Dji avinox- Amflow

Astro66

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Your not getting pal
Obviously you can do what you want to a bike once you have bought it if your not bothered about the law or your warranty and i absolutely have no problem with that but that’s not the issue here , the law and legislation on motor speed and output is black and white for the manufacturers and if they get caught braking that by supplying the bikes not complying they will get stopped completely.
You just cant do that.
There was a famous case going back a few years regarding KTM where they supplied a full power 125 to a young lad who should have been restricted to 12 BHP according to his country law he crashed the bike and died and KTM were taken to court and found guilty.
Listen. Amflow isn't supplying the bikes directly. The are being sold through Local Bike Stores. And as I have posted in this thread previously. I have been in contact with Camden Cycles. They have clearly stated the Amflow EMTB is restricted to 25kph. And any tampering with this, will void your warranty.

If other distributors are not setting the limits correctly. It has nothing to do with the brand name on the bike. It's on the local distributors to check the bikes comply with local legislation.

Just like in New Zealand, the local distributors are increasing the limits on the same bike as mine, with a Shimano Motor, to 45kph. As that is the law.

We actually have Amflow Support posting in this forum, in a support thread. Why don't you ask them about their region settings, rather than speculating who is doing what ?

Here's the link. I look forward to your report about the outcome of your conversation with them.
 
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Motohawk75

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Listen. Amflow isn't supplying the bikes directly. The are being sold through Local Bike Stores. And as I have posted in this thread previously. I have been in contact with Camden Cycles. They have clearly stated the Amflow EMTB is restricted to 25kph. And any tampering with this, will void your warranty.

If other distributors are not setting the limits correctly. It has nothing to do with the brand name on the bike. It's on the local distributors for the bikes to comply with local legislation.

Just like in New Zealand, the local distributors are increasing the limits on the same bike as mine, with a Shimano Motor, to 45kph. As that is the law.
Nope that’s incorrect unfortunately.

It is absolutely the manufacturers responsibility! They should not be selling the bike with an option and the ability to change the region and there for brake the law.
No other motor manufacturer is or has does that for that exact reason , you can’t seriously then push the blame on the dealer for not changing it when the customer can simply change it back !!!
They need to stop being sloppy with that department and like everyone else have the bikes set to the proper country/ region before sending them to distro ! It’s black and white otherwise when shit comes to shove , and it will They will be blaming each other …..
There’s an obvious reason why Bosch , Yamaha , Bros and Shimano to mention the big top 4 all do not give the distro or dealer and certainly not the customer the ability to change it because they know then they can keep the supply with no issues.
DGI are braking the law and it won’t be long before it all comes to a stop unfortunately.
 

Astro66

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Nope that incorrect unfortunately
It is absolutely the manufacturers responsibility! They should not be selling the bike with an option and the ability to change the region and there for brake the law. No other motor manufacturer is or has does that for that exact reason , you can’t seriously then push the blame on the dealer for not changing it when the customer can simply change it back !!!
They need to stop being sloppy with that department and like everyone else have the bikes set to the proper country/ region before sending them to distro ! It’s black and white otherwise when shit comes to shove , and it will !! They will be blaming each other ….. there is an obvious reason why Bosch , Yamaha , Bros and Shimano to mention to big top 4 all do not give the distro , dealer ans certainly not the customer the ability to change it because they know then they can keep the supply with no issues. DGI are braking the law and it won’t be long before it all comes to a stop unfortunately.
All motors can have their regions changed. This then changes it limits.

If customers, like me, change the settings. It's not on the bike supplier.

Anyway. We clearly disagree. And that is fine.
 

Astro66

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My guess is, Thats a reason why can not sell as emtb in all countries right now
More speculation. Why don't you guys actually ask Amflow Support in this forum, and get a factual response, rather than continue the speculation ?

Here's the link. Put the issue to bed.
 

Astro66

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They should not be selling the bike with an option and the ability to change the region and there for brake the law.
Well it can be done to a Shimano Motor. So I guess you have more threads to protest in. :ROFLMAO:

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Motohawk75

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Well it can be done to a Shimano Motor. So I guess you have more threads to protest in. :ROFLMAO:

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😆🙈 your misinterpreting what I am saying , obviously there are ways to cheat and hack anything , software or hardware chips can and do change the region but again and for the record I don’t give a shit myself but it’s against the law to do so. Shimano and Bosch etc do not supply the bikes to the dealers with the ability to access the option to change to limit for an obvious reason….. because if they do they are liable end of.
 

Motohawk75

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All motors can have their regions changed. This then changes it limits.

If customers, like me, change the settings. It's not on the bike supplier.

Anyway. We clearly disagree. And that is fine.
I agree let’s agree to disagree 👍 but in essence I don’t think we are disagreeing, perhaps I am not getting my point across very well …… I like you would absolutely change my speed limit / region on my bike if I had the ability to so without any warranty issue etc and would take it on the chin if I got into hot water because of it 100%.

What I am saying is they are taking a massive risk by having the bikes sent out not on the correct region and leaving the option to simply changing for the customer to choose, for example there’s no legal age limit needed to by an Ebike (certainly not in the UK)
imagine a 13 year nipper buys one because his parents think it’s safe as it only has the ability to reach a safe 15mph and soon after he’s changed it and hit a car or a tree at 40mph and had a fatal ….. they will be looking to absolutely crucify the bike company / dealer / supplier and holding them liable.
 

Motohawk75

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"Personally I don'y care"!

You clearly do.

May I suggest, you worry about more important things.
You might not give a shit and that fine but if you worked in the industry you too would be concerned as if it goes tits up and there’s issues with obviously law and legislation brakes they could easily end up recategorising e-bikes and that would effect all of us unfortunately. There is a reason why none of the other manufacturers offer the end user the ability to change it.
 

DanMcDan

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I see the loam wolf review of the amflow seems to think that the frame is very flexy when ridden hard.

Is this a trait that any owners on here have noticed?

Not had any issues with flex etc, and i took the bike to Dyfi recently and ran it in back to back testing with my V10 DH bike. All these nay-sayers obviously ride like peppa pig :)
 

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