Other 2025 Rail Gen5 bikes

[mustclime]

lol at gram counters on e bikes. Fun fact, bikes without motors and batteries weigh less than e bikes. You worried about weight, ride a meat powered bike.

 

[JP-NZ]

Is that stock weight? I don’t see how the new one could be heavier. The Gen 5 motor should be 100 grams lighter and the new 800 Wh battery is 400 grams lighter than the previous 750 Wh battery.

Yes that is stock weight, added ME700 spd pedals and lighter tyres. Weighed in at 23.4kg

 

[hahninthehood]

lol at gram counters on e bikes. Fun fact, bikes without motors and batteries weigh less than e bikes. You worried about weight, ride a meat powered bike.

Looking at the weight doesn’t mean I’m worried about it. I wouldn’t buy it if I was. But since this is an enthusiast forum, weight is a factor (among others) in both handling and distance. And as an enthusiast I’m curious about the factors that go into the weight. Is that okay with you?

 

[mustclime]

Looking at the weight doesn’t mean I’m worried about it. I wouldn’t buy it if I was. But since this is an enthusiast forum, weight is a factor (among others) in both handling and distance. And as an enthusiast I’m curious about the factors that go into the weight. Is that okay with you?

The extra weight was needed, I have seen 2 cracked Rail frames and trek increased the travel on the new rail. More travel generally means people are going to ride them harder.

 

[fasterjason]

lol at gram counters on e bikes. Fun fact, bikes without motors and batteries weigh less than e bikes. You worried about weight, ride a meat powered bike.

If I am racing bio then I am concerned about grams overall. On a full-power ebike not so much, but I am concerned about performance and counting grams on rotational and unsprung mass is critical. I have run 170mm forks on my rails for last four years and stroked the shock to 62.5mm.

For a given price point manufacturers should be selling us Al frames with carbon wheels instead of carbon frames with Al wheels.

 

[Free54]

Trek website says size M Rail+ 5 is 25kg more-or-less.

Yes , The Gen5 9.5 alloy weight 25kg with pedals , a real Mullet and 29 wheel is not possible .

 

[Binhill1]

Is that stock weight? I don’t see how the new one could be heavier. The Gen 5 motor should be 100 grams lighter and the new 800 Wh battery is 400 grams lighter than the previous 750 Wh battery.

Nice big battery that

 

[windfed]

Agree with last comments.... how/why the new Rail+ could be heavier?

In italy is still missed.... do you see it "live" in any shop/showroom?

 

[Supernils]

Strange. According to the website: the Rail 5 should be 25,28 kg (med). But according to this YT-short, some store has weighed it to be 1 kg less; 24,23: - YouTube

 

[gfunkmc]

 

[Supernils]

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Aaaaaand... how does it ride? Comparisons?

 

[Bike Bot]

Strangely, these bikes are already being delivered in at least limited quantities in Europe, but there are absolutely no ride reviews anywhere.
It looks like one of the most interesting new Bosch gen5 bikes; the only strange thing is the big gap between M (450mm reach) and L sizes (490 mm reach). Anyway, any fresh owners out there, let us know your thoughts.

 

[irie]

Strangely, these bikes are already being delivered in at least limited quantities in Europe, but there are absolutely no ride reviews anywhere.
It looks like one of the most interesting new Bosch gen5 bikes; the only strange thing is the big gap between M (450mm reach) and L sizes (490 mm reach). Anyway, any fresh owners out there, let us know your thoughts.

My ideal reach is 460 mm and ideal size ML so would 'fall through the crack'. Will stay with what I have, 2022 Rail 5 (alloy) L, even with that had to mess around with the cockpit. Wife's 2022 Rail 5 (alloy) M definitely too small for me.

 

[hctagalong]

Strangely, these bikes are already being delivered in at least limited quantities in Europe, but there are absolutely no ride reviews anywhere.
It looks like one of the most interesting new Bosch gen5 bikes; the only strange thing is the big gap between M (450mm reach) and L sizes (490 mm reach). Anyway, any fresh owners out there, let us know your thoughts.

Indeed strange. No mention of them on the US site, either. Would be nice if @gfunkmc gave a ride report of it. Curious to hear about it.

 

[mustclime]

My ideal reach is 460 mm and ideal size ML so would 'fall through the crack'. Will stay with what I have, 2022 Rail 5 (alloy) L, even with that had to mess around with the cockpit. Wife's 2022 Rail 5 (alloy) M definitely too small for me.

Slide your saddle back on its rails and add 10 mm to your stem …… maybe get a different bar rise….. what’s the problem?

 

[irie]

Slide your saddle back on its rails and add 10 mm to your stem …… maybe get a different bar rise….. what’s the problem?

All sorted last year so no problem now.