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Hello from rainy Surrey. Might get a better response to your question if you put a separate post in the Spesh section.

Riding from home, Surrey Hills, I have a small bum bag. If it doesn't fit I don't take it, so it' pretty much pump and a multi-tool. Would use a rucksack if I was going somewhere remote where the consequences of a breakdown would be more severe.

good video Rob, especially the ending assessment. I read somewhere: SL: think of it as a trail bike with assistance. Levo: think of it as a full gas e-bike. I would think anyone not a regular rider, larger (heavier) people, anyone whose idea of a good ride is a long day out covering...

Certainly it would be nice to have the option - would help me justify an SL if I could use the parts from my Levo.

flats totally. ;-)

All Spesh supply chains and processes are set up to sell full builds. I don't see they have a great incentive to sell frame kits. Plus likely they and dealers don't wan the warranty complications of serving self-builders. Put yourself in their shoes - where's the upside? I don't expect to see...

I'm same dimensions as you Tom. We're dob on mediums.

172 cm (5-8) my M Levo is the best fitting bike I ever had and the geometry is spot on for the trails I ride. I could only improve it by making it lighter and shortening the chainstays.. Oh.

yup - the maximum frequency for buying new motors is 2 years. and extended warranty options would encourage me to purchase.

it's not a hijack, most of us love the idea of the bike. it's OK to talk about why we may not buy one. might help someone eh?

that's quite a weight saving.

yeah, scary thought isn't it.

yup. a longer warranty would really help me move on from my reluctance to drop big bucks on an SL Expert. 2 years (which is 2 summers) goes very fast.

@Spesh - if you're reading: I'm a trail rider and I've a 6 month old Levo. It's great fun to ride, my only criticism is it's a bit of a tank. I reckon an SL would be right up my street. I could roll my Levo and my bio trail bike into one. I don't need a winch, am happy to pedal. And I almost...

relative complexity and longevity of the product I'd say. doesn't bother me though. markets are markets, producer sets a price, consumers choose to buy or not. we've no entitlement to electric mountain bikes at the price we feel 'fair'. these are just **rich peoples' toys, no one is being...

The way to deal with things you think are bad value for money is to not buy them. Works every time.

@escrs was it yourself I had a good chat with on Saturday, from Tunbridge Wells? I'm the guy from Dorking.

do dealers bill Spesh back for warranty work? (I'm assuming they do).

We're quits.

good work. I doubt Spesh "designed" the motor, perhaps they specced it.