Could have sworn I saw a 205x60 shock in the spec in the spec sheet but you are right, just checked and it’s 205x65, so long shocking would cost a bit more.
Levo Gen 4 Levo Gen 4 Rumours and some facts...
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Soooo, just trolling the Specialized threads?
Great to hear from you Rob... so errr are you planning on any new youtube videos shortly...?
roQer
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Preorders can be made on the E-Druid with Avinox. Just sayin.
It passes the time.
Presumably because the Kenevo has a 700wh battery and the Vala has a 600wh?
Got a link? I can't find it on the Forbidden website.
Yes, the person I was quoting claimed a vala had more range than a 2025 base Levo. His claim was the new Bosch motor has better “mileage “ a brose. That’s not how it works, a watt hour is a watt hour. The new Bosch battery packs get 600wh out of a lighter package because the new cells are more energy dense. The base 2025 Levo comes with 700wh battery so it will out range a vala.
lar1337
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Weight, fitness, terrain, tyres, suspension.....just to mention a few all play a huge role in range, Wh are just a part of the story.
You forgot to list nm. An 80nm motor will be less efficient for most speeds than a 90 nm. The lower torque motor spends time maxed out than a higher torque motor…. Think diesel engines.
lar1337
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Think you'll find it's the reverse of what you just said.
xtraman122
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Diesel engines vs gasoline engines is an entirely different conversation than 2 electric motors of slightly different specs. If the motors are rated for similar efficiency, unless one is getting hot struggling to keep up causing an efficiency loss due to heat, they should be very similar in usage to complete an identical workload. If anything, the stronger motor would more often spike up to its rated output when accelerating and lead to more overall usage without you intentionally going any faster.
robikinkela
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A little bird told me: the new Levo will have variable geometry, it can be a mullet or a 29er and it will have an integrated battery with three sizes, 450, 600 and 800 W/h plus an optional 250 W/h range extender.
MLX John
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So. Damn. Ugly!
Agreed. Never liked the design with the asymmetrical shock stay. Guessing that’s a small frame, so the bulk of the motor looks disproportionately worse.
Suspect the design of the output stage of the motor (gears vs belt drive, bearing design/quality, etc) has a bigger impact than 80nm vs 90nm.
Bermo EMTB
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never did like the LOG EFFECT ,
Eduardoramundo
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So, so far we have :-
Levo
Motor - Brose 48v 95nm
Battery - 600wh and 800wh
Range Extender - 250wh
Charging - Rapid
Geometry - variable for Mullet & 29er
Travel - 160mm/150mm
Controller - Bluetooth Wireless
Price - More
Possible Status-E?
Levo
Motor - Brose 48v 95nm
Battery - 600wh and 800wh
Range Extender - 250wh
Charging - Rapid
Geometry - variable for Mullet & 29er
Travel - 160mm/150mm
Controller - Bluetooth Wireless
Price - More
Possible Status-E?
Glad you agree and i'm sure the new one will have a similar look.
You mean a similar look to the SL, without that ugly shock stay.
Polar
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What about display and technology?
GeordieKenevo
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Going by what's been said on this thread, it sounds like it's just going to be a rebadged Brose Drive³ Peak motor running on the 48V system which was detailed back in 2023 on sites like Caution: High voltage! – Brose present the eagerly awaited Drive³ Peak motor in the 48V system and a concept motor with an integrated stepless drivetrain
Snippets from the above...
"Like the previous top model, it provides 410% maximum motor support, but the maximum torque has been increased from 90 Nm to 95 Nm. Weighing 2.9 kg and packed into a magnesium housing, the key parameters have seen little change from the previous model. However, Brose attribute the new drive with an improved design and optimised integration, promising an exceptional riding experience with further reduced noise levels"
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"The motor manufacturer is adopting a unique approach with the new batteries for the 48V Brose Drive System. Initially, batteries with capacities of 468 Wh and 814 Wh will be available. What sets them apart is that they share the same format and aluminium housing, measuring 385x83x64 mm in dimension. However, the “smaller” battery weighs merely 3 kg, while the battery with the higher capacity, but identical in size, weighs 4.1 kg. The battery is installed in the frame but not fixed, allowing for removal and external charging."
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"The Smart Fast Charger is designed to charge at a rate of 220-250W, with the maximum charging power peaking at 350W. As per Brose’s information, this translates to a full battery charge time of approximately 3 to 4 hours."
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NOTE I have zero knowledge of any of this professionally or personally just what I've picked up in this thread and pasting an article from June 2023 but would be interesting for those that have seen it to use some reactions to see if we are getting close
Would be surprised if they get rid of the ugly shock stay.
Why would you be surprised? Their design language has completely moved away from that design on every other bike in their range.
DuncanDoughnuts
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I personaly like it.... but then again I like airplane food too
That's been the one given, ever since this thread started.
TheMirrorVision
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The Levo followed the previous Stumpjumper design language and the new Stumpjumper no longer has a brace. Ergo it makes sense to believe the next Levo will not have one either.
I always liked the non drive side shots on my Kenevo
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