Dengfu E10 - The CHEEB V1.0 - Discussion

[Zimmerframe]

really looking forward to this being completed, if its as affordable as it seems then I might be able to get one together for my son and my wife.

10 years ago it was all Russian Brides, now it's all Chinese Rides.

 

[Pdoz]

Also they included a throttle control. For about 5 seconds I thought it would be a good idea to fit ?

Go on...fit the throttle....or at least start the poll asking on new years eve.

With covid threatening traditional fireworks, it's your civic responsibility to explode a few samsungs.

 

[GrandPaBrogan]

Or even this one?

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Is that 'touch-screen' power mode switching??

 

[GrandPaBrogan]

Also they included a throttle control. For about 5 seconds I thought it would be a good idea to fit ?

YOU CAN DO IT! ?

According to my wife, it's the best feature in her Bafang BBS01. She still hasn't twigged that she could use it all the time, haha. I only told her it's a "get back up on your bike assist button," if she has to get going again on an awkward uphill incline. Which is all she uses it for... until she hit it by accident on one occasion and nearly rode up a tree - those in our riding group were all in stitches laughing!

 

[R120]

Matching carpet and all - looking good, has hints of Decoy from that angle

 

[Zimmerframe]

second point. It will be necessary to found an solution to avoid that a pebble gets stuck in the articulation of the oscillating arm, if this happens, something will break.

There are quite a few guards you can buy which will protect that area. Unfortunately, most of them somehow funnel debris round the outside and down. I made my own in the end from a cheap "clip to your saddle" mudguard :

I hardly ever get any dirt in the lower linkage :

Just trim it to the correct length and width. Make some holes for Zip ties.

Mount it....

Bend it so it doesn't rub the frame - but is near enough that it doesn't act as a dirt funnel !

 

[GrandPaBrogan]

New recomendations rob. first, if you can try it in 29" before "mulet". after ride, for my part i keep that and i will not mount an rear 27.5.

second point. It will be necessary to found an solution to avoid that a pebble gets stuck in the articulation of the oscillating arm, if this happens, something will break.
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Did you spray paint the frame yourself or did you order it already like that?

 

[Zimmerframe]

what is the bash guard ? the chain guide ? it use only 2 screws, it have several another hole for different orientation of the motor, i do not use the OEM chain guide, i have adapted another more little who do not need to dismatle the chain to remove it.

La protection du moteur. Le plastique ? la protection que vous avez installée sous le moteur.

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[RustyMTB]

La protection du moteur. Le plastique ? la protection que vous avez installée sous le moteur.

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L'arrette pierre, surement? ????

 

[CRFan1]

What about power levels 4 and 5?

This is the crappy Bafang programming. On my 600 I use the 5 PAS levels and 3/4/5 have a ton of power....I never use anything more then 3 but again it is almost too much....If there is ever a way to dial it down it will extend range for sure.

 

[Mcharza]

L'arrette pierre, surement? ????

Zimm is in France Pierre?

 

[Zimmerframe]

Zimm is in France Pierre?

O'is this Pierre and why is he stoned ?

 

[paul-g]

Zimm is in France Pierre?

e is rally monsieur "Renee" but in disgoose

 

[patdam]

Did you spray paint the frame yourself or did you order it already like that?

ordered

 

[Nasty Nick]

Nice tips thanks @patdam

mine pretty much ready now.

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Just a few bits. Tidy cables, bleed brakes torque everything up etc

Looks like an import

 

[Waynemarlow]

Bad points. The throttle, I use it for walk mode, but it is too powerful, difficult to adjust speed to walk and if it stop front a stone (where you would to increased a few power with throttle), the programming say "error 21" (spreed sensor defect) and it is necessary to switch off/on the motor to continue. I will ask to bafang if it not possible to set the throttle to have max power at 100 wats (alike the setting i have done on BBS).

