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STUnlocker (ex Shimano STEPS Unlocker) Android & Windows App for derestriction/market change and etc

alexb8cr

New Member
Apr 27, 2024
3
0
Europe
Can this tool raise the power (nm) of a shimano motor over it’s default power . Like e6100 ha 60 nm and set it to go at 80?
 

Risilla

New Member
May 19, 2024
2
1
USA
Hi all, long time 2021 Orbea Rise H15 owner but just increased torque on my Rise since there's a new trail that would benefit from increasing torque.

Question, is there a consensus on the optimal wattage setting? I did some search on the EP8 RS motor and sounds like there's vibration when wattage is set >450W and battery is <30%

Also is there any different in optimal setting between the M and H models because of battery size?

Thank you all in advance.
 

alexb8cr

New Member
Apr 27, 2024
3
0
Europe
Hello, if i buy the license and change the destination market to US (shimano e5000) through a pce02 interface, does the changes resete everytime i take off the battery? I saw that that happens on the mobile app.
Thanks(i have the latest version of firmware 4.5.0 i think
 

CTRL+ALT+DEL

New Member
May 30, 2024
2
0
France
Max assist is FW depended. On E8000 with 4.6.1 you can set up to 400% and 600W
On E7000 with 4.3.1 it is possible to set 300%+ of assist
Hi Vadll,
I purchased some weeks ago STUnlocker license and everything running well. Unfortunately I have a problem pushing Boost mode assistance from 250% to 300%. As you said a long time ago, It's should be possible with firmware 4.3.1. It's really like? Mine doesn't accept value higher than 250%.
Any suggestion? Thanks
 

webman

Member
Apr 13, 2022
62
34
Sydney
Does anyone know what’s contained in the regulation log for a EP801? I know EP800 had destination (region) and circumference. The EP801 apparently does no longer support region changes so does that log contain the region/destination?
 

Backflip

Member
Nov 6, 2023
70
59
Austria
Does anyone know what’s contained in the regulation log for a EP801? I know EP800 had destination (region) and circumference. The EP801 apparently does no longer support region changes so does that log contain the region/destination?
EP801 regulation log still contains destination and circumference even if you cannot change region anymore once it was programmed by Shimano on their production facility.
 

Blokie

Member
May 30, 2019
74
44
Derbyshire, UK
I've just purchased the premium version of the app and successfully downgraded my EP8 firmware from 4.2.0 to 4.0.2 and changed the region from EU to US.

I was also going to change the wheel circumference from the default of 2190mm (27.5in) to a lower value such as, say, 1600 to give even more top speed, but the correction only allows for upto 5%, so there would be no way to get an accurate speed displayed/recorded. If I stick within 5% that would mean going to just 2080, which would barely be worth bothering (by the way, if I'm "fooling" the motor into thinking I have smaller wheel than I have, and I correcting as a positive or negative value??)

Is there a way to change to a value greater than 5% and also get an accurate speed display/recording?
 

webman

Member
Apr 13, 2022
62
34
Sydney
I've just purchased the premium version of the app and successfully downgraded my EP8 firmware from 4.2.0 to 4.0.2 and changed the region from EU to US.

I was also going to change the wheel circumference from the default of 2190mm (27.5in) to a lower value such as, say, 1600 to give even more top speed, but the correction only allows for upto 5%, so there would be no way to get an accurate speed displayed/recorded. If I stick within 5% that would mean going to just 2080, which would barely be worth bothering (by the way, if I'm "fooling" the motor into thinking I have smaller wheel than I have, and I correcting as a positive or negative value??)

Is there a way to change to a value greater than 5% and also get an accurate speed display/recording?
There is no way to go faster AND have the correct speed displayed. Some guys set the circumference to 2190mm / 1.6 and change the display to show Mph. That way the displayed speed is correct but the unit is not
 

petroz

New Member
Jun 18, 2024
1
0
Uk
Does anybody know if the latest firmware for the e8000 (4.10.00) can still be rolled back to 4.8 using the android shimano app in flight mode method?
 

