Rise Up - What are your upgrades?

[balticmoe]

Hey @Erjabato,

That is exactly the disadvantage of the Shigura: Shimano brake lever and Magura brake line (but it's worth it, long-term test is still running). For me, this led to the experience of removing the motor, because unfortunately the line connector tore out when I tried to pull it through. Just in case @Rod B. has a great guide here that helped me.

As a tip, I can directly recommend that you check the banjo on the Magura brake caliper for leaks yourself. The small rubber seal didn't seal and required a set of pads as an sacrifice to the trail gods. I therefore used a Jagwire line on the front wheel, but there were no problems on the rear with the original Magura brake hose.

Apart from that I can't complain, I last had an XT and I liked it too, the Shigura is a bit easier to modulate in my opinion and I'm now trying out different pads.

Cheers

 

[Erjabato]

Thanks a lot Balticmoe!

I have ordered one Shimano MT520 caliper for the rear since I am afraid of removing the motor in the new bike, but I don't discard the Shigura in the front to make the test and expand later... even if it means a pads sacrifice to the trail gods .

Thanks!

 

[balticmoe]

Hey @Erjabato

That sounds like a good plan. At the time, I was put off by the availability and prices, and it's fun to try something new.

Good luck with the conversion and have fun testing it.

 

[DanMcDan]

Finally got the H30 (still have the wife’s m20 which is down at 17kgs) and I’ve made my H30 into a bit of an enduro beast, the Zebs are a good fit on the hydro and I’m playing between the db inline coil and a dhx Rc4 (216x63 with two x 2mm off set bushes) the brakes are Code ultimates with 200mm front and rear rotors and Hunt enduro wheels.

 

[DanMcDan]

Ps, for anyone wanting to switch the rear brake, I cut both hoses and joined using a wood screw cut in half, then just pulled the new hose through from the bottom to the top. I didn’t drop the motor.

 

[kiwidoc]

Rise H30 XL

Dissector our back, Assegai 2.5 up front.
Cushcore XC
1up carbon bar abbe grips
XT 4 pot brakes.
XT shifter and dropper trigger. Both ipec.
205 rotor up front.
XT pedals.
DVO onyx 160 fork
DVO topaz shock
Ride Wrap

 

[Cell4soul]

M10. Only a couple of mods so far, as follows:

- SRAM XO1 AXS derailleur/shifter (I am still using the Shimano cassette and chain)
- SRAM AXS dropper
- Deity Bladerunner pedals
- Deity stem
- Deity grips
- E Thirteen 160mm aluminum cranks
- MAXXIS Minion DHR II/DHF (both are dual casing)
- 203mm Galfer rotor up front
- range extender (not really a mod)

 

[BrookeBikes]

Re. your fork - unfortunately, you'll never get a Fox to feel like a DVO. DVO's have an adjustable mechanical negative spring, meaning, you can adjust how the fork feels "off the top" and over small bumps without changing or effecting your psi and mid/bottom out support. Get one! Service it often and you will not regret!

 

[BrookeBikes]

Rise H30 XL

Dissector our back, Assegai 2.5 up front.
Cushcore XC
1up carbon bar abbe grips
XT 4 pot brakes.
XT shifter and dropper trigger. Both ipec.
205 rotor up front.
XT pedals.
DVO onyx 160 fork
DVO topaz shock
Ride Wrap

What size Topaz did you go with? Are you running 29" front and rear still?

Ronnie at DVO is working on my new suspension set right now: Oynx 160mm with a 8.5 x 2.5 Topaz and I'm preparing the necessary modifications on my end (27.5 wheel and offset bushing).

 

[Le Haut-Vosgien]

M10. Only a couple of mods so far, as follows:

- SRAM XO1 AXS derailleur/shifter (I am still using the Shimano cassette and chain)
- SRAM AXS dropper
- Deity Bladerunner pedals
- Deity stem
- Deity grips
- E Thirteen 160mm aluminum cranks
- MAXXIS Minion DHR II/DHF (both are dual casing)
- 203mm Galpin rotor up front
- range extender (not really a mod)


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Salut,
Quel est la marque/modèle et la taille de ta sacoche de cadre ?
Merci de prendre le temps de me répondre, car je n’arrive pas à trouver une sacoche comme la tienne. Orbea aurait pu en commercialiser une.