This is a common fault report on other forums with the M600 motor, the throttle is only a zero to full on I'm afraid. After all isn't that what motorcycle throttles do

 

[paul-g]

Not really, i have only performed holes in lower support to evacuate water concentration, for my opinion it is enougth. I take care also when i clean it with karcher, i have built an cover to avoid to project dirctely water on each side, at level of junction of battery cover and frame. I clean it after with sponge. If one day i plan to ride under water ((usually never occur) apylly scotch plate on each side will prevent water infiltration. Of course, i hope that nobody will try to cross water upper the motor level ?

well we`ve had Captain Webb and numerous other people swim it
now we`ve got "Patdam" going to bloody bike it.
for gods sake Patdam don`t tell the "asylum" seekers cos we won`t need
the coastguard cutters we`ll need the bloody subs
Merry Xmas everybody

 

[markus datgloi]

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Where is the little alloy (?) plate for on the upper end of the battery cover ?

 

[Waynemarlow]

Have you see solution ? i am not any fluent in english (you have notted ?) to easly find it. i have built wire to connect controler to an application to ride canbus communication. It seem you can modified the program, but i do not really control this technical and i do not want to play with that. The only explaination found is for increase the speed limit, not necessity for me.

Yup at this moment on a relatively new design, you have got limited control of the parameters unfortunately, speed is about the only useable parameter you can change.

When I bought my frame back in the summer, Euro speed was the one thing that put me off the M500 together with the very limited spares and software such as the likes of Blevo. That’s changing rapidly and the TSDZ2 engine I have in mine may well get changed out. Bit of a balance as the TSDZ2 engine is a known engine to me and has a wide pick of spares and software at a budget price. Having owned a BBS2 and had great reliability, I would put the Bafang as a much better build quality.

 

[patdam]

Yup at this moment on a relatively new design, you have got limited control of the parameters unfortunately, speed is about the only useable parameter you can change.

When I bought my frame back in the summer, Euro speed was the one thing that put me off the M500 together with the very limited spares and software such as the likes of Blevo. That’s changing rapidly and the TSDZ2 engine I have in mine may well get changed out. Bit of a balance as the TSDZ2 engine is a known engine to me and has a wide pick of spares and software at a budget price. Having owned a BBS2 and had great reliability, I would put the Bafang as a much better build quality.

OK, i am surprise when you say this motor is new design ? we can see that is proposed since 2017, it is the raison why i have purchased, even i found few brand who use it. I know that chiness companies transfer develloping of his products to customer and i had supposed that since 2017 it is fiabilised. I would be wrong ?

 

[Waynemarlow]

OK, i am surprise when you say this motor is new design ? we can see that is proposed since 2017, it is the raison why i have purchased, even i found few brand who use it. I know that chiness companies transfer develloping of his products to customer and i had supposed that since 2017 it is fiabilised. I would be wrong ?

The M600 has been around for a while, the M500 much less so.

 

[CRFan1]

Cheers. It’s the countersunk screws that I don’t have. I have the rear 2 screws. Just not the front ones.

Should be easy enough to find and be careful torqueing those up! The brass nut will "pop" if you go too tight......don't ask me how I know, lol

 

[DrStupid]

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I'm impressed Rob. Your fast and apparently pretty dam good too. Your hired...now how much do you want for the bike? Lol.

 

[Doomanic]

Forks need painting to match the frame...

 

[jimbob]

Have to say that looks very nice!

I'm hoping it rides well as I may have to make an investment if so!

 

[CRFan1]

I am amazed at how fast you built this up! The bike looks stellar and I can't wait to hear your ride report!

 

[Jeffrey]

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Nice looking bike, awesome build! ??
Did you already weight the bike?

 

[Duggan]

Looks awesome ?? well done Rob ??

 

[R120]

Yes. 24.5 KG.
could be easily under 24 with Lyrik and DHF / DHR combo. These tyres weigh 1.3Kg each and the fork is 2.2KG.

Is that with the monster battery? Pretty impressive if it is

 

[Rob Rides EMTB]

If you don't mind me asking, did it end up within your original budget?

Yes. Original cost as in the first couple of posts. But I added paint, so £150 for the flip paint.