

Well could be but in my older bike I had barely any marks on my freewheel and I used it for over a year and other bike for 6 months before that. And those bikes had 10Nm more of torque. Now these marks have appeared in a month or two.

One of my friends told me that in the HG freewheel that I have they get these marks even if it's not an ebike if it's made out of aluminium and not stainless steel. He suggested that I should look if the hub manufacturer (Koozer?), in our case, makes them in stainless steel and replace it with that.

I'm just shocked how fast these marks appeared. I think both of old bikes had HG freewheel also but not sure if they were SS or aluminium..

 

[sandnap]

Well could be but in my older bike I had barely any marks on my freewheel and I used it for over a year and other bike for 6 months before that. And those bikes had 10Nm more of torque. Now these marks have appeared in a month or two.

One of my friends told me that in the HG freewheel that I have they get these marks even if it's not an ebike if it's made out of aluminium and not stainless steel. He suggested that I should look if the hub manufacturer (Koozer?), in our case, makes them in stainless steel and replace it with that.

I'm just shocked how fast these marks appeared. I think both of old bikes had HG freewheel also but not sure if they were SS or aluminium..

Same marks in mine.

For now I plan to keep an eye on it. I suspect that the worst damage will occur in the first few hundred miles while the surfaces conform but time will tell. If you find an alternative let me know, I'll look into it too.

Update, looks like they make them .

Update #2, I ordered one from aliexpress to have on hand. I think I'll keep the ALU one on for a while and see how it wears in the name of science.

 

[Sayonara]

Same marks in mine.
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For now I plan to keep an eye on it. I suspect that the worst damage will occur in the first few hundred miles while the surfaces conform but time will tell. If you find an alternative let me know, I'll look into it too.

Update, looks like they make them .

Update #2, I ordered one from aliexpress to have on hand. I think I'll keep the ALU one on for a while and see how it wears in the name of science.
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Great news that they make them then! Could you provide the link to it?

 

[sandnap]

Great news that they make them then! Could you provide the link to it?

2023 New Koozer B10-S Cr-Mo Steel Hardness MTB Bicycle Hub Cassette Body for XM490 PRO 460 XM390 HG 8-11S 12S Freehub Bike Parts

Ugh, it appears as though I unknowingly bought the last one from that supplier. Seeking other sources.

 

[Sayonara]

2023 New Koozer B10-S Cr-Mo Steel Hardness MTB Bicycle Hub Cassette Body for XM490 PRO 460 XM390 HG 8-11S 12S Freehub Bike Parts

Ugh, it appears as though I unknowingly bought the last one from that supplier. Seeking other sources.

Damn

Maybe this?

23 New KOOZER Bike Hub cassette body HG XD MS for XM490/490pro/XM460 replacement/assembly/spare parts - AliExpress 18

Smarter Shopping, Better Living! Aliexpress.com

a.aliexpress.com

 

[sandnap]

Damn

Maybe this?

23 New KOOZER Bike Hub cassette body HG XD MS for XM490/490pro/XM460 replacement/assembly/spare parts - AliExpress 18

Smarter Shopping, Better Living! Aliexpress.com

a.aliexpress.com

That's the one I bought. B10-S-HG

 

[Sayonara]

Damn

Maybe this?

23 New KOOZER Bike Hub cassette body HG XD MS for XM490/490pro/XM460 replacement/assembly/spare parts - AliExpress 18

Smarter Shopping, Better Living! Aliexpress.com

a.aliexpress.com

@sandnap they pulled these also.. I guess they had them wrongly listed and they were out of stock... Aparently they will get more in 2 months.

I just fear my cassette will dig itself into freehub body by then and I won't get them apart

Let me know when you get yours!


I've also been having problems finding 2.0 thick brake rotors on aliexpress. Also finding 220mm rotors seems impossible. I don't understand why you can buy tens of rotors that are up to 203mm wide rotors and 1.9mm thick for $5 and up but if you try to find 2.0 thick or 220mm wide price jumps to $40 or so..

 

[Sayonara]

Our brakes!