 

[Le Haut-Vosgien]

Salut,
Quel est la marque/modèle et la taille de ta sacoche de cadre ?
Merci de prendre le temps de me répondre, car je n'arrive pas à trouver une sacoche comme la tienne. Orbea aurait pu en commercialiser une.
[/DEVIS]
Personne ne sait ????

 

[Le Haut-Vosgien]

[/DEVIS]
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[Le Haut-Vosgien]

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[Tonybro]

@Cell4soul can you answer Haut's question?

Hi,
What is the make / model and size of your frame bag ?
Thank you for taking the time to answer me, because I can't find a satchel like yours. Orbea could have marketed one.

 

[Cell4soul]

@Cell4soul can you answer Haut's question?

Hi,
What is the make / model and size of your frame bag ?
Thank you for taking the time to answer me, because I can't find a satchel like yours. Orbea could have marketed one.

sorry for the delayed response. The frame bag is the Blackburn Outpost Corner Bag. Here is a link:

Outpost Corner Bag

Shop Blackburn's Outpost Corner Bike Bag with angled shape to keep your items secure so you can enjoy the ride. Check out key bike accessories online today.

www.blackburndesign.com

 

[Cell4soul]

Salut,
Quel est la marque/modèle et la taille de ta sacoche de cadre ?
Merci de prendre le temps de me répondre, car je n’arrive pas à trouver une sacoche comme la tienne. Orbea aurait pu en commercialiser une.

Outpost Corner Bag

Shop Blackburn's Outpost Corner Bike Bag with angled shape to keep your items secure so you can enjoy the ride. Check out key bike accessories online today.

www.blackburndesign.com

 

[Le Haut-Vosgien]

Désolé pour la réponse tardive. Le sac de cadre est le Blackburn Outpost Corner Bag. Voici un lien :

Outpost Corner Bag

Shop Blackburn's Outpost Corner Bike Bag with angled shape to keep your items secure so you can enjoy the ride. Check out key bike accessories online today.

www.blackburndesign.com

[/DEVIS]
Merci beaucoup.

 

[Gismo6303]

Hi, it doesn't fit on a m10 size M

 

[JDA]

Here is a summary of all the upgrades I've done on the bike since picking it up back in February. It was pretty good out of the box but some things had to change.

• Cranks - The standard E13 Cranks that come on the Rise have a habit of coming loose and then falling off mid ride. E13 tried to remedy this by changing the design of the preload bolts to add more threads. I didn't see this as a proper solution and once your crank comes loose you are going to do permanent damage to the spline on the main axle which is on an ebike is the motor not a bottom bracket. I actually swapped the XT Cranks onto the bike in the first week of ownership. While I was there I went from a 32T chainring up to a 34T. I actually think it needs a 36T but 34T is the largest size that Orbea recommend.
• Seat - The seat it came with was just so uncomfortable. I tried to get on with it but any ride longer than an hour left me in pain. I did the whole measure your sit bones thing with cardboard and chose the appropriate SQLab saddle to suit me. I won't say its perfect but its a huge improvement.
• Riser Bar - There was nothing wrong with the RaceFace carbon bar that came on the bike, this was more of a geometry fix for me. This bike is my first 29er and also my first bike with "modern" geometry. I find the cockpit reasonably short and maybe even spot on for my size but had a bit of trouble lifting the front wheel off the ground. I'm not sure if this is due to the larger back wheel, longer chainstay than I'm used to and/or possibly just the weight of the battery in the downtube. The 40mm riser bar was certainly the right move, it just gives me the ability to get my body weight a little further back over the rear wheel and lift the front with ease when I need to.
• Mud Guards - Well it never bloody stops raining, this bike has seen nothing but mud since I got it and the mud guards do keep some of the linkages clean, front fork stanchions and my back side.
• Headset - I noticed my headset had become loose recently, after tightening it a little I noticed it was notchy. After removing the fork I found the bottom bearing completely rusted out. I was just going to buy a new lower bearing but could only find the low end models in stock so I just ended up going with a Chris King, bloody expensive but in my experience they are worth it.

