noblige
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Unless you need a bike right away. Every bike with EP8 is on hold for undetermined amount of time right now.
commencal 2021
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Cheers, that’s what I was thinking as well.
It’s a hard decision. The essential for $10k aussie or $12k for the signature which has the spec I would likely end up with down the track anyway.... in for a penny in for a pound may be the best way to approach this ?
Matt_Rider
Member
Is it just me but is the SX a better bike than the 29 Essential? I want the
I was ready to pull the trigger on a 29 Team at or around the old price. Now it's gone up by that much?
New motor looks the goods too apart from the noise when free wheeling. I thought the 29 team was a shoe in. Now i'm back looking at Levo's and Decoys...
I was ready to pull the trigger on a 29 Team at or around the old price. Now it's gone up by that much?
New motor looks the goods too apart from the noise when free wheeling. I thought the 29 team was a shoe in. Now i'm back looking at Levo's and Decoys...
Same here. Was pretty sure my new bike would be new Shimano and probably Commencal. With the pricing and sound it will probably be Levo again.
Bogdan_CH
Member
Us prices are decent but euro ones went through the roof by 20% more (€1200 extra for team) . Pricing in Europe is just crazy :
Matt_Rider
Member
My
Guess is US prices are exclusive of tax. They have a state based tax whereas here in Australia it's a flat 10% gst. Should buy one in America and get it sent here haha
That was my reaction. The entry level bike is €1,000 more than the 2020 entry level bike although 38 instead of 36 but Deore chain and cassette plus still no DT Swiss wheels at that price, come on.
Will be interesting to see where other brands price their EP8 2021 bikes, and particularly YT.
Duggan
Active member
Just been having a skeet, the equivalent spec 27 SX to the last year is about £1000 more expensive ? it does have the Zeb ultimate’s and the new motor and battery etc....
But personally don’t think it has the wow ? factor of either of the 2020 models, both the Sx and Sx signature look incredible.
But personally don’t think it has the wow ? factor of either of the 2020 models, both the Sx and Sx signature look incredible.
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Frirish
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I can bet you the Decoy will get at least a €500 price increase ...
Was looking forward to Commencal new release, but I will be holding on YT, Propain next annoncement and still hope Nukeproof and Vitus will release something (they are usually well place price-wise)
Zedaspedras
Member
The difference in spec from a 36 and a 38 and lyrik to zeb can't ever justify the inflation. They cost about the same...
Zedaspedras
Member
For 7k I'll buy a canyon spectral on and live happily with older engine
I have the YT Decoy elite ordered but the assembly/ dispatch time keeps going back (now mid October from mid August).
With the decoy having the older Shimano motor, I can't help but think about cancelling my order and getting a Commy with the newer motor..... Hmmm
With the decoy having the older Shimano motor, I can't help but think about cancelling my order and getting a Commy with the newer motor..... Hmmm
Indeed, that was my point, probably not very well made.
Or wait for the new YT
shenchman
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propain ekano site with pricing is up fyi
forum thread at Propain Ekano - EMTB Forums
www.propain-bikes.com
27.5, mullet or 29er options
165mm rear travel, 170 front travel
**absolute dealbreaker for me would be 504Wh battery only, no 630Wh option
i added the 29er only to Geometry Geeks which is great to compare geometry between several bikes.
e.g. this url compares 2021 Trek Rail, 2021 Levo Expert, 2021 Propain 29er, 2021 Meta Power 29 in recommended sizes for 185cm height:
geometrygeeks.bike
in general metapower 29 has longer wheelbase, slacker HTA, much steeper STA, lower stack, higher BB height than Levo & Trek.
can't wait to ride the metapower & feel how the steep STA climbs/pedals, & how the seat position feels relative to the bars/reach.
the metapower's high BB & 160mm cranks are a selling point for me too, coming off a Nomad 3 27.5 which has a low BB & 175mm cranks, you basically have to skip/ratchet pedal through anything chunky & really mind your pedals on landings/descents.
forum thread at Propain Ekano - EMTB Forums
EKANO 2 AL | E-Mountainbike | E-Enduro | PROPAIN Bicycles North America
THE absolute fun machine, no matter in which direction. Full force with Shimano EP801, 85 Nm and 600 W peak power.
www.propain-bikes.com
165mm rear travel, 170 front travel
**absolute dealbreaker for me would be 504Wh battery only, no 630Wh option
i added the 29er only to Geometry Geeks which is great to compare geometry between several bikes.
e.g. this url compares 2021 Trek Rail, 2021 Levo Expert, 2021 Propain 29er, 2021 Meta Power 29 in recommended sizes for 185cm height:
Geometry Geeks
The world's biggest open geometry database. Find bikes by name or numbers. Easily compare bike geometry side-by-side.
geometrygeeks.bike
in general metapower 29 has longer wheelbase, slacker HTA, much steeper STA, lower stack, higher BB height than Levo & Trek.
can't wait to ride the metapower & feel how the steep STA climbs/pedals, & how the seat position feels relative to the bars/reach.
the metapower's high BB & 160mm cranks are a selling point for me too, coming off a Nomad 3 27.5 which has a low BB & 175mm cranks, you basically have to skip/ratchet pedal through anything chunky & really mind your pedals on landings/descents.
Bogdan_CH
Member
If the 630w battery is a deal breaker and if you don't want the supper aggressive, there is a new Centurion bike out there with coil and they look sick with the new motor.
Bogdan_CH
Member
Norco Range is at 63.5 and nobody complained.
Bogdan_CH
Member
You ride with people that do very long tracks? Or go on a lot of elevation gain? I've been using a while a Jam2 with 378w battery and while it's not the greatest on long trips but still managed 1200 meters of elevations or on decent climbing at least 50 km's out of the standard battery. People always want the biggest, but to they really need it?
Yes. Levo with 504 kWh now and would like more.
gbarfoot
Active member
New to ebikes coming from Moto. Not sure on the specs and $ difference. I'm in the US so privces seem ok. With this being my first bite ebike purchase what spec 29r would you go for based on components.....mostly what I see is the ability to adjust the fork and shock with comp instead of only spring rate and rebound. In CO so Commencal is 15-20 min away and that is greatly influencing my brand decision.
rb.
Active member
The Essential is lower end components but all decent. Nothing I would say you need to replace right away. If you love it, you can upgrade suspension and other parts down the road.
The Team is mostly all top of the line SRAM stuff. At least brakes and suspension are, which is the important part for me. This is most likely the model I would buy if doing so.
The Signature is top of the line fox with XT shimano. Only thing that really stands out as better over the Team is the dropper post. The suspension/brakes/drivetrain are all personal preference of what brand and ride qualities you want.
rb.
Active member
I do. Nearly every weekend I go on a ride 25+ miles (40km) and 5k’+ (1525m) elevation gain and have to use eco mode the majority of the time; whereas with a slightly bigger battery I think I could do a good portion of that in trail mode.
Not sure how you are getting so much out of a 378wh battery, but that's impressive.
Or didn't buy it because that's perhaps going a bit too far?
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