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Only spec weakness is the derailer IMO. I'd want Transmission. Also, is it compatible with a range extender? Doesn't say.

I'm sure it does not handle like a 20kg bike, but that's not the same as handling poorly.

I don't think I've seen anyone accusing the Saturn16 of handling poorly. Apparently it handles excellently.

It's a strategy if you can play games with 0% financing and pay it off before interest comes due. Then you don't have to delay your gratification.

> Still this is right the Crestline, without taxes, is a great deal Am I looking at the right Crestline? It starts at $10,000. I don't see how that can possibly be a good deal.

I recently chased down a creak with my Levo. It wasn't related to any recent changes I did. In my case I removed, cleaned, re-lubed and re-torqued my suspension linkage, which fixed it. If you can reproduce the creak with the bike stationary ( I could by driving it into the suspension travel...

I'm a little baffled that anyone is paying with cash. Why not just use CC and pay it off immediately? You get points / cash back / whatever.

Crestline looks really nice, but damned expensive.

Yeah the Pinion doesn't have to be heavy, but especially the Saturn is getting up there where living with it outside of riding might be frustrating.. I recently had the opportunity to ride the Trek Fuel Exe which is probably 8KG lighter than my Levo. It was pretty nice for lifting it on/off the...

I sure hope so. I've been very happy with my gen3. There are only 2 bikes that don't feel like buying old tech right now, and both the Saturn 16 and the Amflow aren't available in the US. :(

Agreed. 28 spoke wheels are a dire national security threat. :P

I don't trust the Chinese, but we kind of fucked ourselves already. Our country would collapse in under a year without Chinese imports. They make everything. If they wanted to fuck us with their exports, they don't need DJI specifically to do it.

I'm not sure how them selling mountain bikes or $200 drones on Amazon is a national security issue.

From the relatively limited info I've seen, the Saturn seems roughly as efficient as other bikes.

Yeah sounds like Bosch could close the gap. I guess the main reason the DGI bike looks so slim is because the battery is integrated, and is above the motor instead of next to it, giving a less chunky BB. I guess we'll see, as right now it's just theoretical that Bosch can amp their motor up.

The only thing there that looks questionable to me is "Damage caused by using the product for stunts, jumps, and other hazardous actions, or improper use." And that sort of depends on how they interpret it. Is doing jumps at all considered not covered, or are they protecting themselves from...

Unreliable how? It looks like my Levo.

Can probably throw a 170mm on it no?

A turned up motor which is remarkably more powerful without being heavier. You're downplaying that quite a bit.

That's why I said comparable bike. And it isn't just the extra power. It's so slim and light. It looks like a Fuel EXe but with twice the range and power.