Cube one77 2025

Rando_12345

Well-known member
Nov 16, 2022
408
573
France
Hi, received my 2025 One77 SLX in size L on wednesday and took 2 very short rides on it.

I ordered the Bike from Bike24 due to the 15% sale, all in cost me €4300 with shipping. Easily the best deal out there for a Gen 5 bosch.
Bike came shipped in an enormous box with both wheels attached, only the handle bars needed fitting.
Bike looks good in real life, proportions are nice, my size L was 24.8kg with tubes in the tyres, no pedals.

Negatives:
  • The battery cover is a pretty weak design, like a rubberized thing that just sits on top of the battery hole. I cant imagine that would fare well in wetter climates, even just cleaning the bike tons of water will flow into the cover.
  • Battery latching mechanism is really poor design, crazy amount of movement from stock. It seems it has the foam insert on the bottom part similar to the updates they made for trek rails. I moved the lower mount to tighten the battery, still a fair bit of play despite having to force the battery in. I have put a bit of foam on the inside back of my frameso the battery rests against it, this seems to have done a pretty good job silencing it. The mechanism also needs a key to unlcok the battery, I knew this going in, but it's still a tedious system. I wonder if I could replace it one day, i would hapilly have a really secure/stable mounting that took me a few minutes to unlock rather than the current fast but loose system.
  • Geo is as advertised, which is to say pretty standard but quite low. I didn't expect the bike to be so progressive though, both the fork and shock are only giving me 80% of travel despite normal sag values. Rear wheel will only take a Schwalbe 2.6 max, and even that is tight. Hitting cranks about as much as on my Giant, but I know I can get a bit more clearance by making the suspension more linear+stiffer.
  • Loam Shelf: I rode in slightly damp conditions (2hrs of rain the previous day), so much crap accumulates behind the seat tube. They have a rubber protector but for some incomprehensible reason it only covers the lower 20% of the area and not the 2 bearing areas that get covered in mud.
Positives:
  • Value is insane, even before the discount. I started moving over some of my components, bar/stem and wheels, planning to swap over the drivetrain (I ride 11s SRAM) and upgrade suspension eventually. That said, the bike out of the box is seriously good with absolutely no weak link. Seatpost/wheels/tyres/drivetrain/suspension/brakes, there isn't a single thing to throw away other than maybe the ugly stem (and its spacers), and the 165mm cranks, but that is quite personal.
  • Rides well, the bike is a bit longer in reach than my old one, but shorter out back. I need to get used to it, but feels good and much stiffer than my full alloy so far.
  • Very silent ride.
  • Very light feeling, probably helped by my overly stiff suspension, but despite only being ~1.5kg lighter than my outgoing Reign, the front can be picked up like it's nothing. I'm guessing the much shorter, lower placed and lighter battery help massively here.
  • Gen 5 Bosch is good, I think most people here have a gen 4 and can expect a similar feel for the Gen 5. Compared to my outgoing yamaha, I'm surprised how close the Yamaha was on low RPM torque, maybe even ahead. But once you start spinning and putting in a bit more effort there is definitely more power on tap from the Bosch. I'll do some range tests in the coming weeks, but it is a busy time at home/work currently.


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Tomomomom

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Jan 19, 2025
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West Yorkshire
Just interested to see how you’ve gotten along with the bike since your initial comments.

Have you come across any further issues with the battery cover and it lettering water in to the frame?

Have you had any instances where the battery becomes loose and you loose power or has your foam install solved this rattling?

Thanks
 

Rando_12345

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Nov 16, 2022
408
573
France
Didn't get any real riding in this week.

Water won't be an issue where I live as it's dry enough all year long, the message was more of a warning to UK and ireland riders.

I think the battery is quite stable, I do sometimes get a rattle but I think it's the chain. I'm moving a lot of stuff around from my old bike, I'll post updates here and there.

Right now the bike is sitting at 24.9kg with pedals, mudguard, pump and multi tool. Will probably get a zeb ultimate, and considering getting a 600wh battery to have a fully loaded 23.5kg build for most rides.
 

Bndit

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Jul 14, 2022
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677
Finland
Didn't get any real riding in this week.

Water won't be an issue where I live as it's dry enough all year long, the message was more of a warning to UK and ireland riders.

I think the battery is quite stable, I do sometimes get a rattle but I think it's the chain. I'm moving a lot of stuff around from my old bike, I'll post updates here and there.

