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Out of interest, does the place of manufacturer make a difference?? I have 2 8010's one on mine at 86% 66 cycles made in Japan and packaged in China and the Mrs is a new bike so only 3 cycles 100% made in Singapore and packaged in China.

hasn't the 8016 just got fatter??? Thought the length was pretty much the same.

Isn't Tredz owned by Halfords??? So may still be valid there??

How do you do that??

Just download the firmware you want and rename to the latest, e tube will install thinking it's the latest version.

Hmmm that could work, and obviously does, thanks. Are the bikes stable enough with just the forks bolted?? Didn't know if I needed Velcro or something for the back wheel??

Anyone know where I can get one, most are out of stock or need adapters, looking for 15 x 110

That's good info thanks and kinda backing up what I'm thinking. I'd love a really light bike, well sub 19kg with a full fat motor not that I'd use full power all the time but it's nice to have it and to put a grin on your face when its steep and techy. The sub 19kg can no doubt be achieved but I...

Thanks for the info, most appreciated. I'm still very torn in my choice at the moment, the SL really does appeal to me for it's weight and for being nimble, also there is stock!!!! I can get to try a medium which is a 5 hour drive there and back which is fine but there is nothing to else compare...

May I ask what your inseam is and your arm length(armpit to wrist will do) i can't get to try any within 50 miles of me only ones in stock are online so the more info I can gather the better. How is the climbing in turbo is it comparable to any mode on a full fat bike?? Thanks

2100km total 56 cycles 88% life Not sure on charger model, takes approx 4 hrs.

Isn't seat height measured from centre of pedals in lowest position inline with seat tube to top of saddle???? Just that on the canyon site on the diagram it looks like it's from centre of crank to top of saddle.

So judging by the examples here the sizes are coming up big would you say??

It's de-restricted, better for those shorter blasts at speed!

Wind is a battery killer for me and if my ride is about range I try not to go over the 15mph restriction although there is no restriction!!

Just measured her and she is 164/76 and it's coming up as XS that's a shame as I just had seen a good deal in the outlet and bought the small and its possibly to big :(

How is canyons recommend sizing???? My mrs is 164cm, would she be ok with a size small Nueron:on?

After years being on a SDG bel air I've now switched to a Fabric scoop radius, love it and I find it very comfy for long rides.

No mate, no stand out cause found. Been fine since new cassette and chain, just made sure the new one was nice and tight.

Agreed, mine currently sits at 21.6kg with summer lightish tyres and 20kg is not worth the outlay. The SL on the other hand can be easily 4kg lighter than mine with not much effort. The spec is indeed underwhelming, for me it's all about The frame package as it can be built up as funds allow. I...