Sean1.0
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Was patiently waiting for EP8 bikes but I think that coasting clatter is a dealbreaker for me if its a feature of the motor.
Thx for the reviews
Thx for the reviews
Yeah, this is interesting, and it could be possible. There are two new displays for the EP8, the SC-EM800 and the Bosch Purion-style SC-E5003. These will connect to prevoius motors (E8000, 7000, 6100, 5000) using some sort of conversion adapter. I haven't found this adapter on the Shimano website yet. It would be really cool if this allowed us to use the new E-Tube app with extra tweaking options and two user profiles. I will be looking into this.Everyone asking if they can upgrade their E8000 to the new EP8...
...what I'm more interested in is if the new SC-EM800 display is backward-compatible with E8000, and if there's any new trickle-down features in the E-Tube app.
@Rob Rides EMTB Do you have any info on some sub £5k bikes with the new motor?
In the EU manufacturers are expected to add anti tamper functionality now, every new motor released will have it in Europe at least.So if this new motor has built in detection,that may kill sales as lots love to fiddle with the speed limit.
Just trying a planet3 type Gizmo will invalidate warranty.
I know, we need to get @Gary on an EP8 equipped bike asap and see how quickly he can break the new bearings...I love how they say the bearings aren’t serviceable. You don’t have to search hard to find people with play in the cranks on the old motor after relatively little time. I guess you just throw these motors away like you throw a LED bulb away that also claims to last forever.
I don't know of any current main manufacturer motors that don't aggressively seek out tampering and punish the rider for it.In the EU manufacturers are expected to add anti tamper functionality now, every new motor released will have it in Europe at least.
#GoFundGaryI know, we need to get @Gary on an EP8 equipped bike asap and see how quickly he can break the new bearings...
is it actually a rattle or just the same engagement/disengagement knock the E8000 has when the chainring goes from rotating to under power to freewheeling and vice versa? this happens a lot over rough ground partly because of suspension induced chaingrowth and partly because of less than free freehub mechanisms - if you video'd an E8000 crank freewheeling from the driveside you'd see the chainring actually rotate forwards a few teeth at a time. it even does it on smooth surfaces at high speedjust the rattling is quite annoying as it seems worse on flat bumpy fire roads and roots.
#GoFundGary
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is it actually a rattle or just the same engagement/disengagement knock the E8000 has when the chainring goes from rotating to under power to freewheeling and vice versa? this happens a lot over rough ground partly because of suspension induced chaingrowth and partly because of less than free freehub mechanisms - if you video'd an E8000 crank freewheeling from the driveside you'd see the chainring actually rotate forwards a few teeth at a time. it even does it on smooth surfaces at high speed
I guess if Shimano have reduced the EP8s drag even more than almost non existant drag of the E8000 this could be contributing to this happening even more.
I don't know of any current main manufacturer motors that don't aggressively seek out tampering and punish the rider for it.
Yeah, I know. I've been spending a fair bit of time lately looking for loopholes - I'm still not 100% convinced that motor manufacturers are as vulnerable to accusations of complicity, given that it's so easy to get beyond the restriction speed just by pedalling - but I'm not as committed to the venture as I might have been when I was still earning a living as a legal professional; and because I don't even notice when I'm beyond the support limit on my Levo SL, I'm just less vested personally these days.Sadly they are following EU law. They don't want to do it any more than you want it, believe me!
Speaking to a couple of the manufacturer's someone has to sign off the bike as a design lead, and if it's deemed they didn't do everything they could to stop it being de-restricted and someone, god forbid, kills someone etc they personally end up liable. Sucks.
"Shimano is aware of this rattling noise; they're basically saying this is a compromise they have to accept in order to make the motor good in other areas"
Interesting - I presume this means some other motors in the works? Or are they just going with the single motor across all applications nowShimano told me the E8000 was being discontinued. They’ll keep some for warranty but won’t continue producing them.
They are keeping the E7000 ?Interesting - I presume this means some other motors in the works? Or are they just going with the single motor across all applications now
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