Levo Gen 2 Are Brose & Specialized Fixing Their Motor Problem ?

philmedomsley

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Apr 28, 2020
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I am lucky as well. Two and a half year old Levo 4500+ miles, ride all through the year in the north of England. My partners Levo has 5000+ miles. Both bikes jet washed after every ride. Neither bike has had any issues.
Update. First new motor fitted this week after 5000+ miles. Hope the new one lasts as long.😀
 

#lazy

E*POWAH BOSS
Oct 1, 2019
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Surrey
Unfortunately, It's common but not normal. In your case the left hand crankshaft bearing is in desperate need of replacement. As this bearing sounds so bad, I would suspect a few of the other bearings too.
Well done for doing this simple test and spotting this issue though! You may have saved yourself from having a totally destroyed motor soon.
Edit Would that noise get you a warranty replacement ?
 
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Snrbrtsn

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Well I’ve plagued this thread for long enough in search, now I’ve found…
An unusual failure and cause of my cracking/creaking under load from previous pages
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Snrbrtsn

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No plastic casing damage these are the rear most motor mounts so shielded from potential, tucked behind chain ring and chainstay
On the other side, there’s a hairline fracture on one side
I could categorically rule out loose bolts & overtorque
 

Bearing Man

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Well I’ve plagued this thread for long enough in search, now I’ve found…
An unusual failure and cause of my cracking/creaking under load from previous pages
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This usually happens if one of the motors mounting bolts are tightened to full torque before the others are nipped up. It can also happen if the other three mounting bolts loosen over time, while one remains tight.

This is a fixable problem, but unfortunately not as straight forward as it looks. The motor body contains the planetary gear and electric motor assembly, and this is pressed together in a way that is extremely difficult to remove. The problem being that the three phase electric motor has an angle magnet mounted on the end of the armature that is calibrated to the ECU (the motors brain). This means that you can't just change the motor body for a new one as the motor angle will be wrong, causing noise, lack of power or overheating. Being magnesium, the case is also virtually impossible to weld.
We have designed and made a very expensive 10 tonne hydraulic hand puller to remove the internal components and press them into a new case. This way we can keep the original ECU and drive train.
 

rodomotion

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Sep 3, 2019
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Chile
Hello, eBike Motor Centre.
Hello, I think my motors' fooked!
OK, whats it doing?
The pedals are stiff to turn backwards and forwards.
Have you changed the front chainring lately?
Yes.
Did you use the Brose tool when you pulled the spider off?
No.
OK, send it in and we'll sort it out.
I changed the chainring by myself but didn't have to pulled the spider off, was just like every other chainring. Is my bike fooked? :ROFLMAO:
 

Snrbrtsn

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Well elated I can update
Whilst time constraint, my time out of country delayed repair

My motor has been replaced under warranty, a big thanks to Bike Remedy, Stonehaven, Aberdeenshire for sublime service & equal thanks to Specialized warranty

With equal merit, @Bearing Man gave unpresidential support & resolve prior to my approach for warranty, communicated a solution very timely in response to post, which echoes the service excellence we should all hold of him, Peter really is a top bloke and goes that extra mile, over and above - Thank you!

Bike was taken home today, full bolt check with torque wrench and manual, with such a strong support network I’ve lost all inhibitions of trying to destroy! Time to enjoy “again”
 

1oldfart

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Oct 6, 2019
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I never bought one because of all the failures i read about.
Maybe in 5 years if the next 5 years they get their shit together.
 

RebornRider

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May 31, 2019
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Some people focus on the good, some people focus on the bad.

I crossed the 4 year mark a month ago and still have no purchase regrets. I had one no-questions-asked motor replacement about 3 years ago, and the replacement is still quiet and trouble free. The Levo does everything I want it to.
 

DS.

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Mar 15, 2019
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Two of are bikes are out of warranty so probably be buying a motor soon always seem to fail around 2000 miles
 

Kimmoi

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Jul 6, 2018
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I'm little confused about all these broken motors.
I rode year around in Finland. Sometimes it's -30celsius, sometimes +30 celsius. Rain, snow, mud. About 80% of time i use turbo, all out and no mercy. One broken aftermarket motor guard, so there's been lots of hits also.
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In winter time bike is outside 8 hours per day, five days per week.
I don't remove battery at all. So it is sometimes 8 hours at -30 celsius.

9500 km now and original motor. Battery health 100% 🤷
 
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Bearing Man

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I'm little confused about all these broken motors.
I rode year around in Finland. Sometimes it's -30celsius, sometimes +30 celsius. Rain, snow, mud. About 80% of time i use turbo, all out and no mercy. One broken motor guard, so there's been lots of hits also.

In winter time bike is outside 8 hours per day, five days per week.
I don't remove battery at all. So it is sometimes 8 hours -30 celsius.

9500 km now and original motor. Battery health 100% 🤷
That's not an ebike, that's a Unicorn!
 

Kimmoi

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Brose or Specialized will probably buy that motor back from you its definitely a collectors item.
My Levo has been so good partner that when time comes i will sent motor for repairing.
I don't see any reason to even look new bike.
Maybe 2024 Levo someday, when we see what Spesh has to offer then.
 

Binhill1

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Mar 7, 2019
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My Levo has been so good partner that when time comes i will sent motor for repairing.
I don't see any reason to even look new bike.
Maybe 2024 Levo someday, when we see what Spesh has to offer then.
Mine as well fantastic bike taken me places I probably wouldn't manage on ordinary bike as im older. 9000 miles in 4 years but had its fair share of troubles my Levo. Enjoy
 

High Rock Ruti

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High Rock Ruti

2020 Pro, 1200 miles 4 motors, current motor is intermittently running on for several seconds, utter shit motors, 11 motors replaced on 3 bike's over 7 years.

Absolutely love the bike and Specialized has been fantatstic on warranty including two full refunds, motors are "utter shit", oh I said that already

Warm Regards Ruti
 

CruJones

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Nov 24, 2021
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High Rock Ruti

2020 Pro, 1200 miles 4 motors, current motor is intermittently running on for several seconds, utter shit motors, 11 motors replaced on 3 bike's over 7 years.

Absolutely love the bike and Specialized has been fantatstic on warranty including two full refunds, motors are "utter shit", oh I said that already

Warm Regards Ruti

That would be enough for me to swear off eBikes altogether.
 

ilostmypassword

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Apr 5, 2022
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New Zealand
High Rock Ruti

2020 Pro, 1200 miles 4 motors, current motor is intermittently running on for several seconds, utter shit motors, 11 motors replaced on 3 bike's over 7 years.

Absolutely love the bike and Specialized has been fantatstic on warranty including two full refunds, motors are "utter shit", oh I said that already

Warm Regards Ruti
You should get a Giant.
 

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