Right now the bike is sitting at 24.9kg with pedals, mudguard, pump and multi tool. Will probably get a zeb ultimate, and considering getting a 600wh battery to have a fully loaded 23.5kg build for most rides.
Those battery covers are not suppose to be waterproof because components inside are. They just keep most of it out.
 

Rando_12345

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Nov 16, 2022
408
573
France
That's the YT ~600ml bottle, note that I have a multi tool underneath it which raises the bottle about 2cm.

Out of the box BB was a bit lower than I had hoped, 335mm, definitely too low for 170mm rear with stock 165mm cranks.
 

Trickz

E*POWAH Master
Patreon
Sep 2, 2019
282
273
Burton upon Trent
Hi, received my 2025 One77 SLX in size L on wednesday and took 2 very short rides on it.

I ordered the Bike from Bike24 due to the 15% sale, all in cost me €4300 with shipping. Easily the best deal out there for a Gen 5 bosch.
Bike came shipped in an enormous box with both wheels attached, only the handle bars needed fitting.
Bike looks good in real life, proportions are nice, my size L was 24.8kg with tubes in the tyres, no pedals.

Negatives:
  • The battery cover is a pretty weak design, like a rubberized thing that just sits on top of the battery hole. I cant imagine that would fare well in wetter climates, even just cleaning the bike tons of water will flow into the cover.
  • Battery latching mechanism is really poor design, crazy amount of movement from stock. It seems it has the foam insert on the bottom part similar to the updates they made for trek rails. I moved the lower mount to tighten the battery, still a fair bit of play despite having to force the battery in. I have put a bit of foam on the inside back of my frameso the battery rests against it, this seems to have done a pretty good job silencing it. The mechanism also needs a key to unlcok the battery, I knew this going in, but it's still a tedious system. I wonder if I could replace it one day, i would hapilly have a really secure/stable mounting that took me a few minutes to unlock rather than the current fast but loose system.
  • Geo is as advertised, which is to say pretty standard but quite low. I didn't expect the bike to be so progressive though, both the fork and shock are only giving me 80% of travel despite normal sag values. Rear wheel will only take a Schwalbe 2.6 max, and even that is tight. Hitting cranks about as much as on my Giant, but I know I can get a bit more clearance by making the suspension more linear+stiffer.
  • Loam Shelf: I rode in slightly damp conditions (2hrs of rain the previous day), so much crap accumulates behind the seat tube. They have a rubber protector but for some incomprehensible reason it only covers the lower 20% of the area and not the 2 bearing areas that get covered in mud.
Positives:
  • Value is insane, even before the discount. I started moving over some of my components, bar/stem and wheels, planning to swap over the drivetrain (I ride 11s SRAM) and upgrade suspension eventually. That said, the bike out of the box is seriously good with absolutely no weak link. Seatpost/wheels/tyres/drivetrain/suspension/brakes, there isn't a single thing to throw away other than maybe the ugly stem (and its spacers), and the 165mm cranks, but that is quite personal.
  • Rides well, the bike is a bit longer in reach than my old one, but shorter out back. I need to get used to it, but feels good and much stiffer than my full alloy so far.
  • Very silent ride.
  • Very light feeling, probably helped by my overly stiff suspension, but despite only being ~1.5kg lighter than my outgoing Reign, the front can be picked up like it's nothing. I'm guessing the much shorter, lower placed and lighter battery help massively here.
  • Gen 5 Bosch is good, I think most people here have a gen 4 and can expect a similar feel for the Gen 5. Compared to my outgoing yamaha, I'm surprised how close the Yamaha was on low RPM torque, maybe even ahead. But once you start spinning and putting in a bit more effort there is definitely more power on tap from the Bosch. I'll do some range tests in the coming weeks, but it is a busy time at home/work currently.


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Hello what Reach stem is that? Just looking at one of these atm
 

Rando_12345

Well-known member
Nov 16, 2022
408
573
France
I'm on a size L (475 reach) with a 40mm stem, I'm 1m78 tall. Longest bike I've ever owned, buy only by 5mm, feels good.

The stack is quite high on the bike, probably due to the headset. I have +40mm bars and am finding them taller than when I had them on my previous bike with a 180mm fork.
 