Found a great comment on the video!

 

[sandnap]

Our brakes!


Found a great comment on the video!

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I watched that this morning! I think it was for the most part a fair review but the knowledge in that comment (that we already knew) overcomes the parts support downside. Those parts are available pretty much everywhere. Hopefully they will test it with metal pads.

 

[Sayonara]

I watched that this morning! I think it was for the most part a fair review but the knowledge in that comment (that we already knew) overcomes the parts support downside. Those parts are available pretty much everywhere. Hopefully they will test it with metal pads.

Yeah. Although I have a feeling they knew all that already. These brakes have been sold for few years already under different name. They just didn't want to publicly say stuff like that comment mentioned because they might fear missing future sponsor deals etc from hope/shimano and possibly from other brands if they see them advertising how good some of the China parts are.

 

[sandnap]

Yeah. Although I have a feeling they knew all that already. These brakes have been sold for few years already under different name. They just didn't want to publicly say stuff like that comment mentioned because they might fear missing future sponsor deals etc from hope/shimano and possibly from other brands if they see them advertising how good some of the China parts are.

Makes sense. Owen wasn't expecting them to be good and could have focused on the negatives, I am glad he was honest about the finish and performance. I thought for sure he was going to dismiss them for the reasons you mentioned above.

I have a feeling this video is going to generate a lot of orders. I have been meaning to order a set for my other bike, I better get on it.

 

[Sayonara]

Makes sense. Owen wasn't expecting them to be good and could have focused on the negatives, I am glad he was honest about the finish and performance. I thought for sure he was going to dismiss them for the reasons you mentioned above.

I have a feeling this video is going to generate a lot of orders. I have been meaning to order a set for my other bike, I better get on it.

I tried to get my friend order a pair so I could switch my black ones to purple ones
When I ordered mine I went with black because I wasn't 100% sure if I want gold (which can be found on the black pair) or purple accents on my bike and I chose black ones because they look great with everything but now that I have ditched the gold and got some purple on my bike the purple brakes would look insane on my bike!

 

[sandnap]

I tried to get my friend order a pair so I could switch my black ones to purple ones
When I ordered mine I went with black because I wasn't 100% sure if I want gold (which can be found on the black pair) or purple accents on my bike and I chose black ones because they look great with everything but now that I have ditched the gold and got some purple on my bike the purple brakes would look insane on my bike!

Haha well you tried. I just ordered a red pair for my other ebike. I went with red accents on that one but the purple looks awesome, I kind of wish I went that way but it's too red at this point.

 

[Sayonara]

All of the colors look awesome imo!

 

[brbr]

These are good brakes but for the same price I can get Shimano XT on rczbikeshop, so I’m going with Shimano

 

[Sayonara]

I installed my new Galfer Wave 2.0mm thick 223mm rotor. After it's dry outside I will go test and give some feedback. I'm wondering about the Bh59 to bh90 change though. If I do that do I need to do it to both ends of the hose or only lever end?

 

[sandnap]

I installed my new Galfer Wave 2.0mm thick 223mm rotor. After it's dry outside I will go test and give some feedback. I'm wondering about the Bh59 to bh90 change though. If I do that do I need to do it to both ends of the hose or only lever end?

Good question regarding the bh90. It Seems like you would need it on both ends otherwise you still have the bottleneck.

I will wait patiently for your review on the thicker, taller rotors. Might be a winter upgrade for me if it goes well.

 

[Sayonara]

Hi again mate Have you bled the calipers? I'm not sure if I somehow lost the correct bleed connector from the ezmb bleed kit or what has happened but I can't find a proper connector that would fit the caliper side... all of my fittings seem to be too big for the caliper bleed hole as it's much smaller.

Have you changed the rear hub cap for the steel one yet? They have been sold out this whole time.. last time they said they will get more at the start of this month and now they are saying end of this month..

 

[sandnap]

Hi again mate Have you bled the calipers? I'm not sure if I somehow lost the correct bleed connector from the ezmb bleed kit or what has happened but I can't find a proper connector that would fit the caliper side... all of my fittings seem to be too big for the caliper bleed hole as it's much smaller.