Blokie

Member
May 30, 2019
74
44
Derbyshire, UK
There is no way to go faster AND have the correct speed displayed. Some guys set the circumference to 2190mm / 1.6 and change the display to show Mph. That way the displayed speed is correct but the unit is not
Sorry - I don't quite understand - I already have my display in MPH (as I'm UK based) ?
 

webman

Member
Apr 13, 2022
62
34
Sydney
Sorry - I don't quite understand - I already have my display in MPH (as I'm UK based) ?
Sorry, I explained that pretty badly and not quitre right: If your actual circumference is 2200 and you set it to 1375 (2200 / 1.6) then you’ll get support up to 25Mph (40km/h real speed) but the motor will think you’re doing 25km/h (40km/h / 1.6). If you set your display to km/h the it will show 25. You just have to ignore the km/h and read it as Mph and the actual figure is right, just the unit is off. Of course, bike computers etc will also be off but for that you could use a separate speed sensor if needed.
 

Blokie

Member
May 30, 2019
74
44
Derbyshire, UK
Sorry, I explained that pretty badly and not quitre right: If your actual circumference is 2200 and you set it to 1375 (2200 / 1.6) then you’ll get support up to 25Mph (40km/h real speed) but the motor will think you’re doing 25km/h (40km/h / 1.6). If you set your display to km/h the it will show 25. You just have to ignore the km/h and read it as Mph and the actual figure is right, just the unit is off. Of course, bike computers etc will also be off but for that you could use a separate speed sensor if needed.
Thanks - that all makes sense!

I tend to use my Garmin 1040 to record all of my rides (plus my watch as a backup), so that will be accurate as it will just use it's GPS and nothing speed wise from the bike itself (just the battery %).
 

Borbea

Member
Nov 13, 2022
46
28
Sweden
yes, as the normal EP8. For Bluetooth you need downgrade to 4.0.2 for the speed derestriction and then update to the actual firmware. With PCE interface the downgrade is not required.
Hi,

changed region from EU to US over a year ago. Need to go back to dealer due to frame issues And try to downgrade with android mobile and E-tube 5.0.2 app, but was not able to connect to bike. The app connected to bike but when reading through parameters in beginning i get message that cannot connect and need to disconnect bike.

To me it seems latest EP800 fw (4.2.0) can’t connect to E-tube 5.0.2 hence can not downgrade fw anymore.

So is the only way to use windows and PCE2 cable?
 

vadII

E*POWAH Master
Feb 19, 2019
800
576
Earth
To me it seems latest EP800 fw (4.2.0) can’t connect to E-tube 5.0.2 hence can not downgrade fw anymore.
Yes. The instructions has info about this case. You have to use patched ETube Apk (link in the instructions) for the downgrading.
 

IntenseScotia

New Member
Feb 6, 2024
15
11
Scotland
I just want to change my region to US to gain a little bit more top speed, Not interested in changing wheel size etc


As far as I know I have the latest firmware on everything, is it possible to change this via the mobile app, had a look through the thread and instructions but there's so much to take on I'm now sure what's what.
 

vadII

E*POWAH Master
Feb 19, 2019
800
576
Earth
I just want to change my region to US to gain a little bit more top speed, Not interested in changing wheel size etc


As far as I know I have the latest firmware on everything, is it possible to change this via the mobile app, had a look through the thread and instructions but there's so much to take on I'm now sure what's what.
Yes, it's possible. Email me for the instruction
 

kyzmic

New Member
Jul 31, 2024
5
1
cz
Hello. Today I went down with the program. Version 4.0.2. on the ep8 engine. Set to 40 km/h. Will I have a problem if I don't update to the latest version after editing? thx
 

vadII

E*POWAH Master
Feb 19, 2019
800
576
Earth
Hello. Today I went down with the program. Version 4.0.2. on the ep8 engine. Set to 40 km/h. Will I have a problem if I don't update to the latest version after editing? thx
No. You have to update from 4.0.2 to any 4.1.x, 4.2.x firmware
 

kyzmic

New Member
Jul 31, 2024
5
1
cz
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