2019 Turbo Levo Owners Thread

[Hannes_3000]

No probs. Running a Maxxis Minion DHF on the rear instead of a DHR (for winter). It’s 29 x 2.5. Got a Maxxis shorty on the front

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Thanks man. Seems to be at least e little bit smaller than the Butcher.. will give it a try...

 

[Harmialized]

Do we know the latest software/firmware numbers for motor and battery please ?? My walk assist is pointless.

If I am correct, my MC is stating on firmware 1a.b
Your retailer can update them through an online portal takes max 5 min I could wait for the update when they did it.

 

[Koro]

Did anyone install the mudguards someone posted before?
Is was a link to bike-components website and the mudguard was called „ mudhugger front fender“. One in short for front and one long for rear wheel.

Thanks.

 

[Hannes_3000]

Did anyone install the mudguards someone posted before?
Is was a link to bike-components website and the mudguard was called „ mudhugger front fender“. One in short for front and one long for rear wheel.

Thanks.

I have installed the short version on the rear wheel. You have to drill some additonal holes, then it fits really well. But as I mentioned above there's not much room left between tyre and fender. Can post a pic on Wednesday if you want (not at home right now).

 

[Koro]

I have installed the short version on the rear wheel. You have to drill some additonal holes, then it fits really well. But as I mentioned above there's not much room left between tyre and fender. Can post a pic on Wednesday if you want (not at home right now).

okay, thanks for info.
yes post some pics please, thanks!
yeah but if the wheel can run smoothly, not much room is fine ?

 

[galaga187]

Thanks, well pleased with it.

The Burgtec finished kit was just fitted by RaceCo and is just extra Burgtec bars, pedals, stem etc. I stuck with the 50mm stem length rather than going shorter.

Yes the bike had an invisiframe kit fitted for protection. Well recommended!

Hope your pleased with yours in Dec!

Cheers Matt - I just found out it's coming this week

 

[galaga187]

That's what I did. I cut up a Mucky Nutz to make a seat tube barrier..

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Can you let me know what mud guard that is please?

 

[All Mountain Coaching]

Flipped it over to insert battery and just thought I'd show you the drainage home. It's almost blocked. 4 rides in.

 

[Kiwi in Wales]

Flipped it over to insert battery and just thought I'd show you the drainage home. It's almost blocked. 4 rides in. View attachment 7267

You really need to take the side covers off and fit the ‘temp foam fix’ dude
I am positive you will find a huge amount of crap underneath those covers now.

 

[Koro]

If someone is receiving a new version with production foam in, please report about dirt getting in the motor case.

 

[Unspecialized]

Flipped it over to insert battery and just thought I'd show you the drainage home. It's almost blocked. 4 rides in. View attachment 7267

I totally wonder that not more people are obset about this hole on the bottom.
It is pretty large, I would say around 1cm in diameter.
How can this be not a design flaw? It seems obvious that dirt and water find gheir way to the motor. Just imagine crossing a small river/creek and the bottom dips into the water. Doesn‘t that harm the motor??

What‘s the purpose of the hole? Maybe let water inside the case running out and/or heat regulation?
I always thougt the motorcase is a waterproof enclosure, at least IP65 rated.

Please somebody may explain, why this is not completely disapointing.

 

[R120]

The hole is a drain hole for water to get out, if it gets in. The thing about the motor cover for the Levo, is its kind of a hybrid bash guard/motor cover. My vitus has a bash guard that pretty tightly integrated to the motor covers, and has a similar hole to allow any water that gets in there to drain out.

 

[All Mountain Coaching]

Flipped it over to insert battery and just thought I'd show you the drainage home. It's almost blocked. 4 rides in. View attachment 7267

You really need to take the side covers off and fit the ‘temp foam fix’ dude
I am positive you will find a huge amount of crap underneath those covers now.

I'm not doing anything dude. If I mess with it they can always say I've created the problem. Spesh have categorically said it's fine, ride it like you've stole it, it's ok. So I'm going by that. There's nothing in the user manual saying you need to clear crap out etc. And whilst it might look bad... I'm sure it'll be ok. Cuz they said so. If it's not, it's not my fault.

 

[R120]

I would still pop the covers to get out whatever in there

 

[Unspecialized]

Covering the hole could maybe cause heat accumulation and/or humiditiy inside the motor case...??

 

[Kiwi in Wales]

I'm not doing anything dude. If I mess with it they can always say I've created the problem. Spesh have categorically said it's fine, ride it like you've stole it, it's ok. So I'm going by that. There's nothing in the user manual saying you need to clear crap out etc. And whilst it might look bad... I'm sure it'll be ok. Cuz they said so. If it's not, it's not my fault.

Up to you dude, All I can advise is if this hole is not plugged... you, me, @Specialized Rider Care and everyone else with a 2019 Levo is in for a very long, painful warranty claim period for Autumn and the up and coming Winter months though to Spring and beyond.