 

[Swissrider]

I wanted an H15 but only H30s available until next year so went with H15 with upgrades to deal with obvious weaknesses in discussion with LBS.
Tyres - rear changed for a Dissector, so same front and bac. Will go for minion DHF & DHR combo when need replacing, which is what I’m used to and works well for my riding.
Brakes - upgraded to 4 pot SLX and 203mm rotor. Seem to work really well, better than SRAM on my other bike which has 220mm rotor. Only issue is that LBS has a lot of problems with the conversion and had to take an adaptor off another bike. Checking the pads, they have a ridge of unworn material so the calliper is too far out from the rotor. They used those cone and cup washers between the adaptor and the caliper which I guess are too thick. It’s too much of a schlep to go to the shop so I’ll fiddle about with washers to get the correct distance. The adaptor they put on is a 40mm one, which I guess is the correct one. Despite not using all of the pad material, the brakes work well!
Saddle - I couldn’t get on with the standard one. When the world has moved on to making saddles with a cut out to avoid the dreaded numbness, I wonder why manufacturers still put old fashioned saddles on as OEM. I bought an Ergon ebike saddle which I’m happy with.
Mudguards - mash guard on front and decathlon front short mudguard mounted on chainstays on rear. These weight almost nothing and do a good job of keeping mud out of my eyes and ass.
Range extender - was a lot of money but had just come into the shop the day I picked up the bike and they had been on order for months. TBH, only used once so far as range on standard battery better than expected, but hopefully worth it as was one of the reasons to get another bike as range on my old one was becoming limited compared to my mates.
Grips - will change for Ergon ones with the little wrist platform. I have these on my other bike and find they help wrists and hands on long bumpy descents,
Handlebar mount for Garmin edge - just the “free” one which is fixed to handlebars with rubber bands.
Decathlon phone mount. Solidly made, metal not plastic. I find it much easier to follow a route using phone than Garmin as screen is large with proper topo map.
Forks - I was going to upgrade these but have been pleasantly surprised by the Marzocchi bombers (as have every review I’ve read of them). I was bottoming out with an alarming clunk on bigger jumps so have added a token (not supplied by Orbea for some reason).

In my view, these upgrades, most of which were relatively inexpensive have given me a highly capable bike, not too heavy with an enormous range. I still love my old 2019 Kenevo for bike parks and really technical descents but I’ve been pleasantly surprised how capable the Rise is downhill and although I I have to work harder (which is probably a good thing) uphill, I can get anywhere I need to, just a tad slower.

 

[thewrx]

H30 black/grey metallic L

• Renthal cockpit, carbon 40m rise, 50m headset, super stick renthal grips
• Schwalbe magic mary and eddy current (tubeless)
• Stamp7 danny mcaskill
• Magura mt7 (yellow), 200m magura storm 1-piece (stupid centerlock) rotors
• Ergon sme saddle
• Lupine headlight and taillight, wired to main battery
• Specialized toolkit waterbottle holder
• Invisiframe gloss
• E7000 display, and cable cleanup
• And For Sale…

 

[tidoberman]

What I plan to do:

• Specialized Roval Control SL wheels (-315g)

hey,
how is your wheelser going? Strong enough to handle the weight of the Rise?
you use your bike as an enduro bike or you hit only trails?

thanks

 

[Bigtuna00]

hey,
how is your wheelser going? Strong enough to handle the weight of the Rise?
you use your bike as an enduro bike or you hit only trails?

thanks

Hi there!

I only had the Rise for a few rides and then sold it, but I kept the wheels. I put them on a Specialized Epic Evo for a while, now they're on my wife's Rise H30. I've had no issues with them, but I'm not hard on wheels either in general. I run a 1500g wheelset on my 46lb Mondraker Crafty without issues as well. I have a friend who is about the same weight as me, rides slower, and breaks spokes and rims all the time I am fast and aggressive downhill, but I have been told over the years that I ride pretty smooth. The only thing I have a history of breaking is seats...

 

[Richridesmtb]

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Hi there!

I only had the Rise for a few rides and then sold it, but I kept the wheels. I put them on a Specialized Epic Evo for a while, now they're on my wife's Rise H30. I've had no issues with them, but I'm not hard on wheels either in general. I run a 1500g wheelset on my 46lb Mondraker Crafty without issues as well. I have a friend who is about the same weight as me, rides slower, and breaks spokes and rims all the time I am fast and aggressive downhill, but I have been told over the years that I ride pretty smooth. The only thing I have a history of breaking is seats...

What made you move it on BigTuna?

 

[Bigtuna00]

What made you move it on BigTuna?

Not enough power. There are a few places that I ride with really steep climbs. I was red-lining too much for my liking with the Rise. If I had nothing to compare it to I probably would have kept it but I was on a Levo before and grew addicted to the power

I also didn't care for the geometry, the steep seat angle is hard on my knees and back. Unfortunately it's pretty much impossible to get away from that anymore

 

[cookie70]

I actually swapped the XT Cranks onto the bike in the first week of ownership. While I was there I went from a 32T chainring up to a 34T.

what size cranks? I'm thinking of 160mm XT for my rise. I don't get tons of crankstrikes but think it would help being shorter.

