Bafang m510

[Puschtrale]

update. needs new chainguide, since m500 doesn't fit. the crankarms screw is M16, does not match the M500 M15

pictures of chainguide attached

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Do you know if the new chainguide can be purchased anywhere? My m510 will arrive soon but i ordered only the motor. Thanks

 

[Puschtrale]

Hello everyone. m510 arrived. built-in and tested. a faster engine reaction is immediately felt. stronger power supply on uphills. if some details are still being worked out, let's hope so. on some hills it even delivers too much power at low revs. but you need to get used to it. at some moments 2 and 3 level the engine stops at low cadences when there is no load, when going from uphill to straight. but for the most part there is an improvement and a stronger supply of power on the hills. before on a hill quite steep m500 was the same 4 or 5 level. now the difference is felt. lower battery consumption! now shows in the application bafanggo and bms from the battery similar voltages. and they fixed that part. these are the impressions after the first run of 20 km and 1000m altitude. consumed 40% of the 480wh battery. I will write more comments after another ride.

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Great review . Can you tell us if you compared the new m510 with the m500 with the original firmware or the stronger 13a firmware many of us installed? Would be great if comparison is made with the m500 and 13a firmware

 

[patdam]

It's seem have allready several firmware availabel

CRX10NC4810i142050.6-22-1768-20201109 for karokonig

CRX10NC4814i1401010030 for ficorama

somebody know how we can recovering (and share) firmware installed on her motor ?

 

[Waynemarlow]

Do you know if the new chainguide can be purchased anywhere? My m510 will arrive soon but i ordered only the motor. Thanks

I've been running my M600 right through the winter ( where the chain guide is needed most due to the sticky mud and the likes covering the gears ), having removed the chain guide and fitting the motor with a simple 104BCD narrow wide gear without a single derail. You may want to try it as the £ 10.00 gear seems good value over a chain guide.

 

[thaeber]

Great review . Can you tell us if you compared the new m510 with the m500 with the original firmware or the stronger 13a firmware many of us installed? Would be great if comparison is made with the m500 and 13a firmware

Just learned that the M510 requires M16x1 treaded crank bolt instead of M15 with M500. M16x1 is almost impossible to source. Go back to where You ordered the engine and ask for supply of crank bolts if they are not supplied with the motor!

 

[patdam]

Just learned that the M510 requires M16x1 treaded crank bolt instead of M15 with M500. M16x1 is almost impossible to source. Go back to where You ordered the engine and ask for supply of crank bolts if they are not supplied with the motor!

could you clarify ? it is not "bafang isis" cranks arms ? which bolts do you speak ?

 

[Kyokushin]

It's seem have allready several firmware availabel

CRX10NC4810i142050.6-22-1768-20201109 for karokonig

CRX10NC4814i1401010030 for ficorama

somebody know how we can recovering (and share) firmware installed on her motor ?

we cant pull firmware from engine so far
here are currently avaiable firmwares collected by multiple users:

Bafang_M500_M600/Firmwares/Official/Motor at main · OpenSourceEBike/Bafang_M500_M600

Contribute to OpenSourceEBike/Bafang_M500_M600 development by creating an account on GitHub.

github.com

a word about versioning - the firmwares are not superseeding each other, that means the higher version does not mean new version or better firmware, it does mean the different firmwarer coded to different needs.

 

[patdam]

we cant pull firmware from engine so far
here are currently avaiable firmwares collected by multiple users:

Bafang_M500_M600/Firmwares/Official/Motor at main · OpenSourceEBike/Bafang_M500_M600

Contribute to OpenSourceEBike/Bafang_M500_M600 development by creating an account on GitHub.

github.com

a word about versioning - the firmwares are not superseeding each other, that means the higher version does not mean new version or better firmware, it does mean the different firmwarer coded to different needs.

Not very smart bafang on their policy, may be it is existing a firmware valid for expect of each of us in all rev available ? but without any information on characteristic impossible to know wich and everybody don't appreciate to test ten firmware to find the better for is use

 

[thaeber]

could you clarify ? it is not "bafang isis" cranks arms ? which bolts do you speak ?

This crank bolt. The spline (axle outside) remains unchanged, but the hollow Axle has M16x1 tread instead of M15.
Thanks to @ficorama for the early warning

 

[KaroKönig]

Here more details from the difference between M510 and M600 case.
The speed-sensor mounting is a little bit tricky

 

[ficorama]

when installing the chain guide, the chainring spider should be slightly sanded. because the chain guide bolts get a little stuck.

 

[temon10]

Ok great, I write a new email to John

How much U bought LCSE04 Frame and Bafang Battery from John?