I have personally experienced the water, mud, pine needle ingress issues on my 2017 Levo. It took 3 months of wet weather before the motor died on me due to mud and moisture building up around the motor plug connection and just sitting there for a long period without it being removed as I was unaware it needed to be removed......due to lack of information about the problem. This was with a hole substantially smaller than the huge 'gap' on the 2019. See the first photo below of my 2017. This was caused by a hole that was around 2cm x 1.5cm. The 2019 is much bigger

The hole on the 2019 is not really visible because the swingarm covers it and this is why some people do not think it is a problem. Also the hole is not really exposed until the rear suspension starts 'doing its thing' and moves through its 150mm of travel. As the suspension compresses all the crap pours in through the hole and this is why you see huge bits of debris under the motor covers as the hole is a 'monster' compared to the 2017 or 2018.

To see this 'monster'..... if you turn your bike upside down, remove your rear wheel and let all the air out of your rear shock you will be able to push down on the swing arm chainstays to compress the rear shock until it bottoms out.

When the rear shock bottoms out you will see just how big this 'monster' of a hole is and why I will not be riding my 2019 anywhere until I have plugged it with the @Specialized Rider Care recommended fix as I am not going to go through what I experienced with my 2017 again.

I recommend that the @Specialized Rider Care team should create and publish a maintenance care plan for your 2019 Levo and also previous Levo/Kenevo models so your LBS can inform owners at the point of sale regarding what tasks you, as an owner, need to carry out to keep your bike functioning as it should.

Electrics do not like the damp, its a fact , remember, you cannot stop water ingress on an IP56 rated device, you can only divert around it. In regards to leaves, pine needles and thick mud, the proposed fix should work just fine as it will filter out the 'big bits' and in theory only let filtered albeit a bit murky water though. I carried out a very similar fix on my 2017 in May this year and I can happily confrim it works

 

[Mathias Levo]

Forgive my ignorance as I've not followed the thread from the beginning but could this be avoided/helped by installing the mucky nuts or some other garud as some people have done?

 

[Kiwi in Wales]

Forgive my ignorance as I've not followed the thread from the beginning but could this be avoided/helped by installing the mucky nuts or some other garud as some people have done?

Agreed,
However, the tyre clearance is very tight compared to the 2017/2018 models due to the 2019 using 29er tyres so I am not keen on that option as the terrain where I ride can get a bit gravelly and stones/rocks will get caught between the guard and tyre.

 

[Koro]

I installed a mudhugger front fender sized large along with the foam. The mudhugger needed to be cut as i wasn't aware of the movement in the suspension, this resulted in a 1 1/2 inch gap which was covered with a piece of innertube allowing enough slack for suspension travel. Lol at the fools who watch it happen

could you take some pics please and show us?

 

[galaga187]

Does anywhere in the UK have suitable foam in stock please?

 

[TheLexus]

Does anybody knows if the light output from the brose mag s is the same as previouse brose (6v, enabled by spec)?

 

[Maastricht]

Does anybody knows if the light output from the brose mag s is the same as previouse brose (6v, enabled by spec)?

In German you are able to find the information here:

Turbo Levo – Help Center Specialized Germany GmbH

Turbo Levo 2.1 Motor

Lichtmontage

• 2 Lichtports
• Output: 12V/24W, 2A max.
• Verkabelung bei Carbon und Aluminium Rahmen unterschiedlich. Die Öffnung im Oberrohr beim Aluminiumrahmen muss modifiziert werden, im Carbon Rahmen ist genug Patz
• Kabelverlegung durch Oberrohr und Sidearm
• Rücklicht nicht empfohlen da kein richtiger Ausgang für das Kabel vorgesehen ist

 

[Kiwi in Wales]

Does anywhere in the UK have suitable foam in stock please?

I believe this should work. I havent tried it yet as I am away at the moment. Will let you know how I get on.

50x50cm Biochemical Filter Foam Pond Filtration Fish Tank Aquarium Sponge Pad | eBay

 

[robikinkela]

Update on the electrical problem for which my Levo was dead: it seems that there was the power cord that goes from the battery to the engine too bent and for this the current was interrupted. I hope everything goes back to work. We'll see.

 

[Speci-Rider]

Here is my first Ebike. Motor is very quiet, but I lost an uphill race with my wife, who rides a 2 year old SCOTT E-Genius with Bosch CX.
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But I’m really happy so far!

 

[Hoppy]

Here is my first Ebike. Motor is very quiet, but I lost an uphill race with my wife, who rides a 2 year old SCOTT E-Genius with Bosch CX.
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But I’m really happy so far!

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What brand are those fenders??

 

[Speci-Rider]

What brand are those fenders??

Mudhuggers front long, both, I added two holes for the back. Good stuff!

 

[Harmialized]

Does anywhere in the UK have suitable foam in stock please?

https://www.24mx.nl/mud-foam-blackbird#?p

 

[Levo Lution]

Has anybody tried levo 2019 with 27,5+ wheels on? Does it even make sense to change the wheels to 27,5+ as all previous levos had?

 

[Thomas]

Update on this one: I checked with our product team and the factory sponge is just as easy to retrofit. Sorry for adding confusion, I've edited my original post above. The sponge we use in the factory has a small hole through the middle to keep it in place between the motor inserts during the assembly process. Once the bike is fully assembled there is negligible difference to using the cut-out vs factory part.

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This will do the job, PPI looks simular 15-20?