I've considered 34 but riding without the guide is a big no for me. I took the guide off and where I ride I had the chain come off a few times which is not nice.

I'm looking for another saddle for this bike. I swapped to my goto chromag seat but have issues on this bike, I guess its an ebike thing, more on the saddle peddaling up, not sure. You seem on the fence about the sqlab?

 

[JDA]

what size cranks? I'm thinking of 160mm XT for my rise. I don't get tons of crankstrikes but think it would help being shorter.

I've considered 34 but riding without the guide is a big no for me. I took the guide off and where I ride I had the chain come off a few times which is not nice.

I'm looking for another saddle for this bike. I swapped to my goto chromag seat but have issues on this bike, I guess its an ebike thing, more on the saddle peddaling up, not sure. You seem on the fence about the sqlab?

I went with 165mm, seems to be working well for me.

That's odd, I've never dropped a chain on this bike and I never ran a guide on my old bike either. The only time the chain might drop is when the chainring is really worn down and the narrow/wide tooth profile is no longer working effectively.

With the saddle I'm starting to think its more an ebike thing than a problem with the new saddle. This is my first ebike so my theory is you spend more time pedaling in a seated position instead of standing sometimes, with the ebike I probably just bump up the assistance if I'm struggling with a climb instead of standing. Also I now ride for longer, my average ride was 20 - 25km and now its more like 40 - 50km.

The original saddle was painful after just one hour of riding, it was a really bad shape for me, just too narrow I think. I don't want to keep chasing the perfect saddle as that can get expensive really fast. The SQLab seems comfortable for at least 2 hours and I will keep playing with my seat position, I have seen some dramatic improvements here already.

 

[cookie70]

That's odd, I've never dropped a chain on this bike and I never ran a guide on my old bike either.

Unfortunately where I ride its just not an option, otherwise this is common

 

[Longfellow78]

what size cranks? I'm thinking of 160mm XT for my rise. I don't get tons of crankstrikes but think it would help being shorter.

I've considered 34 but riding without the guide is a big no for me. I took the guide off and where I ride I had the chain come off a few times which is not nice.

I'm looking for another saddle for this bike. I swapped to my goto chromag seat but have issues on this bike, I guess its an ebike thing, more on the saddle peddaling up, not sure. You seem on the fence about the sqlab?

I got 160mm xt cranks and they are really good.

 

[theremotejuggernaut]

I can play this game now,

I collected my H30 on Tuesday and spent yesterday tinkering.

So far,

Swapped the Dissector from front to back and fitted a 2.5wt Minion DHF Maxxgrip up front. Set both up tubeless. Had to use the old 'inner tube in to seat the bead' trick as they weren't going anywhere with just a track pump.

Manitou Mezzer Pro replaced the Z2. Dropped the travel on the Mezzer to 150mm for the time being. It's quite a tall fork so it'll probably stay that way.

Brakes... The bike should have come with some non series twin pots so I bought a set of M6120s in anticipation (£160 from Merlin was a bargain). Fully prepared to drop the motor to run the hoses I was half happy and half disappointed that the bike actually came with M6100 twin pots.

It was good, because they're better that what was supposed to be on there but at the same time bad, because if I'd have realised I would have just bought SLX calipers for the same money. Considered sending back the Deores but there's no appreciable difference in power. They're just shinier.

Swapped the front disc to an XT Ice Tech 203. Bought a matching 180 rear without thinking and obviously, it doesn't have the magnet so that'll be going back. Also want some metallic pads as I'm not keen on the bite from the resin ones.

Grips, went for Deathgrip because I find the really comfy. Black is boring though so might buy some orange clamps for them.

Saddle I changed for a Specialized Phenom Expert. Was considering the Pro but it's a big increase in price for a small decrease in weight.

Fitted an Invisiframe kit which was painful. Not so much the kit, just that I'd have rather been riding that fitting it!

Next on the cards will probably be the wheels and a lighter cassette. It's been an expensive few days thought so that needs to wait for a bit.

I'll be seappingbthe dropper too. I reckon I'll easily get a 180 on there, maybe even more. Probably a Oneup. Oh, and while we're in that subject... Probably some Carbon Bars as well as they've been super comfy on my hardtail so far.

Does it ever stop??