Have you changed the rear hub cap for the steel one yet? They have been sold out this whole time.. last time they said they will get more at the start of this month and now they are saying end of this month..

Hello the brakes still feel solid so I haven't attempted to bleed the calipers yet. I also haven't installed the steel cassette body. The riding season is coming to an end here soon and I plan on tearing down and inspecting the entire bike at which point I will be taking care of these things. You'll have to let me know how the bleed goes if you can find the right fitting.

Enjoying the LCE971 & M560?

 

[Sayonara]

Hello the brakes still feel solid so I haven't attempted to bleed the calipers yet. I also haven't installed the steel cassette body. The riding season is coming to an end here soon and I plan on tearing down and inspecting the entire bike at which point I will be taking care of these things. You'll have to let me know how the bleed goes if you can find the right fitting.

Enjoying the LCE971 & M560?

Sadly I wasn't able to find the proper bleed connector. I found something similar from a different bleed kit my friend had and I was able to do decent bleed but not a proper one. The connector did not seal like it should have.

I changed my hoses and olive+needle inserts all from bh59 to bh90. The hoses alone should make a huge difference.

Looking forward to hear from you when you tear the bike apart! Let me know if you find a proper bleed connector for the caliper!

The m560 750w has been better than I could have ever imagined. Nothing bad to say about that.

I had few small problems with the frame. There was some small defects inside the rear triangle and there were couple sharp edges were the carbon fibre had not properly set. Those were enough to rip my cable housing apart. I looked inside with a borescope and took few pictures. The inside was very smooth and nice except the "corner" part of the rear triangle where the cables go inside the front triangle.

I took few pictures and sent them to Jim and let him know about it. Next day I received a message from Jim letting me know that they will make me a new rear triangle but I have to wait few weeks because they have to use different mold for it.

Other than that I feel like the frames bolts are too soft as I have taken it apart few times to service and check on bearings etc and they already have some deformation. I will have to order new set of bolts from Lightcarbon at the same time as they send me the new rear triangle.

I had this same problem with motor mount bolts and I ordered titanium bolts and nuts from aliexpress for it.

I think this is partly my mistake as I used tools with too high hardness. I bet if I had softer tools the rounding would have not happened so fast.

But the bike is extremely fun to ride! Love it. I made holes for the cables and took most of the cables away from the headset routing. I felt the cables that does not move with the rear triangle/suspension there and moved rear brake and shift cable to go through the frame and not headset.

I also upgraded from Microshift Advent 9-speed to Shimano XT Linkglide 11-speed. Have not been able to test that yet as I have been doing this brake upgrades at the same time.

Edit: the rockshock super deluxe ultimate with HBO (hydraulic bottom out) is insanely good! I hope everyone will get to test it out!

 

[AvantGarde]

Same marks in mine.
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For now I plan to keep an eye on it. I suspect that the worst damage will occur in the first few hundred miles while the surfaces conform but time will tell. If you find an alternative let me know, I'll look into it too.

Update, looks like they make them .

Update #2, I ordered one from aliexpress to have on hand. I think I'll keep the ALU one on for a while and see how it wears in the name of science.
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hey bud, i've seen all your DIY videos on YT amazing work
do you think the MS hub version would be better...thinking the "teeth" been more, can give a better traction and less usage? i have this dilemma too ) i've seen many cases like this.
Thanks
C.

 

[stepphiesecret]

I haven't but perhaps I should, that doesn't look good. Eldfall Chronicles: Northern Wind

I wonder if the torque of the M560 is a bit too much for it.

Yeah definitely!

 

[sandnap]

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hey bud, i've seen all your DIY videos on YT amazing work
do you think the MS hub version would be better...thinking the "teeth" been more, can give a better traction and less usage? i have this dilemma too ) i've seen many cases like this.
Thanks
C.

Somehow I missed your question. I don't know, it might be worth trying. If someone else has experience with aluminum MS hubs perhaps they can chime in.