Trickz

E*POWAH Master
Patreon
Sep 2, 2019
282
273
Burton upon Trent
Thanks buddy🙏well I’ve bought the bike now after convincing myself I was going for the reign e+1 then the also heavily discounted hybrid ONE55 😂hopefully this one actually gets to me not damaged like the two reigns that I had to return almost two years ago,that and a divorce stopped all the fun😂
 

Mister cube

New Member
Dec 28, 2024
47
31
Isle of wight
Hi, received my 2025 One77 SLX in size L on wednesday and took 2 very short rides on it.

I ordered the Bike from Bike24 due to the 15% sale, all in cost me €4300 with shipping. Easily the best deal out there for a Gen 5 bosch.
Bike came shipped in an enormous box with both wheels attached, only the handle bars needed fitting.
Bike looks good in real life, proportions are nice, my size L was 24.8kg with tubes in the tyres, no pedals.

Negatives:
  • The battery cover is a pretty weak design, like a rubberized thing that just sits on top of the battery hole. I cant imagine that would fare well in wetter climates, even just cleaning the bike tons of water will flow into the cover.
  • Battery latching mechanism is really poor design, crazy amount of movement from stock. It seems it has the foam insert on the bottom part similar to the updates they made for trek rails. I moved the lower mount to tighten the battery, still a fair bit of play despite having to force the battery in. I have put a bit of foam on the inside back of my frameso the battery rests against it, this seems to have done a pretty good job silencing it. The mechanism also needs a key to unlcok the battery, I knew this going in, but it's still a tedious system. I wonder if I could replace it one day, i would hapilly have a really secure/stable mounting that took me a few minutes to unlock rather than the current fast but loose system.
  • Geo is as advertised, which is to say pretty standard but quite low. I didn't expect the bike to be so progressive though, both the fork and shock are only giving me 80% of travel despite normal sag values. Rear wheel will only take a Schwalbe 2.6 max, and even that is tight. Hitting cranks about as much as on my Giant, but I know I can get a bit more clearance by making the suspension more linear+stiffer.
  • Loam Shelf: I rode in slightly damp conditions (2hrs of rain the previous day), so much crap accumulates behind the seat tube. They have a rubber protector but for some incomprehensible reason it only covers the lower 20% of the area and not the 2 bearing areas that get covered in mud.
Positives:
  • Value is insane, even before the discount. I started moving over some of my components, bar/stem and wheels, planning to swap over the drivetrain (I ride 11s SRAM) and upgrade suspension eventually. That said, the bike out of the box is seriously good with absolutely no weak link. Seatpost/wheels/tyres/drivetrain/suspension/brakes, there isn't a single thing to throw away other than maybe the ugly stem (and its spacers), and the 165mm cranks, but that is quite personal.
  • Rides well, the bike is a bit longer in reach than my old one, but shorter out back. I need to get used to it, but feels good and much stiffer than my full alloy so far.
  • Very silent ride.
  • Very light feeling, probably helped by my overly stiff suspension, but despite only being ~1.5kg lighter than my outgoing Reign, the front can be picked up like it's nothing. I'm guessing the much shorter, lower placed and lighter battery help massively here.
  • Gen 5 Bosch is good, I think most people here have a gen 4 and can expect a similar feel for the Gen 5. Compared to my outgoing yamaha, I'm surprised how close the Yamaha was on low RPM torque, maybe even ahead. But once you start spinning and putting in a bit more effort there is definitely more power on tap from the Bosch. I'll do some range tests in the coming weeks, but it is a busy time at home/work currently.


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Dont worry about the battery cover,its fine,mine spends a lot of time in wales in all weathers,dry as a bone underneath.
 

Mister cube

New Member
Dec 28, 2024
47
31
Isle of wight
Hi, received my 2025 One77 SLX in size L on wednesday and took 2 very short rides on it.

I ordered the Bike from Bike24 due to the 15% sale, all in cost me €4300 with shipping. Easily the best deal out there for a Gen 5 bosch.
Bike came shipped in an enormous box with both wheels attached, only the handle bars needed fitting.
Bike looks good in real life, proportions are nice, my size L was 24.8kg with tubes in the tyres, no pedals.

