Bafang m510

[Martin (Mallorca Guiding)]

i buy only with battery case, so i can make maximum of 48v 17.5ah

Hi, This Flora told me that only 43v will fit this frame.. I prefer the look of your frame... how did you do it?? where did you buy the battery or did you just make yourself??? Please, if you do not mind.. let us know... thanks. What made you go for this frame as opposed to the 1 we are getting?? thanks

 

[temon10]

Have you built it up?? Do you have any finished photos? how does it ride? are you happy with Flora?? I've had a bit of a nightmare if truth be known...

so far already make some transacton with her and never get disapponted. some little delay on shipping but it's normal.

Hi, This Flora told me that only 43v will fit this frame.. I prefer the look of your frame... how did you do it?? where did you buy the battery or did you just make yourself??? Please, if you do not mind.. let us know... thanks. What made you go for this frame as opposed to the 1 we are getting?? thanks

i have friend here can assembly battery, i choose this model cause it use Trunnion 205 rearshock. Maybe your frame model can only use bafang battery that it's only available 43v. sorry for my bad english.

 

[temon10]

Also, has anyone found a way to fix the motor turning off (for a second or fraction of a second) in mode 1 and 2 when riding flat or up a slight uphill. I read that the m510 takes a little longer (about a minute) to calibrate when turned on. But waiting more than a minute doesn't help remove the turn offs on my motor.
Many thanks!

whta firmware u have installed on your M510?

 

[iscander13]

whta firmware u have installed on your M510?

What was in box. Actually i don know how check it

 

[patdam]

Also, has anyone found a way to fix the motor turning off (for a second or fraction of a second) in mode 1 and 2 when riding flat or up a slight uphill. I read that the m510 takes a little longer (about a minute) to calibrate when turned on. But waiting more than a minute doesn't help remove the turn offs on my motor.
Many thanks!

enter in the HMI parameters (check procedure in line following your model). Display controller hardware version and press + to see software version

 

[iscander13]

enter in the HMI parameters (check procedure in line following your model). Display controller hardware version and press + to see software version

Thank you for the comment. I have these figures

 

[iscander13]

About the rattling sound when passing obstacles. The sound is definitely coming from the motor when I am standing on the pedals. There is no noise when I pedal on rocks. I did a test at home. Constant pressure on the left pedal. I swing the motor shaft through the chain. The sound is the same as what I hear when I ride downhill. Does anyone have the same sound?

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Guys what about sound? Do you have similar sounds?

 

[patdam]

Thank you for the comment. I have these figures

Thank you for the comment. I have these figures

View attachment 104080 View attachment 104081

You have the 1.0 hardware and 3.1 soft. It's seem that for somebody the 3.1-CS solve the problem of power variation at low PAS, not for me. I don't know if it's possible to upload without BESST tool ? May be you can find somebody near your localisation who have one ?

 

[Sick Sinus]

Does anyone know where I could buy the DP E181.CAN?

 

[temon10]

After tested M510 V2 about 100km here's my thought :
1. Smoother feeling
2. No more on off assist on light pedalling at flat terrain
3. No need to wait 10 seconds or more to operate
4. More natural feeling
5. Can be tuned via Besst Pro, already tested and i guarantee it's working
6. Less battery consumption after tuned with besst pro, with 840Wh just use 1 bar for about 40kms with 1000m elevation gain.
7. But it sound little louder than v1 , especially on high cadence

For me this is the best M series i ever had. I already had M600, M500, M410 and M510 v1. Next will try M820 for lightweight EMTB, hope March will arrive.

 

[thaeber]

After tested M510 V2 about 100km here's my thought :
1. Smoother feeling
2. No more on off assist on light pedalling at flat terrain
3. No need to wait 10 seconds or more to operate
4. More natural feeling
5. Can be tuned via Besst Pro, already tested and i guarantee it's working
6. Less battery consumption after tuned with besst pro, with 840Wh just use 1 bar for about 40kms with 1000m elevation gain.
7. But it sound little louder than v1 , especially on high cadence

For me this is the best M series i ever had. I already had M600, M500, M410 and M510 v1. Next will try M820 for lightweight EMTB, hope March will arrive.

Did You test battery attenuation? Any power drop below 40/30/20/10% SoC?

 

[temon10]

Did You test battery attenuation? Any power drop below 40/30/20/10% SoC?

power drop on 20% sadly

 

[thaeber]

Oh - significantly? Did You observe the max Watt/Amps available below 20/10%?
Can it be adjusted with Besst Pro?

 

[temon10]

Oh - significantly? Did You observe the max Watt/Amps available below 20/10%?
Can it be adjusted with Besst Pro?

not yet observe because now i use E181 HMI. Can't adjust with besst pro, no menu for that.

 

[iscander13]

After tested M510 V2 about 100km here's my thought :
1. Smoother feeling
2. No more on off assist on light pedalling at flat terrain
3. No need to wait 10 seconds or more to operate
4. More natural feeling
5. Can be tuned via Besst Pro, already tested and i guarantee it's working
6. Less battery consumption after tuned with besst pro, with 840Wh just use 1 bar for about 40kms with 1000m elevation gain.
7. But it sound little louder than v1 , especially on high cadence

For me this is the best M series i ever had. I already had M600, M500, M410 and M510 v1. Next will try M820 for lightweight EMTB, hope March will arrive.

Were you able to defeat on/off assist on v1 with the firmware?

 

[iscander13]

Interesting. What is difference between v1 and v2?

 

[iscander13]

Has anyone solved the problem with the assist on/off by changing the software?

 

[temon10]

Were you able to defeat on/off assist on v1 with the firmware?

