Expert is $9500.
It is clear that specialized understands the state of the bike market right now. My 2022 Expert was 11k in 2021.
Levo Gen 4 Levo Gen 4 Rumours Born-Again
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It is clear that specialized understands the state of the bike market right now. My 2022 Expert was 11k in 2021.
Yes this is what I plan to do but one does not know how the gen4 fits with 180 fox elite or zeb ultimate/eg ttx22 160 coil
I believe that was before Trump announced the 32% tariff on Taiwan.
Yes is what I was told.
Hear a lot about other specs but not a lot about actual motor brand, or did I miss that. Could they really keep that a secret ??
Chiefworm
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If you are medium size and ride in a particular way then maybe. But I prefer full 29er and the stability. The way forward is a bike that can be run either way. Also larger size frames look like dogs having a poo.
Is that so you can check for damage after the fisting you get when paying for it?
Must admit I haven't noticed much difference in 29 er . Started 26 inch , so gradually worked up and adapted since 87.
The way things are going we won't afford the power to charge an Ebike
. So if you have a real bike don't sell it 
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My prediction on possible battery capacity and weight was already done way back in December Post #819 of the previous thread where I predicted a 850Wh and a 567Wh battery.
Now that we have more information my educated guess for the 840Wh(42 x 5,5Ah cells) battery would be 4,2 kg.
The smaller battery should be 2,8 kg for what I think will be a 560Wh(28 x 5,5Ah cells) battery. Unless they used different even higher capacity cells(5,8Ah) for it to make it 600Wh, but that would make it heavier. If someone knows more correct me if I’m wrong.
The extender falls into the calculations with 280Wh(14x 5,5Ah cells) and an approximate weight of 1,4kg.
Although while these are side removable batteries, the weight could be higer because of the way of plugging and securing it into the frame.
Now that we have more information my educated guess for the 840Wh(42 x 5,5Ah cells) battery would be 4,2 kg.
The smaller battery should be 2,8 kg for what I think will be a 560Wh(28 x 5,5Ah cells) battery. Unless they used different even higher capacity cells(5,8Ah) for it to make it 600Wh, but that would make it heavier. If someone knows more correct me if I’m wrong.
The extender falls into the calculations with 280Wh(14x 5,5Ah cells) and an approximate weight of 1,4kg.
Although while these are side removable batteries, the weight could be higer because of the way of plugging and securing it into the frame.
Your still guessing nobody knows ?My prediction on possible battery capacity and weight was already done way back in December Post #819 of the previous thread.
Now that we have more information my educated guess for the 840Wh(42 x 5,5Ah cells) battery would be 4,2 kg.
The smaller battery should be 2,8 kg for what I think will be a 560Wh(28 x 5,5Ah cells) battery. Unless they used different even higher capacity cells(5,8Ah) for it to make it 600Wh, but that would make it heavier. If someone knows more correct me if I’m wrong.
The extender falls into the calculations with 280Wh(14x 5,5Ah cells) and an approximate weight of 1,4kg.
Although while this is a side removable battery, the weight could be higer because of the way of plugging and securing it into the frame.
Not guessing bro, it's based on calculated assessment of market available cells their weight, size and capacity and the needed amount to run a 48V system, you can't cheat physics.
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Beautiful bike and I have to agree I have a coil on my G3 and it’s incredible.
I think this exactly(well built emtbs) will be a slight problem not just for Spesh but all emtb manufacturers.
I guess we all(well most enthusiasts) by now have at least one favorite built up and serviced emtb that we really like.
Unfortunately it probably has a resale value that is a fraction of a new emtb, so it's not really economically to go into selling old and buying new and with all the living costs also rising it just makes it even less possible.
Someone from another region maybe has a different view, but here I see a lot of guys not switching the old ride for new for at least another season.
JP-NZ
E*POWAH Elite World Champion
Integrating apple find my into the display is an awesome feature.
No one else has heard this?
There should also be a solution for Android users ...
Do you have orange clowns in South Africa?
winters3
New Member
That's they Way how speci Marketing still leaves the Door open for a next SL Model...
retrograde
New Member
I was told it's a Brose but geared, not belt drive.
AussieRuss
New Member
Curious for those in the USA.
Does your governments new 30% tariff on items from Taiwan affect Levo prices in the USA?
Or are Bikes not includes in this new tax on USA citizens?
Does your governments new 30% tariff on items from Taiwan affect Levo prices in the USA?
Or are Bikes not includes in this new tax on USA citizens?
AussieRuss
New Member
Correct. That's been know about for almost a year now.
Only thing i have been told is that the motor gears are all metal & not nylon as shown in the Brose motor pictures of the non specialized version. We will see if that's true in 5 days.
Rangemaster
New Member
Well that will be loud, I have a CYC motor on one of my stumpjumpers and it whines.
Well, with Yamaha buying Brose, maybe we will be able to repair the motors going forward, just like the current Yamaha motors.
Two dead ebikes here (not fixable), two analogs. Dying to get a new ebike myself, just waiting for the official releases. All parts good on one ebike, so G4 frameset calling my name. Just bummed wont be able to use my 700 and 500 batteries on it. 840 sounds dreamy for longer rides
Polar
Well-known member
I does work with Android just like with todays phones but not as good.
retrograde
New Member
Since the motor is a new design, we'll see. That's one reason I'm still considering a Crafty Carbon since the Bosch gen5 CX is a bit more of a known quantity. Reliability is my main concern so the 2 year warranty and history of offering an extended warranty could help reduce risk of being a new motor design adopter. Also hoping the German employees at Brose won't be too disaffected by the Yamaha buyout. We want their design/support teams to stay intact.
That said, I think the side-loading design is neat. By allowing both the large and extender batteries to live inside the downtube, I believe the need to have an external cable is eliminated. But it will be interesting to see how high up in the downtube the two batteries will extend. eMTBs based on Bosch's PowerMore design might be able to keep the battery weight lower and allow nimbler handling (since they usually mount at the water bottle bosses). All tradeoffs.
Metal gears can have a reasonable low noise if they are with helical tooth profile (more expensive to manufacture). But I have doubts they will be all metal (how would they keep the weight down??). Also metal gear pairs must be lubricated, will they have oil in the motor?? Motor oil changes incoming?