 

[Slaine]

How much U bought LCSE04 Frame and Bafang Battery from John?

John sell only the frame, I bought the complete motor kit with battery directly to BAFANG

 

[patdam]

John sell only the frame, I bought the complete motor kit with battery directly to BAFANG

You are VIP

 

[Slaine]

You are VIP

Sorry, I used OEM area but it is a supplier of BAFANG to quote the M510 MOTOR KIT with BATTERY

 

[Puschtrale]

when installing the chain guide, the chainring spider should be slightly sanded. because the chain guide bolts get a little stuck.

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So the old chainguide of the m500 seems not to fit anymore with the new m510 right? Can someone tell me where to purchase the new chainguide if i ordered only the m510 motor without extra parts?

 

[captainhightop]

Just learned that the M510 requires M16x1 treaded crank bolt instead of M15 with M500. M16x1 is almost impossible to source. Go back to where You ordered the engine and ask for supply of crank bolts if they are not supplied with the motor!

I was just about to make a comment about bafang not sticking to standards but I thought this cartoon expressed it better:

Although M16x1mm seems super weird M16x1.5 I can maybe understand, but x1mm WTF!

I'm guessing I'm going to need one of these and some M16 bolts with a smooth top bit to cut down if I lose mine when the motor shows up:

Pardon our interruption...

 

[SchadowMaster]

Can you please help me choose the right fork for my dengfu size M?
I will be using a 27.5" front and rear wheel.

 

[ficorama]

here are the results of today's ride. the engine is a beast. there are some minor flaws. sometimes in 1pas it does not give enough strength as if it needs to be warmed up a bit. as far as I noticed only when the engine starts, not while driving. from 1pas to 5pas the power is noticeably stronger, a really big improvement. at the start a little too strong power delivery, but you need to get used to it. battery consumption very good. today 33 km, 1400met altitude pas1-pas4, battery 480wh remaining 10% battery. all forest trails, lots of steep uphills. I hope this helped.

 

[KaroKönig]

Assembly complete and ready for the first ride.

 

[rtp]

Can you please help me choose the right fork for my dengfu size M?
I will be using a 27.5" front and rear wheel.
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Looks right (tapered headset) - 'standard' on the X2 incarnation is 160mm fork, but several E10 builders have also used 170mm.

 

[rtp]

Assembly complete and ready for the first ride.
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Is that Dynamat/sound-reduction on the inside of the motor cover plate? Added by you or did it come that way?

Looking forward to hearing how the ride went!

 

[KaroKönig]

Is that Dynamat/sound-reduction on the inside of the motor cover plate? Added by you or did it come that way?

Looking forward to hearing how the ride went!

Is a self-adhesive insulating mat that helps to reduce the noise level a little

 

[thaeber]

Is a self-adhesive insulating mat that helps to reduce the noise level a little

Brand and source please? Looks promising!

 

[SchadowMaster]

here are the results of today's ride. the engine is a beast. there are some minor flaws. sometimes in 1pas it does not give enough strength as if it needs to be warmed up a bit. as far as I noticed only when the engine starts, not while driving. from 1pas to 5pas the power is noticeably stronger, a really big improvement. at the start a little too strong power delivery, but you need to get used to it. battery consumption very good. today 33 km, 1400met altitude pas1-pas4, battery 480wh remaining 10% battery. all forest trails, lots of steep uphills. I hope this helped.

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Have you tried touching the engine by hand to feel if there is noticeable heat after steep uphills?

 

[KaroKönig]

Brand and source please? Looks promising!

It is available from every well-stocked car accessories store

To insulate the engine cover and bash-guard did make a difference on my M600 with steel gears.

Geräuschdämpfung M 600

 

[patdam]

here are the results of today's ride. the engine is a beast. there are some minor flaws. sometimes in 1pas it does not give enough strength as if it needs to be warmed up a bit. as far as I noticed only when the engine starts, not while driving. from 1pas to 5pas the power is noticeably stronger, a really big improvement. at the start a little too strong power delivery, but you need to get used to it. battery consumption very good. today 33 km, 1400met altitude pas1-pas4, battery 480wh remaining 10% battery. all forest trails, lots of steep uphills. I hope this helped.

Thanks. could you try to recover the firmware of your motor from your dealer to share with us ?

 

[SchadowMaster]

Is a self-adhesive insulating mat that helps to reduce the noise level a little

Good idea, it's usually glued under the stainless steel sinks to reduce the sound "noise" from water hitting the sink floor.

 

[temon10]

John sell only the frame, I bought the complete motor kit with battery directly to BAFANG

how much for frame?

 

[Sandur-Rx]

Anyone altered the speed limit on m510 yet?