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Wikipedia says Mahle have revenue of EUR12.5 billion and 75,000 staff. Spesh is a minnow in comparison. This project is barely on their radar I bet. That's actually quite reassuring!

yup, money talks.

me too. tried flats on my Levo - because I didn't need that x% extra performance with a motor. much prefer it, now have flats on all my bikes including singlespeed. I think the x% performance gain is negligible or non-existent. And I like being able to centre my feet on the pedals for DH.

yay got dislikes!

wowser.

anyone know the headline replacement cost of the Brose motor?

look quite forky to me.

gotta be. normal forks on the front.

yeah we have to remind ourselves we are talking huge amounts of money here, for a toy.

bit of feedback for Spesh: Very tempted by an SL Expert. But 2 years warranty is not much on a seven and a half grand bike that I'll likely not ride in the worst weather. It'll fly by. When you buy a product from Apple you can by AppleCare which extends the warranty to 5 years. Some longer...

bit of a hike over to Surrey Hills proper from Leatherhead.

Yeah but that’s a day round trip. 2 if you have to drop off then go back to collect.

oops back to front, small cog is lower gearing not higher. doh.

20mm is a big win. 30T isn't. maybe explains why they have dinner plate rear cassette.

Looked to my (by eye) the SL has a little more BB clearance than the Levo. Relevant to me as I bash my Levo BB area a lot. Can anyone confirm? (@Rob Hancill)? Thx. (note to self - learn to jump not roll!).

there's no club to my knowledge. make a Fb group and get going? Nirvana Cycles at Westcott do emtb only rides 10AM Wednesdays. I ride my Levo on our group bio rides. I just turn it low/off.

AFAIK 30 day any reason returns are standard Trek policy. Bontrager too. The LBS in my town does it on their Trek stuff. %ges - batteries have different capacities so expressing comparative %ges doesn't say a great deal. my Levo has a 500wH battery so may be a different percentage used.

gotta love that Trek 30 day no quibble satisfaction guarantee.

The Whyte? Or whichever has a nearby reliable dealer?

yeah me too. my Levo is 21.7kg - I'd look for that 4kg saving on the basis of rarely using the extender.