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And the Rise should get an Offical owners thread

Some valid points, right there! I for one appreciate that competition in the light weight emtb market. Don’t forget about the price tag. Seems like a hefty pile of dollars you’ve put into your bike. Specialized has gone mental on the pricing. Let’s just hope the competition helps. We’re lucky...

No sarcasm. Even XC riders have droppers these days?

I wouldn’t say “right” parts if you remove the dropper ? -too big of a sacrifice. I would rather ride a hard tail with a dropper than a fs without one!

Did you weigh with your pedals or without? if so, what is the estimated weight of your pedals? Thx :)

1. Which tyres? And tubed or tubeless? Thx Edit; you said Recon and Dissector earlier in the thread. But tubed or tubeless?

For the M20? The M10 comes stock with XT 8120, four piston calipers...

I think it really depends on your riding style and terrain. I have the kenevo and have only a short ride on a SL. The kenevo is for sure a very capable rig, very stable and forgiving. Still, I really miss the nimble handling of my lung bike when riding it on my local trails ( steep, technical...

A bit less, I would say... I would rather have some annoying noise than a motor I cannot thrust. The robustness of the EP8 still needs to be verified though :)

If you find pictures of the two in the same size, they would even be more similar. In the the side by side here the Orbea is L or XL and the SL is S or M. The The L/XL SL has a noticeable kink in the top tube...

Agreed! The carbon versions of SL got a 10-12% increase, the Alu SL stays still.

You are fully entitled to think I am biased, I really don’t mind? I do care about the ROI (quality, feel and fun) of my investment, and everybody knows that Spesh is a bit pricy. I simply got a better deal for the M10 (only 350$ more than the SL alu comp). And that is what I needed to concider...

The LBS/national distributor got my MiO order and the bike should come out of the stock they preordered from Orbea with a estimated delivery February/March. custom colors and burlier tires.

I have both on preorder, but I am canceling the SL comp alu over a Rise M10. I’ve only tested the SL and liked it, but the offering of the Rise was just too damn tempting. For almost the same money (preorder price both) I get full carbon frame over Aluminum , Fox36 Factory grip2 over 34 Rhythm...

https://www.emtbforums.com/community/threads/levo-sl-or-lapierre-ezesty.16230/post-222686 Could this be it?

Maybe something in this teaser?

This bike doesn't look like an eeb. And definetely not like the rallon. Short travel/steep head angle etc

Where did you find the pictures?

So, does this problem require a motor swap? or could it be solved by changing sensors or other electronics? I don't thrust the commitment of my LBS. The bike has been in 5-6 times for different issues, but no motor swap to date.

Is the motor run a common problem? And is it for sure related to the firmware update? I would have guessed it was a sensor issue. When it runs I can go for 20-30 seconds on my 2020 Kenevo without any pedal input (if pointing slightly uphill, it stops when going downhill).