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We have similar tastes it seems Gary ?✌?

haha! It was well trick on paper that bike. Mine was also too big hence the rebuild. I always perved over the M800 due to the sloping top tube. Would still love one. My old Kona Chute (2001) will do. I still own all of these btw. I even have a Torker 280x stored. I never sell anything.

I’m personally only able to ride emtb these days for health reasons. It’s a god send, it really is. I’ve been riding bikes since 1973 btw my first mtb was an 89 Raleigh Appalachian (like this, 1989 Raleigh Appalachian | Retrobike , quickly rebuilt into a Saracen Traverse Frame) that I bought...

Aldi £20 for me. The stand looks the same as the halford one. The key problem, for holding my Surge, is that it doesn’t quite hold at an angle as it’s not strong enough. I’m going to stick with it for the moment though.

Spotted: New Fox 36 (38?) - EWS Zermatt 2019 - Pinkbike

Speculating about future technology certainly doesn’t come from a place of fear for me. I like to consider the possibilities the tech might open up. I love my e-MTB, for my own personal situation it’s great. When I’m working on my fitness and technique I’m not worrying about the next bike!

I took those claims with a pinch of salt at the time but if deliverable then clearly in 5 years we’ll be much better off as that’s a couple of kilos off the weight.

I think we’re a couple of years off from that leap forward that we all want. I think the best we can hope for is greater efficiency of the motor/drivetrain until then.

Yeah, I get a hunch that maybe they couldn’t engineer it down to a marketable weight. And in my calculation that’s half what they got it to in production at least.

I mentioned it. Made by Mahle.

Continental smoothly overpowers with first CVT 48V e-Bike drivetrain systems - e-Bikerumor The challenge is to get that weight overhead down from 2.5kg to closer to 1kg. The whole package needs to come in under 3-3.5kg in my mind.

You’re right, there are a great many potential options coming. I’d just limited to Specialized but I’m probably most excited about a combined motor/CVT gearbox set up. I give it 4-5 years but it could remove a lot of pain points for e-MTBs (wear and tear, opportunity to optimise into torque...

In many ways we don’t even know if Specialized will go with another Brose motor. Or if they do it goes in the next Kenevo (2023). I’m wondering if they will go with another Mahle sourced motor like the Creo as that would open up possibilities for lighter weight or be more compact so other...

I’d accept the Gigafactories and charging network are a success. We could go on forever like this though and whilst it’s nice shooting the breeze on this let’s revisit, assuming we’re both around, when something is released? I think we can maybe all agree it will stand up to space debris better...

Join the club ?. I just wanted folk to see it from a different perspective that’s all. I don’t think I’ve been successful at that.

Being part of the hype machine that enables over valuation of Tesla stock. Are they a success yet? By what measure? Stock price alone?

Try getting a return from your Tesla shares that isn’t about selling them on (ie. a dividend). Misrepresenting orders is something regulators watch carefully. That, and how he uses hype, is all that I’m pointing out. I’m surprised about how passionate you both are getting about this he’s not...

Not really, though I do think this particular model deserves all the ridicule it’s ‘emperor’s new clothes’ approach is getting. Whether one likes Tesla or not one can’t deny they’ve pushed the industry forward so far (particularly for their Gigafactories). The trouble I’m pointing out is that...

The customer is not necessarily the person being duped here. I’m not sure how many times I need to say this.

We can leave it there as you’re not getting my point about how serious hype bubbles can become for the company itself, potential investors and economies as a whole. What you post completely underlines my point.