Guys, sharing 48V version 3.2 and revision " .i " (second version of motors).

Good behaviour, just when you reaching limit speed, you feel heavy resistance in pedals (which is caused with motor current controlling, not a resistance in transmission). So u need to have it speed unlocked.

try use this firmware. my v1 doing good with that firmware.

 

[patdam]

For those who have controller rev1.0 and they can't upload rev 3.5 and 3.6 (like me), BAFANG have sent to me an rev 3.6 who i can uplioad without any problems. I can't try it currently (too many rain),.If somebody try it, share your opinion.

 

[patdam]

For those who have controller rev1.0 and they can't upload rev 3.5 and 3.6 (like me), BAFANG have sent to me an rev 3.6 who i can uplioad without any problems. I can't try it currently (too many rain),.If somebody try it, share your opinion.

I have quickly test it under water. Too happy, no more power variations.
correction, after test on mountain, the power variations still occur. too bad


It have also a little time gap between cranks stop and motor stop. May be it's that who also prevent cutoff ? i can deal with it if i have no more power variations. And may be that could be an advantage in technical uphill when needs change position of crankarms ?

 

[thaeber]

I have quickly test it under water. Too happy, no more power variations.

It have also a little time gap between cranks stop and motor stop. May be it's that who also prevent cutoff ? i can deal with it if i have no more power variations. And may be that could be an advantage in technical uphill when needs change position of crankarms ?

Just to understand: Are You talking about controller rev „E“ or rev „I“ according to Github specifications? What firmware did You run before updating?

 

[patdam]

Just to understand: Are You talking about controller rev „E“ or rev „I“ according to Github specifications? What firmware did You run before updating?

At this time the only firmware who i could upload are 3.2 and 3.1-CS from rev "I". My controller hardware is rev CR X10N.510.FC 1.0.

My supplier have already sent me an 3.6 rev, but it could not download to my controller. Bafang have sent me this other 3.6 rev, and this one download and functioning.

Unfortunately, i don't think we can trust in file name, too easy to change it and too many circulate. In any case this one perform great modification in motor functioning at low charge. It will take more time and ride to saied more.

 

[thaeber]

At this time the only firmware who i could upload are 3.2 and 3.1-CS from rev "I". My controller hardware is rev CR X10N.510.FC 1.0.

My supplier have already sent me an 3.6 rev, but it could not download to my controller. Bafang have sent me this other 3.6 rev, and this one download and functioning.

Unfortunately, i don't think we can trust in file name, too easy to change it and too many circulate. In any case this one perform great modification in motor functioning at low charge. It will take more time and ride to saied more.

Thanks mate! So I‘ll give it a try as well. Would be interesting to get @Dado feedback on this new firmware. And it would be great if someone could upload it to GitHub

 

[triacontakaidigon]

so far already make some transacton with her and never get disapponted. some little delay on shipping but it's normal.

i have friend here can assembly battery, i choose this model cause it use Trunnion 205 rearshock. Maybe your frame model can only use bafang battery that it's only available 43v. sorry for my bad english.

How far is the seat stay bridge to the seattube at full travel? You think 205x60 can work? What is also the size of dropper that you use? Sorry for many questions.

 

[temon10]

How far is the seat stay bridge to the seattube at full travel? You think 205x60 can work? What is also the size of dropper that you use? Sorry for many questions.

sorry i'm still not assembly to full bike. dropper post size 31.6

 

[triacontakaidigon]

sorry i'm still not assembly to full bike. dropper post size 31.6

Please let me know when you do. Interested to see if we can maximize trunnion shock from 57.5mm stroke to 60 or even 65.

 

[Dado]

Hello guys.

Experimenting with M510 controller v2.0. And again getting sick of it.
There are some new settings, just BESST Pro is not storing setup (I have only python login script for BESST Pro).
But what is worse it is defaulting into ridiculous power levels - 50% 75% 100% 100% 100%


If somebody has real login credential, can somebody share to try if this is just another bafang bug or if would work with real login?

And got also new colour display DPC 245. Looks good, I like new smaller buttons. Just was changed PASS levels 0 1 2 3 4 5 to 0 E T S S+ B (I like more numbers, you can orient faster when u look at display). And looks like PASS level 3 and 9 is gone, new display has only 5 levels.

 

[Dado]

For those who have controller rev1.0 and they can't upload rev 3.5 and 3.6 (like me), BAFANG have sent to me an rev 3.6 who i can uplioad without any problems. I can't try it currently (too many rain),.If somebody try it, share your opinion.

Thanks mate for a firmware.

Will do a summary as starting to be mess with firmware version numbers and revision.

There was 3 revisions with M510 controller v1.0 (In file name after "i" 1010)

Very first revisions: 0x89 0x45 - check for first 2 bytes in hex file (switch to HEX view) - this one looks to me like controller from M600 as has same identification bytes
Second revision: 0x90 0x69 - firmware version 48V - v3.1 v3.2 v3.6
Third revision: 0x91 0x69 - firmware version 48V - v3.5

Revisions can not be mixed.
Patdam, can u pls. share bin file v3.6 for third revision?


M510 with controller 2.0 (in a file name 8010 after "F" - MMG522C3619F801005.1)
identification bytes can not tell now. We need to get some bin file. Not sure if is possible to read bin file from motor.

 

[Dado]

Thanks mate! So I‘ll give it a try as well. Would be interesting to get @Dado feedback on this new firmware. And it would be great if someone could upload it to GitHub

Hello. Unfortunatelly dont have the second revision of M510. Now only third revision and new controller 2.0

 

[Catweazle]

Unfortunately I only have one for 43 volts