Levo Gen 4 Levo Gen 4 Rumours and some facts...
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Correct .. the Gen4 was originally developed around the Mahle M20 motor. There was an aspect about the motor which didn't really fit with the ethos of the Levo.
Therefore they started again. In effect, the Gen4 Levo we'll get is actually the Gen5 - hence the delay ! Seems crazy and must have cost a fortune in parts development, supply chain, moulds etc - but it's Spesh and to give them their due, they want things to be right.
Presumably there's some original Gen4 development bikes out there which would be quite a cool and interesting bike to get your hands on. Maybe one day someone will do a feature on "The bike that never was - The (off) road to perfection" .
i heard it´s still the brose drive s mag but with 110nm in the Top Model
That's even crazier if true. Switching the Mahle and it not working out and then going back to Brose but not even with their newest offering.
tonk
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This thread is really hotting up ! Let’s hope bike lives up to the hype
sluette
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Rando_12345
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Man I don't know how that would go down. Obviously, from an engineering point of view they could/should have made that reliable by now with many hardware and software updates. But from a branding stake, the main thing holding a lot of us back from a levo, after the price, is the reliability concerns of that specific motor. They would really be shooting themselves in the foot if they release a bike with the same motor, unless they do something different with warranty 4years transferrable or something. I really hope that is the next big development in ebikes now that power, weight, geo, range and integration are all coming to a standstill.
MISTER HYDE
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If it was still the Brose S-Mag it would be a big flop, as well as a side cover for the battery with an open frame.
Steps back Instead of forwards !!!
I think is the new Brose Peak which is in fact late with development and therefore supplies. Will see ...
Steps back Instead of forwards !!!
I think is the new Brose Peak which is in fact late with development and therefore supplies. Will see ...
etoni
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I think the new levo has to come with dji motor, otherwise they will miss everything. Brose is too heavy in the past, too problematic and inconsistent. Who is going to buy a 23kg brose 110nm bike for 13000 eur ?
Fanboys.
I'm tired of reading about the DJI motor. Motor isn't everything. In my eyes, the current Levo is better than the Amflow. Also, there are no other bikes with the DJI motor, nor is there much information about the new Levo, but people continue comparing the next-gen Levo with the Amflow or other bikes that have not yet been released.
Eduardoramundo
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Brose Gearbox Motor “Prototype”
etoni
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Oldscool uggly motor.
What am I missing here, the clamour for a DJI motor in everything, but isn’t that motor a bit of an unknown for now regards reliability?
We really are at the point I think that if the Gen 4 Levo isn’t for you, then don’t buy it.
I’m sure Specialized will be just fine.
We really are at the point I think that if the Gen 4 Levo isn’t for you, then don’t buy it.
I’m sure Specialized will be just fine.
Ooh, be careful that you're not labelled like me as an "Amflow hater"
lar1337
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You need a front mudguard
Double l
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Vala probably the best looking ebb right now
lar1337
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Looks like last year's cubes
And every other 4 bar bike out there. But they ride really well apparently.
As of right now from what I have seen, the new trek rail is looking really good. Stock is 160/160mm travel with options to up fork to 180mm and you may be able to up shock it for 173mm….. in a choice between a 160/150mm travel bike and a 180/173mm bike, the choice is pretty easy. I really hope specialized doesn’t drop the ball and offers options for something other than a trail bike.
AussieRuss
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If we look at auto technology a car with a belt drive in the motor requires periodic replacement.
This is what we have wit the current Levo. A belt that requires periodic replacement. I hindsight i am surprised that a service schedule was not released with stores inspecting & replacing belts on a periodic basis based on hours, distance or a service light on the mastermind when belt tension drops away.
The new Brose motor appears to run on gears so the replacement belt issue will be gone or vastly extended.
I am not sure why Specialized are keeping the whole thing under wraps so tightly & for so long. I started hearing about & making posts that the new specialized was going to be 48volt with an ~814 battery a year ago . If it end up being this motor & battery this will be a year long worst kept secret in the industry for me at least.
If I am completely wrong my jaw will hit the floor as one of the best kept secrets in the industry.
No doubt we will know sometime soon.
Also after riding the Amflow it is an awesome trail bike but it is suited to lighter duty than a Levo. I am surprised the Amflow only comes with a 5 year warranty vs Specialized's lifetime warranty on frames.
comparing the Amflow to what is now a 4 year old Levo is a laugh. Technology has moved a lot in 4 years.
This is what we have wit the current Levo. A belt that requires periodic replacement. I hindsight i am surprised that a service schedule was not released with stores inspecting & replacing belts on a periodic basis based on hours, distance or a service light on the mastermind when belt tension drops away.
The new Brose motor appears to run on gears so the replacement belt issue will be gone or vastly extended.
I am not sure why Specialized are keeping the whole thing under wraps so tightly & for so long. I started hearing about & making posts that the new specialized was going to be 48volt with an ~814 battery a year ago . If it end up being this motor & battery this will be a year long worst kept secret in the industry for me at least.
If I am completely wrong my jaw will hit the floor as one of the best kept secrets in the industry.
No doubt we will know sometime soon.
Also after riding the Amflow it is an awesome trail bike but it is suited to lighter duty than a Levo. I am surprised the Amflow only comes with a 5 year warranty vs Specialized's lifetime warranty on frames.
comparing the Amflow to what is now a 4 year old Levo is a laugh. Technology has moved a lot in 4 years.
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Martinizer
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The Trek looks heavy to me. 52+ lbs for a top of the line build with carbon rims. Compare that to 47 for a Santa Crus Vala. Granted the battery is 600 vs 800 but it's still lighter even with a range extender.
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