Negatives:
  • The battery cover is a pretty weak design, like a rubberized thing that just sits on top of the battery hole. I cant imagine that would fare well in wetter climates, even just cleaning the bike tons of water will flow into the cover.
  • Battery latching mechanism is really poor design, crazy amount of movement from stock. It seems it has the foam insert on the bottom part similar to the updates they made for trek rails. I moved the lower mount to tighten the battery, still a fair bit of play despite having to force the battery in. I have put a bit of foam on the inside back of my frameso the battery rests against it, this seems to have done a pretty good job silencing it. The mechanism also needs a key to unlcok the battery, I knew this going in, but it's still a tedious system. I wonder if I could replace it one day, i would hapilly have a really secure/stable mounting that took me a few minutes to unlock rather than the current fast but loose system.
  • Geo is as advertised, which is to say pretty standard but quite low. I didn't expect the bike to be so progressive though, both the fork and shock are only giving me 80% of travel despite normal sag values. Rear wheel will only take a Schwalbe 2.6 max, and even that is tight. Hitting cranks about as much as on my Giant, but I know I can get a bit more clearance by making the suspension more linear+stiffer.
  • Loam Shelf: I rode in slightly damp conditions (2hrs of rain the previous day), so much crap accumulates behind the seat tube. They have a rubber protector but for some incomprehensible reason it only covers the lower 20% of the area and not the 2 bearing areas that get covered in mud.
Positives:
  • Value is insane, even before the discount. I started moving over some of my components, bar/stem and wheels, planning to swap over the drivetrain (I ride 11s SRAM) and upgrade suspension eventually. That said, the bike out of the box is seriously good with absolutely no weak link. Seatpost/wheels/tyres/drivetrain/suspension/brakes, there isn't a single thing to throw away other than maybe the ugly stem (and its spacers), and the 165mm cranks, but that is quite personal.
  • Rides well, the bike is a bit longer in reach than my old one, but shorter out back. I need to get used to it, but feels good and much stiffer than my full alloy so far.
  • Very silent ride.
  • Very light feeling, probably helped by my overly stiff suspension, but despite only being ~1.5kg lighter than my outgoing Reign, the front can be picked up like it's nothing. I'm guessing the much shorter, lower placed and lighter battery help massively here.
  • Gen 5 Bosch is good, I think most people here have a gen 4 and can expect a similar feel for the Gen 5. Compared to my outgoing yamaha, I'm surprised how close the Yamaha was on low RPM torque, maybe even ahead. But once you start spinning and putting in a bit more effort there is definitely more power on tap from the Bosch. I'll do some range tests in the coming weeks, but it is a busy time at home/work currently.


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An rrp proguard will stop all the crap at the back,get th extender with it and the guard goes all the way down to the back of the motor,same rear pivot as mine,i have just replaced the bottom pivot bearings after two years.
 

Rando_12345

Well-known member
Nov 16, 2022
408
573
France
First big ride: 30km 1250m+ 80% battery usage in full turbo, ~10degrees.

Bike felt great, the main aim was to beat my time on a tech rocky climb, got it down from 11.40 to 10.40 (baseline was my giant with Yamaha).

Felt good on jumps and most descents.


 

FeelFreeMTB

New Member
Nov 27, 2024
21
7
Netherlands
First big ride: 30km 1250m+ 80% battery usage in full turbo, ~10degrees.

Bike felt great, the main aim was to beat my time on a tech rocky climb, got it down from 11.40 to 10.40 (baseline was my giant with Yamaha).

Felt good on jumps and most descents.


Great video! What stem have you got there, that's not original? And does it fit the oval rubber part beneath? What happened in the end of the vid, chainsuck?
 

Rando_12345

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Nov 16, 2022
408
573
France
Cheers!

Some random FSA stem, I replaced all the oval spacers with normal ones, only kept the base thing that the cables enter into.

I shifted up into an easy gear, but the chain slid 2-3 gears down instead. Luckily nothing got ripped off.
 

garypalmer

Member
Apr 15, 2020
10
7
Torre-Pacheco
Very interesting thread for me, I've been riding the E-Reing for 2 years now and next week I got the 177, same size, Large. I'm a little disappointed with something I was already expecting, the bottom bracket is very low like the Reign, I already had to put the Zeb at 190, in the high position and 155mm Miranda cranks in the Giant. I will do the same in the 177.

I'm a fan of the 2.4 but maybe I'll go to the 2.5, I want to avoid pedal hits as much as possible, being a nightmare like on the Giant.

I'm going to watch your videos carefully.
 

Rando_12345

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Nov 16, 2022
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Build complete and big test done!

I put Rockshox' latest "ultimate" fork and vivid air shock on it, I have a 600Wh battery for midweek rides and the 800Wh for big days. Gx 11s for weight and clearance.

BB height: 140mm cranks, steep headangle setting, 2.6 tyres, taller fork. My BB is just over 340mm high, a bit annoyed as that is what I expected out of the box and would have liked it use the tricks above to get it to 350mm which I feel is safe for a 170mm bike. A bit frustrating that some of the best tyres only come on 2.4, which gives away too much height.

Weight: without pedals my bike weighs 23kg on the dot, with the 600Wh battery and DH level tyres. Most of the savings come from the smaller battery (-900g), my drivetrain (-500g) and the fork (-300g).

Range: nothing too surprising for the Bosch owners. I got 1200m ascending over 25km with the 600Wh in Turbo. Can aim for just over 1700m ascending over 30km with the 800Wh in Turbo (slightly cold, 78kg rider, hard pack terrain).

Ride: really happy with the ride feel, stock bike was actually pretty good with the midrange fox stuff, but because it is so low, I found it hard to balance keeping the bike plush yet high off the ground. The rockshox stuff is really nice, even running it stiff, hard impacts will still use a lot/most of the travel but the bike stays high over all and pretty comfy. If I had the extra 1cm of BB height I would run the shock around 33% SAG and it would be a magic carpet ride, at 28% it's sporty but good.

Probably the quietest bike I have ever owned (non ebikes included).
 

garypalmer

Member
Apr 15, 2020
10
7
Torre-Pacheco
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Build complete and big test done!

I put Rockshox' latest "ultimate" fork and vivid air shock on it, I have a 600Wh battery for midweek rides and the 800Wh for big days. Gx 11s for weight and clearance.

BB height: 140mm cranks, steep headangle setting, 2.6 tyres, taller fork. My BB is just over 340mm high, a bit annoyed as that is what I expected out of the box and would have liked it use the tricks above to get it to 350mm which I feel is safe for a 170mm bike. A bit frustrating that some of the best tyres only come on 2.4, which gives away too much height.

Weight: without pedals my bike weighs 23kg on the dot, with the 600Wh battery and DH level tyres. Most of the savings come from the smaller battery (-900g), my drivetrain (-500g) and the fork (-300g).

Range: nothing too surprising for the Bosch owners. I got 1200m ascending over 25km with the 600Wh in Turbo. Can aim for just over 1700m ascending over 30km with the 800Wh in Turbo (slightly cold, 78kg rider, hard pack terrain).

Ride: really happy with the ride feel, stock bike was actually pretty good with the midrange fox stuff, but because it is so low, I found it hard to balance keeping the bike plush yet high off the ground. The rockshox stuff is really nice, even running it stiff, hard impacts will still use a lot/most of the travel but the bike stays high over all and pretty comfy. If I had the extra 1cm of BB height I would run the shock around 33% SAG and it would be a magic carpet ride, at 28% it's sporty but good.

Probably the quietest bike I have ever owned (non ebikes included).
what BB height and had your old Giant and what travel fork has now on the Zeb?
I am going to install a 190 Zeb (whit Vorspung Luffkape and Fast SC5 cartridge) and 155mm cranks on my 177, have you said 140mm cracks??
 

Rando_12345

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Nov 16, 2022
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what BB height and had your old Giant and what travel fork has now on the Zeb?
I am going to install a 190 Zeb (whit Vorspung Luffkape and Fast SC5 cartridge) and 155mm cranks on my 177, have you said 140mm cracks??

The Giant had something like 325mm BB height in "low" flip chip, and 330mm in high which is what you had to use. I broke 3 sets of 155mm cranks on it in rock gardens despite running 2.6 tyres and 180mm fork, last one resulting in a massive crash and concussion, so baby cranks for me from now on until I find a bike with reasonable BB height.

Copy pasting from myself in another thread:

Out of the Box: BB height 334mm
2.6 tyres front and back: +3mm, BB 337mm
+ Headset cups in steep mode: +2mm, BB 339mm, HA 64.4

Theoretical numbers as it will void your warranty:
+ 190mm fork: BB 345mm (head angle 64degrees with steep cups)

2mm Offset bushing "the wrong way": +4mm at the BB, this would be perfect, plenty of clearance, but they rotate in a single DH run ending up in the -4mm position. This confirms to me that a +3mm clevis or yoke would fix the entire bike.

My bike shop said the giant was still under warranty with a 180mm fork, but Cube are pretty clear on their website that you can't use a longer fork without voding the warranty. So if you were going that route, might as well go all the way to 190mm. With the cups in steep HA mode, you will be pretty much at stock geometry up front so no additional constraints on the frame.
 

FeelFreeMTB

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Is it just me that thinks a low BB is not the only cause of pedal strikes. Mountainbiking is a complex system of a lot of factors coming together: proper steering, leaning into curves, timing of pedals, choosing lines, bunnyhops timing, using your own weight. My analogue Giant Trance has a BB of 330mm, and yeah I have pedal strikes. But not as many now 7 years later, than when I bought the bike.
 

Rando_12345

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Nov 16, 2022
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Is it just me that thinks a low BB is not the only cause of pedal strikes. Mountainbiking is a complex system of a lot of factors coming together: proper steering, leaning into curves, timing of pedals, choosing lines, bunnyhops timing, using your own weight. My analogue Giant Trance has a BB of 330mm, and yeah I have pedal strikes. But not as many now 7 years later, than when I bought the bike.
There are several aspects to this including technique, bike rear travel, suspension kinematics (linear vs progressive) and terrain ridden.

However, mathematically you need a bike with more travel to have a bit more static BB height otherwise it will smash into the floor at full compression, and even riding at sag level it will be too low, examples below for 330mm BB height and 140mm like your Trance vs 170mm like the one77.

@ Full compression:
330 - 140 = 190mm BB height from ground
330 - 170 = 160mm

@30% SAG:
330 - 140*0.3 = 288mm
330 - 170*0.3 = 279mm

More personally, I have had bikes with "normal" BB height like the enduro 29 (355mm for a 150mm travel bike), which I raced at a high level for 3 seasons without any notable cranks strikes, I rode a meta power for 4 years with barely any pedal strikes, never any bent chainrings or marks on the downtube. I also had a low YT Jeffsy that I broke 2 sets of cranks on, and cracked the chainring clean off the bike, and then the giant reign with 3 broken cranks. Even accounting for skill, and I accept I must have some poor foot position, some bikes are simply too low. The cube is on the limit for me, it needs a lot of small fixes to make it safe. Sometimes just a single cm makes a huge difference, e.g. for my Jeffsy I put it into high flipchip with a 160mm fork and it was fine.
 

FeelFreeMTB

New Member
Nov 27, 2024
21
7
Netherlands
There are several aspects to this including technique, bike rear travel, suspension kinematics (linear vs progressive) and terrain ridden.

However, mathematically you need a bike with more travel to have a bit more static BB height otherwise it will smash into the floor at full compression, and even riding at sag level it will be too low, examples below for 330mm BB height and 140mm like your Trance vs 170mm like the one77.

@ Full compression:
330 - 140 = 190mm BB height from ground
330 - 170 = 160mm

@30% SAG:
330 - 140*0.3 = 288mm
330 - 170*0.3 = 279mm

More personally, I have had bikes with "normal" BB height like the enduro 29 (355mm for a 150mm travel bike), which I raced at a high level for 3 seasons without any notable cranks strikes, I rode a meta power for 4 years with barely any pedal strikes, never any bent chainrings or marks on the downtube. I also had a low YT Jeffsy that I broke 2 sets of cranks on, and cracked the chainring clean off the bike, and then the giant reign with 3 broken cranks. Even accounting for skill, and I accept I must have some poor foot position, some bikes are simply too low. The cube is on the limit for me, it needs a lot of small fixes to make it safe. Sometimes just a single cm makes a huge difference, e.g. for my Jeffsy I put it into high flipchip with a 160mm fork and it was fine.
Great of you to respond with so much arguments. Still I think ridingstyle and things such as weight of rider must take into account. Its not all mathematics. And as I watched your videos you are a (semi)pro Enduro rider who risks big jumps. Much bigger I'll ever manage (Respect to you). I will get my ONE77 SLX next week and then let you all know what my experience is.
 

Elbikero

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Feb 10, 2025
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1
France
I bought this bike (thanks everyone here as it helped me a lot take the decision 👍) and could give it a to yesterday evening. I think I never touched the ground with my giant reign 29, yesterday it happened twice and I was clearly nor riding hard stuff at all as usual, just a quick ride on easy descents. So yes it looks like the bike is quite low 😅
Now let's see if it becomes more a problem when riding really my usual steep trails... For now I don't know.

Except that, I need to set up a few things but my first ride was really pleasant, almost easier to bunny up than my not electric giant lol. But my rear suspension had not enough air yesterday so it may have helped I don't know.
 

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